Darrell Green Fan Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Good thread bump. I have no idea why Collins continues to play so much, he was God Awful last year before the injury. It's embarrassing that they allowed that play to work big 3 times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 We made the same mistake with Collins that we did with Jeremiah Trotter - fixating on a dude in the division whose dynamism was rather obviously based on the system he played in, and then being surprised when we can't just plug and play him in another system, as though such dismal results weren't readily foreseeable. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvern Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I don't know how Collins can look at the Daniel Jones TD* scamper around the edge he was coming in from and not acknowledge how that was mainly on him. He was so focussed on getting the sack, that he took an angle too close to the D-lineman, giving containment on the edge and Jones took advantage of that. TD* = because Jones' TD run got called back. I didn't like what I saw of Collins on the field, nor how he handled his interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 If I'm Rivera I send a message and bench Collins. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 The most confusing thing with Collins right now is that we have Curl who proved himself last season, so what is it about Collins that keeps him on the field with his level of play despite having someone more than capable ready to go? Also, it seems like Collins is not being used to his strengths, which I thought was a relic of the past when it come to how this front office targeted free agents? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I think it’s safe to say this will be his last year here if he doesn’t finish strong, he’s been a major disappointment and I was hoping for 2016 Landon Collins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, max21 said: I think it’s safe to say this will be his last year here if he doesn’t finish strong, he’s been a major disappointment and I was hoping for 2016 Landon Collins You know how we pay Payne and Sweat? Let Scherff, Collins and Fuller go 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, NoCalMike said: The most confusing thing with Collins right now is that we have Curl who proved himself last season, so what is it about Collins that keeps him on the field with his level of play despite having someone more than capable ready to go? I would hate the idea that they are playing Collins more than Curl because of the size of Collins' contract. Like they feel obligated to play him to justify the money. Coach Riviera said that the players playing the best will start, regardless of contract numbers. I wouldn't think there would be any reason to doubt him, but now I'm not so sure. Edited September 18, 2021 by SkinsGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, SkinsGuy said: I would hate the idea that they are playing Collins more than Curl because of the size of Collins' contract. Like they feel obligated to play him to justify the money. Coach Riviera said that the players playing the best will start, regardless of contract numbers. I wouldn't think there would be any reason to doubt him, but now I'm not so sure. I don't think its about the contract as much as it is that Collins does have a track record of being an All Pro at one point. Now granted, that was like five years ago, but still, when coaches have a player that has displayed that kind of ability, they feel like they gotta see if they can get it out of him again. But Collins isn't that guy anymore. He wasn't before the injury and he definitely won't be now that he's gonna be a half a step slower after the injury. My guess is he'll end up sitting soon in favor of Curl(not full time but lose more snaps) and then be cut at season's end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) When bad things happen, you can count on Collins to be a big part of the reason why. The Jones RPO TD that wasn't, the blown coverage on the Slayton TD that wasn't. Opposing OCs know that Collins is a liability and they go after him. IMO, just put Curl and MCcain out there and be done with it. Edited September 18, 2021 by SAli457180 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Thing is, late august, there were lts of articles about how Landon Collins was back, how he was healthy and ready to rock n roll in the D. Obviously that was just preseason and I'm not seeing this translating into regular season. It all started with a big hit in Week 2 of the preseason, but besides that, I'm not convinced that "he's back". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, Wildbunny said: Thing is, late august, there were lts of articles about how Landon Collins was back, how he was healthy and ready to rock n roll in the D. Obviously that was just preseason and I'm not seeing this translating into regular season. It all started with a big hit in Week 2 of the preseason, but besides that, I'm not convinced that "he's back". The D as a whole was vastly overhyped in camp, probably because they were dominating our crappy Fitzpatrick-led offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philibusters Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I think he'll be cut this offseason unless they renegotiate his contract. If he made 4 million a year I don't think I would mind his play as much, but we could use that money to resign some of the young guys on the D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvernon Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 18 hours ago, Warhead36 said: If I'm Rivera I send a message and bench Collins. Might happen. Bostic was largely substituted for Davis in the 4th Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Hes definitely been disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooters Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Is Tanard Jackson still available? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CjSuAvE22 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Smooters said: Is Tanard Jackson still available? LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Never liked the signing. So I get you're stuck paying for Collins. I get Collins might look at during practice. What I don't get is how does Landon Collins see the field so much when it doesn't happen during game day. He has a job to do as Safety and he consistently messes up his assignments. Bench him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 On 9/17/2021 at 10:23 PM, NoCalMike said: Also, it seems like Collins is not being used to his strengths, which I thought was a relic of the past when it come to how this front office targeted free agents? This is the key thing here. Collins needs to be essentially used as a linebacker and needs to play around the line of scrimmage. He's terrible in coverage. Used to his strengths, I think he can be pretty good. Yes, he's been disappointing but he's not the only member of the defense that has been. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) Collins is the Jaylon Smith on our defense. He thinks he's great, the coaching staff thinks he's great, then you put on the film and watch him, and holy ****, he's basically responsible for nearly every big play against the defense. The amount of hype he got from the media was ridiculous, anyone with a brain knew it wasn't going to carry over into game days. Edited September 19, 2021 by Burgundy Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) Contract Terms: 6 yrears / $84,000,000 !!!! Another example why most of the FA big money seekers don't live up to their big juicy contracts, and we've got a bad history about that. Edited September 19, 2021 by FrFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Kev Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Premise 1: Rivera said that he will play the best players. Premise 2: Landon Collins is not one of the best players. Conclusion: Landon Collins should not be playing. You can't **** with logic. Landon Collins is the new Josh Norman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I don't think it's contract. I think it's measurables. This offseason, Rivera and co. made a huge push to upgrade the speed of the defense. If I remember correctly, Collins is fast while Kurl is not. Mind you, fast doesn't help if you make mistakes, play out of position, etc because the relative difference between fast and not fast (Let's say 4.5 vs. 4.8 is very slight). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Box safety's are a dime a dozen and yet plenty of teams continue to make the monumental error of overpaying for them. It's odd. I'm with those vying for Curl and McCain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvernon Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, Chump Bailey said: Box safety's are a dime a dozen and yet plenty of teams continue to make the monumental error of overpaying for them. It's odd. I'm with those vying for Curl and McCain. You should be a Jamal Adams type to get paid as a box safety. McCain has had a couple of moments, but otherwise has been solid. I would agree McCain and Curl have to be on the field more. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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