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I have Odunze too in this top 5 group with Cooper and Chase. My fantasy is moving up to get him if he is at the ATL pick. Don’t overthink it with him either - no weaknesses in his game. He is going to light it up next year if he gets to pair with Kirk

I’d be annoyed with that unless we got a 3rd back

If they take JD, a Pearsall or Wilson may make some sense given the built in chemistry they have with JD after having played with him at AZ St. Can’t hurt to give a rookie receiver someone they already know well

Great research. I am kind of tempted to do the same unless there is another first round caliber guy we like who falls. We don't have a pick in the 4th now and, if you look at the mocks, there will almost assuredly be some intriguing talents who will be available in the early to mid 4th. Alternatively, I would also be up for stockpiling picks in 2025 and would take a 3rd next year.

There is a play here where you could use 36 and 40 on non OTs and trade 2 3rds to move back into the second to have 3rd 2nd round pick to work with. It’d be very hard to say no to Kool Aid if he is available at 36 His tape is also apparently very good in the 7 or so games he did play. Very clear All Pro upside here

Given the progress JD made from year 4 to year 5, it is silly to say that there is very little upside left. Cousins and Wilson came to the NFL as 5th year seniors and both obviously continued to make massive leaps in the NFL There is a bit of self fulfilling prophecy by getting off to a faster start with a rookie QB. You are able to attract more talent early on in that rookie’s career. Look at the Texans and the splashes they’ve made with Hunter and Diggs. Talent generally wants to follow talent

There were a month or two ago that they were considering cutting him to get under the cap. They cut Simmons instead to make it happen. Makes me think where there is smoke, there is fire though. It’s a tell to me that they haven’t extended Bolles yet. To me, he is a younger more athletic Leno but there is a lot of value in that, especially pairing that with a rookie QB.

Garrett Bolles? A no brainer to trade for and extend him if the draft comp is a 3rd or lower. Vet tackle market is frozen until after draft

I think we'd probably be looking at both 2nds and a 2nd next year. I'd do it for Odunze. He is just such a clean prospect with such a high ceiling. Again, the nice thing here is we can package both 3rds to move back into the second and grab a tackle there if they don't want to wait.

Agreed which is why I would be very aggressive to move up to get one of the big 3 if one is still there at 8 or 9.

I really think what a lot of you guys who want to move up into the 1st for a tackle are getting wrong is you are assuming instant stud impact for that player. If you guys go back and look at the past few drafts, I think you will be surprised to see the struggles in year 1 and flat out busting of people taken in the first round. On the other hand, we are seeing receivers coming in and performing like studs right away. If you want Jayden or Drake or whoever to get off to a hot start, they are more likely to be helped by Odunze + someone like Donovan Smith as a 1 year fill in vs Fashanu and someone like a Coleman or Corley The other thing here is that, while both OT and WR are deep, the OT position is lacking obvious HOF upside studs and WR has three of those guys. Yes we have a lot of positions to fill but as Cooley and others have pointed out, what has really hurt us is our lack of superstar gamechanging players. I really do think Odunze is that guy - no weaknesses to his game (as Nate Tice says, his weaknesses are that he is more "good" at some things than "elite").

I would make that trade for #9 and I’d be happy with best tackle available at #40 or even #76 because there will be someone there we like like Kiran or Fisher

You can still take OT at #40. If we are looking at a different formulation where both 2nds are needed to move up, you can package 2 3rds to get back into the second to take OT

If Odunze is there at #9 somehow, give me him over any tackle in this draft. I would give up a 2nd and a 2025 first to move up to get him. He is the best WR prospect in the past 10 years sans Harrison Jr, Chase and Cooper…a true HOF upside player who elevates who we take at QB at #2

It’s that they are cheap veteran depth and they understand you generally shouldn’t overpay for slot receivers

Dyami isnt a slot or return guy. This guy plays a different position. This is a loaded slot receiver draft so it makes me think if we do take a receiver, it will be an outside receiver who would bump Dyami out of a job

Solid veteran slot receiver

Also that Gonzales’s brother in law is now a coach here lol

You don’t mess around with left tackle. This is why I was bummed that things didn’t work out with Leno. He would have been a great bridge to a longer term solution

Ultimately, like a lot of Ron’s picks, the though process here was broken. He was never going to truly get the chance to compete for the starting job year 1 with a young QB in Howell. Center is not a position you take a guy Day 2 to have him sit for a year. The position lacks that type of value. I feel bad from Stromberg that he got hurt because he would have had a shot to show what he has after Larsen went down

Exactly my thought, which is why waiting until the 2nd is risky. It wouldn’t surprise me if we move both 2nds to move up to the mid 1st for Fashanu if he is there and he just might be.

In 2021, Adam Peters's 49ers took Aaron Banks, the guy who played guard and earned consensus All American honors, at #48. Know who went next? "Subpar tackle" prospect Sam Cosmi. Who do you think the 9ers would've taken in a do over between the two? I think everyone has to prepare themselves for Wylie being a starter at RT for another season or at least a portion of it. I like the upside of a lot of the guys in the 2nd and 3rd round but most of these guys should probably sit a year.

I believe Kiran and Paul have the longest arms in this draft. Both guys have arms that are 36+ inches. What makes them both interesting is they are also both very good athletes.

Another thing that may hurt Beebe is that many of the tackle prospects in the 2nd and 3rd seem to be bigger athletic types. If I were a GM, my thinking would be to see whether they work out at tackle and, if they don’t, I may view them as having the floor of a guard

The success of Lucas and Nsekhe in this league despite subpar (at best) athleticism has shown me the importance of arm length at the tackle position in the NFL