BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: I haven't listened to it but I could have predicted that. PFF seems schizophrenic on Haskins. He's either an unpolished gem poised to explode or a bust waiting to happen depending on the PFF analyst. Sam Monson (the Irish one) is way more bullish than Steve was but honestly his point was that Haskins isn’t complete garbage and should be mentioned in the same breath as Kyler, Lock, and Jones. It wasn’t really a ringing endorsement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Saw this in a twitter post re. Brees but thought it was worthy of mention here: Yeah, I know that weeks 15 to 17 for Simba only amounted to 6 quarters but even so he finished the season in lofty territory. Who knows 2020 just might turn into a breakout campaign for the stout armed former buckeye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Yes, we have some of those things...but one thing we don't have is the super blockers the 49ers have. Their FB and TE are unbelievably effective. We don't have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 49ers had a powerful offensive identity and a good skill group too. We lack those ingredients. But this season is going to be crazy and the virus will disrupt the regular order of things. We could win the Superbowl. Any team could. The margin of talent is far smaller between NFL teams than most people think and avoiding the virus at the right times and with the right players could be what it takes to win a championship. This is going to be the year where someone good like the Chiefs or Ravens or 49ers ends up picking too five and someone crazy like the Browns or Raiders or Jets wins it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riggo#44 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Did anyone else half expect to see him start punting the ball to himself? Just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I watched Rivera's press conference, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the key for Dwayne is they want to see his footwork-body and eyes go more in synch. He praised Alex Smith for naturally playing that way in practice in a seamless way. Then said it takes younger QBs time to do it the same way. It sort of plays into Bullock's film work which showed Dwayne's struggles at times to throw balls around or past the numbers (close to the side line). Same thing I noticed last year watching cam practices. As I've said on this thread if Dwayne gets that down, sky's the limit, because his accuracy IMO is really good in between the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 From the Phillips camp roundup article, this is great news, just what you want to see, and keeps the positive news train rolling on Haskins for me: Even when the backup quarterbacks were in, Haskins was right behind them, taking the "mental reps" and going through the motions of what he would be doing. You can see how seriously Haskins took this offseason, and its a great sign for Washington fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 some good footage from camp today here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: some good footage from camp today here Go to 2:08. First LB doing that drill is Bostic. He's listed at 245. Next LB is Holcomb, he's listed at 240. Holcomb looks soooo much bigger than Bostic there. Maybe too big? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passepartout Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Chase is a beast there. Good luck to him. Wonder if Dwayne is the QB of the future there?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 We don't do well in this survey, not that it matters but for entertainment purposes, they got it this way: 1. Murray (I agree with that personally) 2. Daniel Jones (I disagree but apparently I think higher of him than most on this thread) 3. Drew Lock (I'd have him at #2) 4. Minschew 5. Haskins (I'd have him at #3) 6. Stidham https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/29679936/nfl-execs-rank-potential-kyler-murray-daniel-jones-other-quarterbacks-2019-draft-class As ESPN talked with more than 50 execs, coaches, scouts and players about the top players in the game, one question came up a few times unprompted from well-respected offensive minds and personnel guys: What about Kyler? That question was more an interjection as I rattled off some of the top names: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson and more. Murray might not be a consensus top-10 quarterback in 2020, but he's coming. And fast. "He's got something to him, man," one veteran NFL quarterback said. "He's got some magic to him." Murray highlights a 2019 quarterback draft class that has a chance to flourish in 2020. Last season was a mixed bag that saw Murray win offensive rookie of the year, but first-round picks Dwayne Haskins Jr. and Daniel Jones struggle on bad teams. Gardner Minshew II showed enough to earn a starting job with a rebuilding Jacksonville Jaguars, while Drew Lock is well-stocked in Denver, and Jarrett Stidham has no promises in New England. Here's where NFL execs rank the Year 2 quarterbacks entering 2020. We are keeping Stidham out of the top five, with an asterisk, because he didn't play significant snaps last year and the arrival of Cam Newton muddles his outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I'm still pounding the coaching drum when it comes to Haskins. This staff--to say nothing of the organization as a whole--was a complete **** show. Jay had no interest in developing Haskins, and it showed in his early starts. Only to be replaced by 3-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust Callahan. Haskins isn't innocent in his early failures, but wow, that staff was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Regardless of how bad his early starts were, Haskins was the only rookie QB that showed me consistent growth each and every week. Every other young QB either plateaued, regressed or cratered in some capacity. That shows me that Haskins was able to review his film figure out what he was doing wrong and make necessary adjustments. The other Rookies either lacked that ability, or didn’t have it to the same extent. Once there was some film on these young players for NFL defensive minds to chew on, most of these guys failed to deliver. Haskins rose where others fell. I can not ask much more of my young QB. If that trend continues, not only will he be our future under center, he will be one of the better QBs in the league. I would expect all of these young signal callers to improve in year two, but once there is some new tape to go over, Haskins is the only one who has proven he can overcome defensive adjustments on the NFL level. A zombie that has proven his ability to catch a guy is a valuable thing compared to a zombie that you can hope will catch a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Thought this was a good answer from Rivera as it relates to accuracy for young QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh8686 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Yea, I thought that was an interesting insight from Ron. They are evaluating on a tiered approach, with good decision making being primary and then chained movement being the next step in growth. It makes sense and most of us who have followed Dwayne's progress have realized that College allowed him to play with an over-reliance on his arm strength that built bad habits in conflict with the chained movement that Ron is looking for. Rewiring those neural networks so everything is moving in unison, especially when under stress and duress is a big step for Dwayne. It's also what Saahdiq Charles is having to learn with marrying up his hand placement with his footwork, albeit for a different position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mistertim Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, Fresh8686 said: Yea, I thought that was an interesting insight from Ron. They are evaluating on a tiered approach, with good decision making being primary and then chained movement being the next step in growth. It makes sense and most of us who have followed Dwayne's progress have realized that College allowed him to play with an over-reliance on his arm strength that built bad habits in conflict with the chained movement that Ron is looking for. Rewiring those neural networks so everything is moving in unison, especially when under stress and duress is a big step for Dwayne. It's also what Saahdiq Charles is having to learn with marrying up his hand placement with his footwork, albeit for a different position. Yeah I think it's smart to look at it that way. Almost every single QB is going to have some lag between his reads and his mechanics as he transitions between the college and NFL games. Expecting it to not be an issue would be a fool's errand. Rivera has experience with young QBs so he knows that it's just something that comes with the territory and that has to be re-learned and drilled in with repetition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 A camp tweet. Sounds like we may have an issue at RT. Not good with our young QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 People are severely sleeping on Montez Sweat. He'll be our sack leader this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said: People are severely sleeping on Montez Sweat. He'll be our sack leader this year. I may have been one of those people. I hope to be wrong. He does look good this far. Moses struggles to deal with speed. Both of our DE’s are custom built to give him issues. Chase Young is going to have a lot of 3 sack days on the Morgan Moses caliber/style OT’s in the league. I want to see Sweat vs Saahdiq Charles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Haskins is going to make great use of all that newly found mobility and fitness. By next year they are gonna be calling him a running QB lol. But we will know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, DCranon21 said: A camp tweet. Sounds like we may have an issue at RT. Not good with our young QB. The Skins have zero issue at RT. Moses can be relied upon to hold down the right side without help. His value to the team is greatly undervalued around these parts. I get it on some level if a person were to say he’s paid $1-3 million too much(currently paid top 5-7 RT money). He’s comparable to Ryan Kerrigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Have to feel for Dwayne. We ranked 32nd in the @NFL WR group rankings too, and I have to imagine we'd rank 32nd in TEs and in the bottom 3rd in OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Yeah Moses isn't amazing but he's a solid player who isn't super expensive. I don't think we should be surprised that a guy like Sweat beat him. As others have mentioned, I think some people are underestimating Sweat and forgetting what a ludicrous athlete he is. He isn't as bendy or fluid as Chase but he is generally on the same level in terms of raw athleticism IMO. 6'6 260 lb guys who run 4.41 40s and 1.50 10 yard splits do not grow on trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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