Skinsinparadise

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    Starting QB 2019???

    Grier has to be the oddest qb evaluation just going through reports that I can recall. If you look at studies and stats most of which I posted in the draft thread, Grier has the makings of a star let alone just a starting Qb in the NFL. Most draft geeks seems to dislike him and think he will be a bust. One NFL reporter said that there is a major difference between what NFL teams think of him (more do like him) versus mock drafter types. He is the one Qb that I like (though see him as boom or bust) that I feel like I have to apologize for that to some because the ones who dont like him tend to be vehement about it. But am cool drafting Grier. And I suspect you might have to use a 2nd rounder judging by some reports. If I judged him by the numerous mock drafters that dont like Grier, you'd think we can get the dude in the 6th round. For me it doesnt have to be Grier after the first round. I also like Finlay and to a lesser extent Rypien. I am ok with Stidham if he is in the 3rd or 4th but dont like him as much. Edit: I know am preaching to the choir considering you being stronger pro Grier than me. My thought is if Jay is taking Grier out to dinner, Redskins are at least intrigued by the dude.
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    2019 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    I didn't watch much of Lock's pro day. I noticed Jeremiah and McShay were impressed. With McShay saying he looked as good and maybe even better than Murray and Haskins. And I've noticed some here weren't impressed with it. For me I don't put much stock one way or another on pro days. To me Drew Lock is a wild card. Boom-bust. But I like his attributes enough to be willing to go on that ride if he falls to 15 even though that wouldn't be my top choice. But if he falls there and they love him, no complaints from me. Rosen to me is even more boom-bust than Lock. They are different type of players. But both are not ultra accurate IMO. Both are mistake prone IMO. I like Lock's arm strength and ability to throw on the move better than Rosen. And I like Rosen's footwork and accuracy as to intermediate throws in between the numbers better than Lock. My preference is they dont take any qb in round 1 or trade a first round pick. I think we like get a surprise fall at 15 similar to 2017 and am jazzed about that but for that to happen they need to stay put. As for Haskins, I just started watching him. I didn't love his game against Washington St. I liked his game against Michigan. And boy did that dude have some stud receivers who brought some serious YAC. But I got to watch more. One thing Lock and Rosen had in common in college was a poor supporting cast. E. Hall was decent for Lock and he had a decent TE but otherwise his receivers didn't seem hot. And that team was overwhelmed by some of the big boy teams at the SEC. Rosen's supporting cast was even worse.
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    Starting QB 2019???

    I didn't see Jay as a Sushi guy
  4. So I think they don't lose a comp pick for this one unlike what one web site purported
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    2019 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    I am ok with Grier outside of the first round. but wonder if the tweet below means something in the long run. Will see. PFF loves Grier. From a pure metric stand point, Grier puts up good number in just about every study I've seen.
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    2019 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    Agree, he's been my guy at 15 for months now. I can see some saying he doesn't fill a need if that's what they are driven by in part. But to me he fills one big time because of their reliance on the duo runs which heavily depend on TE blocking. And this team also telegraphs arguably too much whether they are running or passing based on the TEs on the field. As Cooley pointed out Sprinkle in = run. Also if this is a win now season I think there one chance is to do it on the ground - similar to the beginning of last year. Other guys that fill that type of purpose but at LG: Cody Ford, Jonah Williams. I like Devin White. Wonder if he falls though but as I've said on this thread many times the math adds up that someone unexpected will fall. That's another reason why I don't want to trade up in this draft unless its super cheap. Burns is one of my guys too. And agree speed rushers if they are good can hit the ground running no pun intended. Teams put out false information on purpose so I don't know what to make of draft rumors especially this far out. But if I take them seriously plenty of buzz that the Redskins are willing to trade up for a QB. I love Murray. Not sure what to make of Haskins, yet and I have some concerns. I like Drew Lock more than most but see some bust potential. If they love Lock and he drops to 15. I'd take him. If they trade up and just give up a third, I'd do it. I don't want to give up the moon for Haskins. With Murray, I don't want to give up a ton to get him either even though I love the player. I worry about his durability. If it were me, I'd skip QB in the first (unless they love Lock and he drops to their pick) and go for the next tier where they don't sacrifice a 1st. Within that group, Ryan Finley might be my favorite the more I watch him from that next group. I'd also take a flier on Grier or Rypien, maybe even Stidham.
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    2019 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    Just caught Doug on Riggins show. He flat out said what Hoffman said he heard -- they want guys who can play well immediately and contribute to the team right away. So if this is a save our jobs draft -- the big hints to me is they are drafting towards needs and prefer guys that have some built in polish to them where they hit the ground running.
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    Starting QB 2019???

    unless they are absolutely in love with the dude, yuck as for trading all that capital if it went down
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    2019 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    if anyone wants to participate in the board's mock draft, it can be fun , there are some slots open on it. On another note, this dude is hit and miss typically but for entertainment purposes
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    Starting QB 2019???

    I agree about that specific semantic on the Redskins trade but the same exact point then would apply to the other trades we are doing apples to apples comparisons with. So if the exchange #1 doesn't count as part of the soup -- and we just count the additional two #1s. Then the same principle would apply to the other trades where in their case instead of giving up two #1 picks then they only gave up one #1. Anyway you cut it the Redskins gave up one more #1 pick than any other trade I can think of at least in recent times. Maybe so but right now I've heard that trade being talked about by national reporters as what teams consider overdoing it as for the number of first rounders. But yeah you never know it could happen again. I was cool with it at the time. But now I wouldn't like a trade like that at least not for anyone in this draft.
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    2019 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    Gruden alluded to wanting a big WR. Multiple beat guys said they want speed. The biggest marriage I can think of when it comes to both dynamics would be DK Metcalf. But the only receivers thus far we've heard they like is N'Keal Harry and Marquise Brown. Parris Campbell IMO would fit the profile some. He's not big but isn't small either. He's got some serious speed.
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    Starting QB 2019???

    Depends on how much you value first rounders compared to other picks. The thing about the RG3 trade that some have said is unlikely to ever happen again is trading THREE first rounders. Keep in mind, the 2012 pick was the 4th pick in the draft. The 2013 pick they gave up was the 8th pick in the draft. The 2014 pick ended up being the 2nd pick in the draft. 1st rounders are highly valued for obvious reasons because your hit rate is better than later rounds. That goes double for top 5, top 10 picks in the draft. It's that third 1st rounder that some (and I agree with that) which makes that haul intense. IMO a third and 4th isn't the equivalent of a 1st let alone what the last first ended up being which was the 2nd pick in the draft.
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    Starting QB 2019???

    Am not even a big Rosen guy, I actually think he could be a bust yet I'd take him over trading up because I don't want to burn multiple picks to trade up. This team has too many needs and there is no can't miss prospect at QB IMO. I like Murray a lot and I think he can be a star. However, I don't think the Cards trade their pick. And Murray's durability makes him a question mark. I've just started watching Haskins in the last couple of days, I haven't landed on an opinion yet but I've seen enough to be convinced he's not a sure thing. I like Drew Lock more than most do but he still comes off to me as a potential bust. My only disclaimer to that point is if the FO is in love with any QB then go get that guy. It's not easy to find a franchise QB. So I am not among the subscribers of skip a QB until the supporting cast is in place. IMO get a franchise QB when you can -- they are harder to find than any other position. But do I trust this FO if they fell in love with a QB? Don't think so. I might trust Jay but am guessing its not his call.
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    Starting QB 2019???

    Dumping Brad Johnson for Jeff George Wanting Brady Quinn but being talked out of it from their scouts Overruling his personnel guys for Patrick Ramsey 3rd for Brunell 2nd and a 3rd for McNabb 3 first rounders and a 2nd for RG3 Kirk contract 3rd and Fuller for Alex Are you saying the odds are stacked against us as for their next move at QB?
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    2018 ES GMs Mock Draft is complete!

    LOL. Been their once before about 15 years back. Saw the 2 big churches around Hope St.. Did the Ferry-Mersey. Hit Chester. Did a Beatles tour and an Anfield tour. Cavern. Grapes. Albert Dock. This time am coming mostly to see North Wales-Conwy and catch Liverpool-Tottenham. I wanted to get the legendary Anfield experience up close -- heard it almost matches the Fedex experience?
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    The Bruce Allen/GM Thread

    OK though not sure what the point is in relation to my post since I didn't put a timeline on when they addressed it. I said they finally had enough and addressed it. And i even said maybe the Redskins have reached that point too about some players. Will see. Not sure though what we are debating. I gather its you saying the Cowboys are just as guilty as the Redskins in relying on injured players? I don't know. It doesn't seem to be the same amount of players based on this discussion but I haven't dived into their roster -- maybe later today if I am bored I'll do it. But I'll run with your point for argument sake. And even if that's the case, I'd still trade the Cowboys roster for ours in two seconds. Jerry for his many faults has had a better run than Dan. As for Gettleman's mishaps. Sure, I've pounded him as much as anyone. But for me regardless it doesn't make me feel one whit better about Bruce. I am not saying you are saying otherwise -- just saying for me there is nothing going on with other teams that makes me feel good about Bruce. I am right now as intense about wanting him gone as I was years back about Vinny.
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    2019 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    On Haskins. Sheehan says (he could be wrong) he heard Jay doesn't care for him. Although Laconfora says the Redskins brass are intrigued by Haskins. I was listening to Mike Miller's podcast today where he said he heard the Giants like Haskins but he wasn't sure if they like him so much that they trade up for him. Typically, the Redskins play checkers while the better teams play chess (my A or B theory below). But if I am going to give them some credit for being wily than a few theories: A. if they don't love Haskins and think the Giants do love him -- at least act like they want Haskins to force the Giants to perhaps use their two first round picks to trade up B. If there is a shot that the Cards don't take Murray and or keep playing coy about him and Rosen -- then send them a message (if they want Rosen or to trade up for Murray) that they love someone else so they won't stick around forever and let the Cards have all the leverage. The Cards could always find another dancing partner but presume they want the Redskins as part of the bidding. C. They genuinely love Haskins and Sheehan's report was wrong about Jay. D. Jay might not love Haskins but others in the FO (Dan?) are in love with the guy.
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    2018 ES GMs Mock Draft is complete!

    Yes as to the Dolphins.
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    The Bruce Allen/GM Thread

    OK but that's not a lot. All teams have examples. But I admit I haven't thought through the whole Cowboys roster so if they got other examples then sure I guess Dallas is doing the same. But the issue to me isn't that they have injury problems but how much do you continue to rely on them and or double down by acquiring more players like that? For example Sean Lee is chronically hurt but still he's been a key player for them yet they spent their top pick in the last draft on a MLB. So clearly they've gotten tired of relying on him and now he's actually more of a back up than anything. Maybe the Redskins have reached similar conclusions about some players. Will see. It's football so every team is going to draft and acquire guys with some injury history. Casserly's point was that for the Redskins more than most have a lot of their key players with serious injury questions. Sean Lee is a good example for Dallas. Skip Bayless would cry about how bad their defense is whenever Lee missed games. Dallas' evidently acted on that point last off season and drafted a MLB high in the draft.
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    Starting QB 2019???

    if anyone has some concerns the brain trust is on top of this one. Dan Steinberg‏Verified account @dcsportsbog FollowingFollowing @dcsportsbog More
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    Starting QB 2019???

    I'd presume a 2nd rounder and either next year's first or next years 2nd? The odd thing about Bruce is for a dude that likes to haggle for every penny in contract negotiations -- he IMO is an easy mark when it comes to trades where he is too generous. I've heard a couple of people talk about this recently which is the RG3 trade will likely never be replicated in that the Redskins gave too much up and no one expects another team to ever offer a ransom like that again. We IMO overpaid for J. Brown, D. McNabb, Alex Smith. I am actually scared what Bruce would be willing to give up to go to #3 because he always seems to be on the wrong end of these deals. Personally, I wouldn't trade up for anyone unless its cheap. Going to #3 I doubt will be cheap. The one thing I'll say in defense of Bruce is it could be that Dan puts the bug in his ear and tells him to go get such and such player and Bruce does whatever it takes to win the bidding war because he doesn't want to let Dan down. I've heard in multiple podcasts from different draft geeks and reporters over the years -- don't look at what they gave up for RG3 as a template for future draft trades at least in terms of giving up three #1 picks let alone to just go up 4 spots. The most aggressive run up I think would be the Rams going all the way to #1 from 15. Not as bad as RG3 but close to it. But they climbed a long way and went all the way to #1. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000652822/article/la-rams-trade-up-to-acquire-no-1-pick-from-titans The terms are as follows: Tennessee gets: Rams' first-round pick (2016), two second-round picks (2016), a third-round pick (2016), a first-round pick (2017) and another third-round pick (2017). Rams get: Titans' first-overall pick (2016), a fourth-round pick (2016) and a sixth-round pick (2016).
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    The Bruce Allen/GM Thread

    Agree. And like I said, I could deal with the boring part myself. But I think its taking a toll on the fan base. It would be one thing if Bruce and Dan were just cool guys to root for and team imbued class. But that's not the case. Can you get away with boring coupled with winning? Yep. But boring and mediocrity with a dose of sleaze -- not a good combination IMO if they are trying to market to more causal fans. We complain here but we stuck by the team in spite of it all. The more casual fans not so much. I am a bigger Cousins fan than most. But still I am talking great QB play -- Brees, Rogers, Mahomes types. As you know, I am not as down on Jay as some. But I am not in love with the dude either. I do think this FO makes it difficult to bring out his best or for that matter bring out the best out of ANY HC. I am never married to any HC. What I want is a real FO with a normal structure. I give you that there is nothing sexy about Jay from a fan interest stand point. As for the rest of this. My take of what has hurt the franchise over time is a combination of this: A. Mishandling FA. B. Dan's splashes have come and gone and people are burnt out and don't trust it anymore C. Dan's determination to have people run the FO who are NFL laughingstocks. D. Dan's douche behavior. Bruce's douche behavior E. How Scot and Kirk were handled F. Years of doing it differently than most other teams without the results to show that their way is better G. They've drafted better of late but they haven't found the Beckhams, Antonio Brown, Von Miller types and FA has been mostly ho hum = lack of star power H. Most of the national media has come to the conclusion that this is a yawn inducing team and not worth much discussion I. The way this team typically gets national notice is via their dysfunction. J. The stadium stinks. K. The NFL is a QB driven league and we don't have a good one. And this problem has plagued the organization for most of Dan's tenure I flat out in a post the other day said its ALL Dan's making. By sympathy I mean if I were in his shoes I wouldn't ignore the predicament. He's dug himself into this hole. And as much as Dan seems to rely and depend on Bruce -- I think that dude has hurt his brand in a deeper way than even Vinny did. And I've explained how in other posts. I'd be ok with that.
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    The Bruce Allen/GM Thread

    I am gathering you are thinking Jaylon Smith? They did pay off. Trying to think of other examples with Dallas. Just about every team takes some chances. But some of the Redskins key players have a tendency to get hurt and arguably more so than most teams. It's not that they were all acquired with injury history but some of them were and they got a bunch of guys who tend to get hurt: Chris Thompson, Jordan Reed, Trent, Lauvao (that experiment I gather is finally over), Nicholson. I was cool with signing Richardson last year but in retrospect I was wrong on that one considering the dude was rarely healthy in Seattle. We just got Reuben Foster who tends to get banged up and his injury concerns. Sean Dion Hamilton ditto. Colt. Moreau came off of a serious pec injury. Dunbar is now coming off of an injury where there is some concern. Quinn couldn't stay healthy last year. Doctson has had his issues with his heel. Some of this is from their drafting, some of it is just via bad luck. But I'll double down on the same thing I said last off season which was I am not counting on players coming off of injury to just have an injury free season just because the law of averages is such that you can't have bad luck two years in a row like that. I thought it could happen and said so last off season. Dallas' thing seems to be taking chances on players with drug issues. And they tend to get burned by it though. Dallas has drafted though very well IMO -- Jerry supposedly has let his son and McClay do their thing in recent years.
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    Starting QB 2019???