Skinsinparadise

A dude who I took in the board's mock draft, strong hands, posession WR

Yep I've talked about him on another thread on the same topic, good pedigree for a backup

I was very harsh on the O line before the season commenced last year. I posted a ton on it. I don't feel the same way now. I think the O line will be so so. The same argument ironically people came back at me with last year -- the defenders of the O line then would argue with me its so so. I disagreed with them, then. I thought it would be bad. But this time I am betting on so so. RT: not a fan of Wylie then, not a fan of him now. But I do expect him to be better with a more run heavy version of the offense. He's a better run blocker and should be better in pass sets this year considering they don't plan to throw 1000 times a game. RG: Cosmi has evolved into a great RG over the season. So we got Cosmi again but IMO a better more evolved version of him. C. Biadaz should be a big time improvement. Gates sucked. Larsen wasn't that good either. The center position is big and we've gone from maybe having the worst center play to among the better center play. LG: Allegreti or Coleman. The Chiefs had very good guards and Allegretti couldn't crack that lineup so he was their swing player. I see him sort of like when we had Schweitzer who was a high end backup elsewhere and played well mostly when he was here. Allegretti has been a good pass blocker thoughout his career -- mostly 70s-80s grades from PFF. Gave up 1 sack in his career. I think he can be good. He's replacing S. Charles who sucked his whole career and Ron for some reason bet on as the dude last year. C. Paul also sucked. LG should be a distinct improvement. And Coleman IMO has the potential to be a very high end guard if they play him there. I've talked about that a lot recently on the draft thread. LT: Lucas or TBD. Lucas in pass protect has been good throughout most of his career. Heck when he had to deal with the SF pass rush last year, he did well. "Meh" at run blocking. But if the idea is not to get your QB killed, he's fine. Does Coleman evolve into a LT? Maybe. Also I think they ultimately sign one off the wire.

As for Coleman as I mentioned I like him better at guard than tackle. But I get them trying tackle in camp. That's part of the point of having a camp in the first place, you experiement and see. He was a highly graded tackle from PFF. He was mostly fine in the 2 games I now watched of him at tackle. Can be sloppy with his hands, and struggles IMO with lateral movement. But he wan't a hot mess at the spot at least not in those games. And if he has a high grade for the season from PFF, I seriously doubt he was a hot mess for that season and was likely much closer to good than bad. PFF has access to all the games, we don't. But again with the 2nd tier type tackles to me they were all works in progress. Can they fine tune Coleman at tackle? Maybe? I don't know. The criticism I've made and saw some agreement on a scouting report on Coleman is his lateral ability. He's a move forward-north to south type of guy more from my watching than east to west hence my concern at tackle. But he's a good enough athlete -- speed, power, agility that maybe that east-west ability can be developed. I am not an O line coach so you got me if they can or can't. Will see. But I really dig him as a potential high end guard. Not just a guy at guard but a really good one. His hands and anchor IMO are strong and am far from on an island on this, I believe he has the biggest hands in this class or close enough, I can post 50 posts like the ones below. And his not just a good athlete for the spot but he's historically good for the spot -- freak doesn't sum it up. He was on Feldman's freak list. Massive upper body, massive strong hands, long arms, freak athlete. For the early 3rd round, I think that's a very good gamble from Peters. Again, this isn't Peters cherry picking the best of the best in the top 10. The 3rd round is worse than a wildcard round, more players fail than succeed from that round. Bet on upside.

Coleman blocking on an island, heck this is every rep in the first 3 minutes of the game. He's #77. Held his own easily. On the first one he almost pulls off blocking two guys himself, his assignment and a blitzer. For example, Kingsley when I watched him I thought was a hot mess at times, not always but at times. Others liked him here before the draft, touting his raw ability and potential. I get it. That's how I felt about Paul. Same idea here. Coleman is a freak, too. Coleman with a better RAS thatn Kinglsey and Paul, elite numbers. You got me if Coleman is a LT, I've talked about his strengths and weaknesses from my point of view. And from my point of view I think his skills translate VERY well to guard -- a high end guard. Tackle feels more of a wildcard. But I am not the definitive word on this. Will see how he looks in camp.

Nabers is the dummy who couldn't keep his mouth shut and oddly felt compelled to tell people. Might be an early sign as some have said during the process that Nabers is a bit of a personality and not always in a good way. You can tell in the interview that Daniels was reluctant to talk about it but he's too willing in these interviews to please the interviewer, he will learn not to be that level of a pleaser in the future I assume. Only good thing to me about the whole thing is while I accede Nabers is a big time talent. I've also heard he is a bit of a headcase. Him setting this issue afire is maybe an early sign that the Giants have a player that isn't the easiest dude to deal with.

I don't rule out Coleman at LT but as I said on my initial watching he strikes me as a guard. But not in the context of just a guy kind of guard. I think he can be a high end guard. But who knows? As a pass protector, Lucas, his pass blocking grade has been in the 70s or even the 80s for most of his career from PFF that's a good grade. "meh" as a run blocker. But not a disaster if he's the LT. My point is if the choice is between Coleman being just an OK LT over a very good LG. I'd take the LG if its purely as to this season if he's a much better guard than tackle. I think Lucas is already an OK LT. I do think though they likely sign someone else. Bakhtiari maybe if he's healthy?

Definitely could be. I am not counting on it but its possible. When I think of incrediblly durable QBs I think of Kirk and Eli and neither are mountains of muscle. And Kirk is on the thin side.

Yeah Rivera as we know would work the draft with specific need postions per round. He was going to take Jamin because heck he wanted a LB. Dotson or some Wr was a given because he wanted a WR. On and on and on. This FO clearly went BPA. The idea that their BPA would fit ours would be too wild, I'd think. It's not going to happen. So either we trust it or we don't. I admit though their BPA is close enough to mine that there was nothing that made me pause. Heck they even took UDFAs that I touted previously and their 5th rounder was a dude I took on the board's mock draft and the 7th rounder was guy i pushed for on day 3. Sinnott was my TE #2. Sainstril was one of my favs for months. So for me it was all plenty close enough. But even it weren't, I'd give it a chance. Will see. Back to Coleman. 66% give or take of 3rd rounders fail. This isn't dissecting a top 10 pick. I like to bet on traits especially later in the draft. Look at Coleman versus a third rounder we took years ago on that front. I'll watch some more Coleman. Maybe my mind changes after watching more than one game. But on that one game, I get it. Doesn't feel crazy. And clearly scouts (judging by McGinn) do not see it as crazy, ditto a bunch of mock draft types like Brugler -- and tha dude Brandon Thon who some of the mock draft types push as a good O line draft evaulator among others.

Could happen that way for sure. In the bashing of Jayden from some on the QB thread there was a lot of posts that he holds onto the ball forever hence you need this rockstar O line. I think though IMHO that stance was mixing two points and just riding on those two points even though there is more to it, more variables. That is, Daniels would hold onto the ball on some reps especially when he wanted to go deep to Thomas. LSU had a great O line. Both points are true. So in a vaccum, Daniels holds on to the ball for a long time and relied on a great O line. Sounds really ominious that way. Butt.... But reality is if you watch him on numerous plays, he has a quick release when the idea is to go to the first level as opposed to deep. He actually does pretty well with trash in his face as to throwing the ball. Like I said he had a better PFF score than Maye under pressure. One of the best scores versus the blitz. On average he still had to get rid of the ball on average 3 seconds or less. I agree that Maye was more used to playing under pressure but I don't think he per se thrived under it. Typically QBs who can run actually don't need the same level of pass blocking. So the idea that Daniels needs even more of it feels a reach to me. However, I do like a strong O line for any QB especially a young one. But I am not in this mode that we got the young QB who needs that all star O line versus the lucky Patriots or Vikings who have young QBs who don't need the same level of an O line. All three of those young QB IMO have wheels. Daniels of course with the best wheels of the three. I don't think one QB needs the better O line over the other 2. And if I was forced to pick which QB might get away with less protection it would be Daniels.