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Welp, that's that. I'm going to drink now. You all have a good evening.

Well I didn't want to be so wasted already that I didn't remember. Then I'd wake up tomorrow morning with some misguided hope that we hadn't selected him. Then I'd have to go online and find out and experience the disappointment all over. Just rip the band-aid off now, and then start with the booze.

Can we please just get the Daniels pick over with so I can go start drinking?

No.

I believe this is what we would call an oxymoron.

Don't really care. I'll just go drink some beers and do something else.

Unfortunately I'm bracing myself for it being Daniels. Then I probably won't say much. Just shrug, write "sigh" and then log off.

Of course people who think he's not a good prospect couldn't possibly think that for real reasons. We all must just be gaslighting ourselves.

Talk about a 'who's who" of elite QBs

The way he's hyped you'd think Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson had a kid in a three way with Tom Brady.

Given our luck with the Giants, if they manage to get Maye I predict about a 93% chance that he becomes a top 5 QB for the next 10-15 years and will regularly beat us down twice every season during that time period.

Yeah, possibly, but I think that also may have more to do with sample size than anything else. Way more QBs tend to stay in or around the pocket than ones that will be running 20 yards down the field, so it would make more sense for there to be more overall injuries in the pocket, just based on how many QBs tend to stay there.

Can someone who says Maye has "slow processing" please explain exactly why you think so and give examples? It seems like something people are just sort of repeating, but processing also one of the hardest things to judge because we don't know the play call, we don't know the progression, we don't know exactly what the defense did post snap most of the time, and we don't know whether the OL completely whiffed on their assignments. That goes for any prospect, not just Maye. Ludicrous processing speed was Brady's superpower. If it was so easy to recognize, he would have been taken much sooner. I don't think it's even possible to know a college prospect's true processing ability until after you see him take some NFL snaps.

Someone else posted something along these lines as well (just can't quite remember who) but Daniels just looks much different than Maye when he gets hit. With Maye it tends to be more of a defender dragging him to the ground. With Daniels it tends to be more a defender hitting him and Daniels flying a bit. Maybe it's a center of gravity thing? Maybe a combination of center of gravity, Jayden's slight frame, and his propensity for splaying out vs curling up when he gets hit. Either way, it's concerning.

Vick was also one of the most elusive dudes I've ever seen. He regularly juked guys out of their shoes so he was actually pretty decent at not taking a lot of big hits.

I dunno. Wasn't Vick something like 6'0 215? He was pretty solid.

IMO this should be updated to say "slim QBs who also run a lot" Cousins is pretty slim, but he's a pure pocket passer.

I don't think Murry is indicative of Kingsbury liking running or "dual threat" QBs. He got to Arizona as HC, had the #1 overall pick, had a QB on his roster (Rosen) who was godawful, the draft wasn't great with QB but Kyler was the best of the bunch. So KK figured he could mold his system around with Kyler could do.

Or get himself broken.

I think it's going to be just as anxiety inducing. Because every time he gets hit hard we're all going to be holding our breath and waiting to see if he gets up or not.

I mean, there are plenty of people on Twitter who are saying they're 100% positive it will be Daniels. Why not someone for Maye?

If either of you two lunatics is ever made a mod, I'll quit this place. (Yes, I realize I just gave Jumbo a really easy way to finally get rid of me without going through the hassle of bans)

So now you're doing the "he doesn't always do that" straw man. He doesn't always do it as soon as there's pressure. But he does a lot. Which is the point. I'm sorry that statistic means nothing to you. But if you take a look at some of the guys who were nearly as low in that category and went to the NFL...well let's just say it's not very good company. And yes, often the results were good in college against inferior athletes. But the NFL is different and I don't think his running style is going to translate well. Especially with how thin he is and the nutso way he takes hits. In the NFL he's inevitably going to get decleated multiple times, and it's probably only matter of time until the result is an injury. As far as WRs who can get open, it's not a matter of getting open, it's a matter of the difference between NFL open and college open. He's not going to have Nabers amd Thomas getting several yards of separation over and over. And this is where his low amount of anticipation throws on tape could rear its head. The majority of the time, even on anticipation routes like comebacks and outs, he didn't throw the ball until he saw his guy open. He got away with it in college, especially since his receivers were getting so much separation. But that won't be the case in the NFL. Tons of those throws would have been picks in the pros.

It was almost the exact same inconsistencies that caused Allen and Herbert to fall out of the top 3. Someone is gonna get a steal.