Malapropismic Depository Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 All Jeremy Sprinkle does, is catch game-deciding TD's. And that's all he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The one game I had on the schedule as a definite loss was GB, and that didn't happen. Faith restored. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said: That's a side benefit, everyone you're describing mostly wants a house cleaning in the FO and coaching staff, describing it otherwise is disingenuous imo There's ZERO guarantee any "housecleaning" takes place even if the Skins lose out. So the mentality of wanting and rooting for losses in the hopes of maybe possibly having something happen is abso-stinkin-lutely a loser's mentality. At least wanting to lose out for a higher draft pick, the higher pick is indeed guaranteed. Want a better philosophy to root for? That the Skins win AND Allen gets shown the door. And, yes, it's possible...and worth cheering for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, CRobi21 said: But he was a quality head coach who had consistently competitive teams...built by a competent GM... Agreed on all points. But that doesnt change your original question. Was the goal to make the playoffs first? No question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said: That's a side benefit, everyone you're describing mostly wants a house cleaning in the FO and coaching staff, describing it otherwise is disingenuous imo You might, but that's not the typical history of this board in regards to reasons for intentionally losing. Promise you if this was a better QB draft, the suck for whoever arguments would be in damn near every thread again, think most of us have just finally had our fill of huge swathes of the franchise again. A lot of upsets, blowouts, and **** we saw coming. If you were at this one, would you have cheered or sneered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, spjunkies said: @Califan007 I can't quote because of this wonderful board, but this is a reply to your last post. A higher draft pick is not the primary reason I want to lose. I want to drop these meaningless games because I think it would increase the odds of Bruce getting tossed on his ear and installing someone who has a clue in his position. Bruce has got to go even if we win the super bowl. He is the reason we went from 6-3 to 6-7 and he is the reason we owe a lot of money to someone who might not be able to play again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Califan007 said: There's ZERO guarantee any "housecleaning" takes place even if the Skins lose out. So the mentality of wanting and rooting for losses in the hopes of maybe possibly having something happen is abso-stinkin-lutely a loser's mentality. At least wanting to lose out for a higher draft pick, the higher pick is indeed guaranteed. Want a better philosophy to root for? That the Skins win AND Allen gets shown the door. And, yes, it's possible...and worth cheering for. I don't care about all that. I know we disagree already. I only engaged in order to point out that simply labeling that group as people who "want a higher draft pick" was disingenuous because whether you agree or not, it's clear the main reason behind it is wanting Allen and Gruden fired, and you're minimizing it. imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I understand wanting losses in order to ditch Allen and Gruden. If that happens I want it to be because we just don’t have the horses or the coaching brainpower. I DO NOT want it to be because the players give up. They’ve reached a good place attitude-wise. I want them to keep that going into next year. They’re going to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Lost in all this, is we just gained a game on Dallas today, as every other NFC East team was shutout today, and possibly a 3rd one tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Califan007 said: There's ZERO guarantee any "housecleaning" takes place even if the Skins lose out. So the mentality of wanting and rooting for losses in the hopes of maybe possibly having something happen is abso-stinkin-lutely a loser's mentality. At least wanting to lose out for a higher draft pick, the higher pick is indeed guaranteed. Want a better philosophy to root for? That the Skins win AND Allen gets shown the door. And, yes, it's possible...and worth cheering for. I can't like this enough, you're my hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hangman- C_Hanburger Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, CRobi21 said: Why is simply "making the playoffs" or "winning the division" the constant goal around here?! Talk about a loser mentality. I wasn't around for the Super Bowl days. Was making the playoffs the goal then too, and the trophies were just icing on the cake? I remember when the goal was to JUST BEAT the Cowboys...the rest of the season was entertainment. George Allen teams were loved if the ONLY beat the Boys. BUT I will caveat that with IF THEY PLAYED HARD and didn't embarrass the franchise. My big complaint with Gruden is that his teams are up and down on effort..it takes a humiliating loss to generate the attitude that should be consistent every week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, CRobi21 said: Draft pick position > meaningless wins. But I'm more worried about getting rid of the GM and head coach. Losing would make it more obvious to our incompetent owner that he needs to clean house and start over. Draft pick position holds little value if you have a quality GM. It's holds almost no value if you have a mediocre-at-best GM. And I've never heard of a "winning culture" resulting from double-digit losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs 1991 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 To the the diehard/true Redskins believers who continued on believing, major congrats. WE deserved the hell out of this; and to the officiating that kept on hating.... I mean officiating, #WashingtonRedskinsLivesMatter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newera Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The boys benefited heavily with three home games in a row. Went on road and got waxed by a better than you realize colts team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonialWBSkinsFan Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, wilco_holland said: Yes they did it again. Give me a small chance of hope that we might get to the playoffs. No realistic but it is possible. Keeping Kirk out of playoffs football would be bitter sweet. Bitter sweet?!? Keeping “Kurt” out of the paloffs would be UNBELIEVABLY sweet, that would make my year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 31 minutes ago, Hogs 1991 said: To the the diehard/true Redskins believers who continued on believing, major congrats. WE deserved the hell out of this; and to the officiating that kept on hating.... I mean officiating, #WashingtonRedskinsLivesMatter I just don't understand the dick measuring contests between fans as to who is a diehard/true fan and who isn't. Just because some of us might disagree on certain things about this team doesn't mean one fan is better than the other. All of us spend too much time on this site, arguing about things such as who should be the starting QB to which way Morgan Moses leans when he lets a fart fly on the bench. If you're posting on this site you're a diehard fan. Some of us want to lose out, fire everyone and start over. Some want us to win out, get a playoff berth, fates of Jay and Bruce be damned. One viewpoint doesn't make someone better than someone else. We all want what we think is best for this team, we might just disagree on what that is. 21 minutes ago, Newera said: The boys benefited heavily with three home games in a row. Went on road and got waxed by a better than you realize colts team. Colts are killing it right now. Luck is going to end up with 40+ touchdowns, most likely. An amazing comeback by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Don't worry, double digit losses are coming in 2019 and Snyder won't be able to keep Bruce and Jay then. 2020 and a Top 5 draft pick and half of Alex's contract off the books; Dan will hire the next savior, only to have to fire them 4-5 years later. The never-ending cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: which way Morgan Moses leans when he lets a fart fly on the bench. If you don’t think he leans to the left, well then i dont Know what to say other than you obviously don’t watch much football. Anyone who thinks it’s to the right is just kidding themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: If you don’t think he leans to the left, well then i dont Know what to say other than you obviously don’t watch much football. Anyone who thinks it’s to the right is just kidding themselves. He's on the right side of the line for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, spjunkies said: @Califan007 I can't quote because of this wonderful board, but this is a reply to your last post. A higher draft pick is not the primary reason I want to lose. I want to drop these meaningless games because I think it would increase the odds of Bruce getting tossed on his ear and installing someone who has a clue in his position. If I told ya the tooth fairy don't exist would you quit rooting for the Redskins to lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I'll worry about the draft in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerm Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Califan007 said: Draft pick position holds little value if you have a quality GM. It's holds almost no value if you have a mediocre-at-best GM. And I've never heard of a "winning culture" resulting from double-digit losses. I agree. Draft pick position can be a positive, but not always. when I see votes for biggest 1st round busts this year, Vita Vea usually leads the vote. He may well have been the Redskins pick if they were choosing higher in the last draft. The Skins had to go for Payne once he was the best DT left. Kind of like how Cowboys fans were so excited to be able to pick Roy Williams, instead of Ed Reed later in the draft to fill the need at safety. Enjoy the wins, and still find good players. That is the goal in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I think the other argument is that the higher draft pick really counts for the first round. How many great players are available after the first round every draft? If you draft 17 versus 5, sure you miss a "blue chipper" but there are always guys we are drooling over in rounds 2, 3, 4, etc. So, that means that while we will miss on the next can't miss bust (or super star) We still have a chance to draft the next bust or superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs828791 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Newera said: The boys benefited heavily with three home games in a row. Went on road and got waxed by a better than you realize colts team. I dont know why more hasnt been made of this, but rest and preparation is everything in the NFL. 1- Thanksgiving day...cowpokes play at home 2- Cowboys play again on Thurs with full week practice at home Saints have to travel after playing Sunday 3- Eagles play Monday Night get 6 days off and have to play at Dallas, Cowpokes get 10 days. End of the day NFL is a fixed, no owner or coach complains because they are all making sooo much money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Califan007 said: There's ZERO guarantee any "housecleaning" takes place even if the Skins lose out. So the mentality of wanting and rooting for losses in the hopes of maybe possibly having something happen is abso-stinkin-lutely a loser's mentality. At least wanting to lose out for a higher draft pick, the higher pick is indeed guaranteed. Want a better philosophy to root for? That the Skins win AND Allen gets shown the door. And, yes, it's possible...and worth cheering for. There is something to this. Enough have said Bruce could stay here regardless of what happens down the stretch. My thought is either you win out or lose out -- nothing to gain by splitting the difference. Having said that, there is nothing you can do about that one way or another so since they won, hope they win out looks like Vegas doesn't take our chances that seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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