Morneblade Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, MartinC said: He played hurt quite a bit of time - and so yes he was. Healthy he is a below average starter but serviceable. The issue is he can't stay healthy. Healthy he is bad. Injuried he's horrible. And he is always injured, so he's going to be horrible, when he can actually play. So I still say there were better options out there. Does that mean that OL depth league wide is good? No. It just means that ours is likely worse, and I don't think we really tired to fix anything. I think Jay is very happy with our OL. And I think Jay is wrong when it comes to LG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 41 minutes ago, Morneblade said: Healthy he is bad. Injuried he's horrible. And he is always injured, so he's going to be horrible, when he can actually play. So I still say there were better options out there. Does that mean that OL depth league wide is good? No. It just means that ours is likely worse, and I don't think we really tired to fix anything. I think Jay is very happy with our OL. And I think Jay is wrong when it comes to LG. I disagree he is flat bad when healthy - but I do agree that's a moot point because he is hurt so often. I don't think Jay is happy with our interior O'Line depth and I'm pretty sure he would love to upgrade LG on the starting line. I recall reading or hearing the team were looking at options from outside the current roster for depth leading up to the cuts at guard and maybe centre. But pickings are REALLY slim on O'Line depth. That's a position we will have to look at in the draft next year (long odds on a guard being let go in free agency with tread on his tires and if one is its going to cost more than we can afford with Schreff, Smith and Crowder to try to extend) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, MartinC said: I disagree he is flat bad when healthy - but I do agree that' a moot point because he is hurt so often. I don't think Jay is happy with our interior O'Line depth and I'm pretty sure he would love to upgrade LG on the starting line. I recall reading or hearing the team were looking at options from outside the current roster for depth leading up to the cuts at guard and maybe centre. But picking are REALLY slim on O'Line depth. That's a position we will have to look at in the draft next year (long odds on a guard being let go in free agency with tread on his tires and if one is its going to cost more than we can afford with Schreff, Smith and Crowder to try to extend) I don't think they are barren however. I've already mentioned one guy that I see as an upgrade, and I'll add another. Boehm released After adding two offensive linemen off the waiver wire, the Cardinals decided they didn’t have room for Evan Boehm or Will Holden. Boehm, who played 31 of 32 games over the last two years and started eight at guard in 2017, was initially drafted as a center in 2016. It appeared he would get a chance to back up Mason Cole after starting center A.Q. Shipley tore his ACL at the beginning of August. Instead, the Cardinals stuck with Daniel Munyer, who will apparently back up Cole. http://arizonasports.com/story/1652639/arizona-cardinals-notable-cuts-evan-boehm-greg-little-brice-butler/ Swing G-C that Gurden/Callahan like. Young (25 years old) Hasnt been snagged yet (I didnt see anything) 2017 PFF grade of 61.8 (#42 G) That rating is 17 spots higher than Lauvao, not that PFF is everything. But still..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 The Cardinals have one of the worst O'Lines in football. If he could not make their 53 I have trouble seeing him as an upgrade. PFF rating are all over the place - take them with a large pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 hours ago, JSSkinz said: After watching Hard Knocks there isn't anything that makes me jealous of the Browns, in fact, the coaching staff is dysfunctional and its a matter of time before Mayfield gets scraped off the turf. We'll see. No doubt, hue jackson comes across as a bit of a dummy. I agree their coaching leaves a lot to be desired, but they have the rigjt people in the FO to get it right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 22 hours ago, zoony said: Well if we are cutting guys to make room for their cut guys, I mean... And yes, we should be jealous of the browns. They have actual football people ruining their organization. We have Bozo the clown and his cronies. Fixed it for ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I think Kyle Smith is a star in the making, despite all the other putzes in the FO. I just hope he doesn't slip away like Sean McVay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 This roster has a weird feel to it, IMO. A ton of youth, but an older qb and rb, (and a lot of injury concerns). An oline that could be quite good, but very little depth behind it (which is scary considering last year). The makings of a very good front 7, but a lot of question marks behind them in the secondary. And a crazy young and unproven receiving corp. I see a lot of potential, but a lot could easily go wrong too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboy757 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, skinny21 said: This roster has a weird feel to it, IMO. A ton of youth, but an older qb and rb, (and a lot of injury concerns). An oline that could be quite good, but very little depth behind it (which is scary considering last year). The makings of a very good front 7, but a lot of question marks behind them in the secondary. And a crazy young and unproven receiving corp. I see a lot of potential, but a lot could easily go wrong too... I agree. I'm hoping that AP and the running game keeps the team in games for the first 8 and then CT, Reed, and the young D-Line close out the season to push the team into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Riggo-toni said: I think Kyle Smith is a star in the making, despite all the other putzes in the FO. I just hope he doesn't slip away like Sean McVay. Kyle Smith as GM and McVay has HC. What could have been.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, MartinC said: The Cardinals have one of the worst O'Lines in football. If he could not make their 53 I have trouble seeing him as an upgrade. PFF rating are all over the place - take them with a large pinch of salt. I mentioned that about PFF. The Cards went hard at improving their OL in the offseason, and it's a much improved unit over last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Kyle Smith as GM and McVay has HC. What could have been.... and Torrian Gray as DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: and Torrian Gray as DC Would have been Wade Phillips. He's his godfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 VP Doug Williams, GM Kyle Smith, DC TBD, OC TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Ryan Anderson started the 4th game and played a lot. I don’t know much about his play. Was excited when we got him but seems to sort of just play rather than make plays. Anyone able to give a better breakdown? He has an explosive burst and seems to be strong, but at the same time looks lost out there and hesitant. Him playing so much against the Ravens makes me think coaches still aren’t sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Regarding Martrell Spaights, he was cut and still remains unsigned. Skins obviously didn’t put him on the practice squad either. So was he not eligible or did they just no longer want to be in the Spaight business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 So we kept 5 running backs? Is that normal in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 A couple of moves today... not clear who was cut (or if Marshall was IR'd). Also a practice squad move: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobert Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 14 hours ago, dyst said: Regarding Martrell Spaights, he was cut and still remains unsigned. Skins obviously didn’t put him on the practice squad either. So was he not eligible or did they just no longer want to be in the Spaight business? Really curious about this myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Spaight blows but he looks good in preseason and when we have a losing record and a bunch of hurt starters, so fans like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan212689 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Maybe they IR’d Harris to bring the LB in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Jericho said: A couple of moves today... not clear who was cut (or if Marshall was IR'd). Also a practice squad move: Only move I am aware of by updating BHRBN is that we signed jp holz To the PS. Nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 IRed Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan212689 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Want a good CT25 back up. Well the Saints just released Boston Scott. He’s better than BMarshall and KBibbs. This is someone that I’d look into right away. He’d probably push CT a bit. Or at least give him a chance to fully heal He’s really good. Hail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 LB Josh Keyes .... we will be his 7th NFL team in 3 years? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Keyes_(American_football) How is that possible? Seems he bounced around from PS to PS .. but we signed him to our 53? Couldnt we have gotten a gy like this pre PS and coach him up? Couldnt we have signed him to our PS instead of the 53? Probably way to many question for the 53rd guy on our roster who will probably not take a snap prior to being released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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