MisterPinstripe

What does that mean though? If hes graded as a little better than Haskisn you drop Haskins AND Young and draft Tua? Or you draft Tua only if he is graded way higher than Haskins? I would think he would have to be graded a good bit higher than Haskins, or Haskins to be poorly graded, to pass on an elite pass rusher. If the Redskins think Haskins is a franchise QB, even if they grade Tua a little higher, you defintely keep him and get an elite pass rusher as well. The 49ers with their elite DL would have won the Super Bowl if they had just a decent QB. Jimmy Garap had 3 games this year with more than 300 yards passing and 6 games with 200 or fewer. You want to make the 49ers have to use their QB. I would rather have an elite pass rush and a top 15 QB than a top 3 QB and trash DL.

No, not if you graded Haskins highly or if Tua may not recover from his injury well enough. If the Redskins think Haskins is a franchise guy you always draft Young.

So why would we take on that large contract for an older player when we thing Young can be in that tier? AND the bears have no first round pick this year. Not saying you want this, just commenting on the speculation.

Maybe planning a three way trade where we get the 3rd and Lions get the 5th.

Are we also forgetting that Sweat came on towards the end of the year after they let him rush more? 7 official sacks but in reality 8 the refs just screwed him out of one in the last few games. Not bad for a rookie and he should improve with an actual competent DC.

Actually, again, unlike you I'm not so entrenched in a position to insist that it is always factual. Also, that not being a good look doesn't mean I have changed my position on preferring him and thinking he's a good coach. You irritate me so much more than anyone in the history of this board, I'm honestly not completely sure why. I'm just going to stop responding as I'm sure not contributing much to the discussion responding to you. Yeah, I still really like him and would prefer him. Makes more sense if it's more the fact that he doesn't get to choose his staff and they all have a connection to the HC instead of him. Also in context, Scott Turner had a 3rd string QB for his games so hopefully he can produce better than he did those 4 games.

That's definitely not a good look. Too good to interview a second time with a new head coach?

I preferred keeping KOC but I think Ill be just fine, Im happy with whatever Rivera wants to do. Unlike you. You complained about KOCs 1 year of experience and how the offense performed. So now you are okay with Scott Turner who has less experience and a worse performing offense?

Not with the bevy of players they got from our draft picks. Don't think they had a single player on the team from that trade, at least not starting. That definitely wasn't impacted by the trade with us.

I say that in the sense that if Chase Young wasn't in the draft, I would take the normal QB draft pick haul and be happy to drop back a few spots.

Sure, I personally really want to draft Young so I'm likely biased. Hard to imagine what could happen, I can't think of another draft with this kind of situation. Typically it's always the generational QB everyone is striving to pick at 1, Young throws a wrench into the normal thought process.

Sure, but the context of the draft is abnormal. Young isn't just a good DE prospect, he's considered a dominant generational player. With that, the assumption would be if we trade out of 2nd the Lions will take Young. So you would have to trade the premium to get the QB as normal, PLUS the added surcharge to make it worth it for us to lose the chance to draft Young. I just don't see it fathomable that any team would give us the needed value.

Everyone knows we won’t take Tua and really want Young. I think the Lions make a whole lot more sense for teams to try to trade with to get Tua. We will want a boatload to basically not take Young.

I’m glad we didn’t sign him for what he got, but definitely agree it was a big mistake to not trade him for something while we had his rights.

And we had a 6-3 record until he got hurt. I never said when we got him that he would out throw Kirk, I always said his not turning the ball over and putting our defense in a bad position would put us in better positions. And it worked out exactly that way, proved my point. I think Kirk is a good QB who can put up numbers but chokes in the big games, the stats back that assertion up as well.