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  1. Was watching Top Chef last night and a dude is in front of the judges talking about editing his food and says “I twerked”. The room went dead still, everyone staring at him in confusion, and then he says “I mean I tweaked!”. Damn autocorrect indeed, lol
  2. I love puns, so I was scrambling to find some way to contribute. Decided I’d play it straight and just share my opinion: I’ve always felt egg puns aren’t all they’re cracked up to be, especially if you have to try too hard. Then again, as a dad of 3, I’m a sucker for low brow puns (ones meant to go over easy enough for a kid to get them). Shell I go on? (That’s actually a rhetorical question - pretty sure I’ve already done irreparable harm to my street cred, so I’m not going to whisk it)
  3. I’ve moved Turner to the back burner as well, not necessarily writing him off, but no expecting anything either. The one thing I’ll say is that while Thomas was a vet (and a good dude), I think Ertz likely brings a bit more knowledge of the position, so its possible that leadership/mentorship, plus Turner going into his 3rd year improves his chances of breaking out a bit. I’m not holding my breath of course. And those same things apply to Rogers as well, who has the added benefit of a bit more athleticism than Turner. All of that said, I can’t see this staff being content with this group. The good news is that Ertz/Bates are a decent 1/2 in terms of their roles. Gotta be difficult going into a 3rd offense in 3 years for Bates/Turner/Rogers, but hopefully the transition will be a little smoother for them as they’ve seen/learned more from their time in the league to date.
  4. I gotta say, as a ‘neutral observer’, it’s pretty wild reading the Daniels stuff. Like, I’m not sure how he’s even draftable given the things I’ve read on here - he can’t protect himself running, he can’t throw on the run, he can’t throw over the middle, he can’t throw with anticipation, he needs receivers that can get wide open, he’s gonna get destroyed if he gets hit, he has low football IQ when running, and he can’t slide… how is the league so clueless about this guy? For me, his frame is skinny and it’s going to remain that way. He just doesn’t have the build to add enough weight to remove fears of him getting hurt, even if he can somehow add 5 or 10 pounds of muscle (which is debatable). It is what it is. With that said, I have trouble with the conclusion that he must have added 15-20 pounds of water weight (no peeing!). Why didn’t he weigh at the combine then? Who knows, maybe he weighed himself at 208 before arriving and decided he’d hold off until his pro day. When his pro day weight is the exact same as his listed playing weight, I’m not sure how we arrive at “Occam’s razor says he drank 20 pounds of water just before a throwing session”… Now if he starts projectile vomiting in the middle of his throwing session, I might change my tune. Why didn’t he run the 40 then? Who knows, maybe he didn’t want to risk pulling a hammy. Maybe he knew teams have the in-season GPS info and put more weight (no pun intended) on that. Maybe he didn’t want to spend time training for the 40 knowing spending the time on actual qb stuff was more important.
  5. Yeah, I mean on the surface, considering Henry’s a relative unknown and Fowler/Ferrell are on 1 year deals, I could see hitting the position twice (and maximizing the chance of landing a stud)… but we have other needs/priorities and the draft has depth at other positions we’ll wanna take advantage of. Not too worried about wr getting picked clean by our second 3rd round pick though… I think for me, the 3rd is ideal for receiver, mainly because I’d be more worried about the drop off at OT, DE, corner and even safety compared to wr. Certainly not ruling out that we take a receiver in the 2nd of course. Totally agree that bypassing receiver day 2 would be like bypassing TE last year. Speaking of which, I can’t shake the hunch we land a TE early-middle of the 3rd, even though the supply is so limited that seems a long shot. My guess(es): We trade back from either 36 or 40 (getting a 3rd round comp pick or a 4th or swapping picks using one of our 5ths) 2nd - OT and corner (possibly DE or S) 3rd - TE, wr, and one of the two spots we didn’t draft in the 2nd Pick we gain in trade - double up on one of OT/DE/corner/wr 5th - linebacker and/or running back Kind of expect (whether or not we trade back in the 2nd) we make another trade later - whether using our 5th to move up or perhaps trading back with a 3rd. Maybe land a ‘25 pick, like a 4th.
  6. I think we’re in a position to afford the time to develop Maye with a new GM and coaching staff (ie they’ll have at least a couple years before their seats might start to heat up), and the ability to improve our record, even if our qb play isn’t great, due to an improved roster/coaching staff. Even if we don’t see improvement in our record (or much of one), it’ll be fairly understandable given we’re basically fielding an overhauled roster and implementing new schemes on both sides of the ball. In other words, “blame” will be shared all around vs being leveled mostly at Maye. I expect the Vikings to come up to 3 for Daniels (though I’m not as certain that we take Maye as some). Note - I’m not saying Daniels is inherently much more pro ready than Maye (though I see the argument). Note 2 - I’m pretty sure my 13 year old has bigger legs than Daniels, and he’s like 5’2 (and not a ‘stout’ 5’2 either). I’m probably a lot less concerned about Daniels’ frame than some on here, but it is still scary how thin he is… and putting on some weight ain’t changing that thought for me.
  7. Yeah, I wonder about Forrest. Feel like he can play FS, but don’t think it’s his ideal spot. He was my favorite defender in ‘22. If we land a high end FS type, Forrest might be reduced to solely a depth role. I think Forbes playing off man, with us blitzing (with quality blitzers) could open up more turnover possibilities for him, which could increase his value - whether that’s for us, or in terms of a trade. That’s assuming he even sees the field of course. If they’re going purely press man, he may well not. I also think having one cohesive style of play is going to help these guys a fair bit. The compounded issues (IMO) of communication problems due to coaching issues and multiple coverage styles, along with lacking a pass rush made life impossible for the defense as a whole, but especially the secondary. On a related note, @RandyHolt might finally get what he’s been looking for from a DC
  8. I’m not sure I’d call it an “odd management choice” vs just not having realistic options, but to your point, it seems like it’s going to be tough and/or require some luck to adequately address the position. And to your earlier point, odds are a 2nd round tackle isn’t going to solve the position down the road, let alone this year. Given the depth of this class though, I could see this being a bit of an outlier year compared with the info you shared. We’ll see. In terms of immediate, quality help, as far as I can tell it’s either trading for Bolles (or someone else), though I’m not sure if Denver wants to put themselves where we are now (though I get the cap angle for them) or trading up. I’m guessing they’re more likely to take a 2nd rounder, perhaps another in the 3rd, and see how the competition plays out. Essentially living with (most likely) subpar OT play as the young guys(s) develop, and then reexamine the position next year. Not ideal obviously (unless we get crazy lucky), but it’s also not all about this year of course. 🤷‍♂️
  9. Man, they’ve really revamped our interior. Allegretti/Deiter/Stromberg fighting for LG (as well as Cosmi’s backup), and along with Biadacz, the latter 2 give us 3 legit center options. Glad they re-signed Lucas. Now hopefully they can add one or two more tackles in the draft…
  10. I think @Warhead36 is right that wr could match that, and then (IMO) maybe safety as well. I tend to believe we’ll land an OT in the 2nd almost no matter what though. They may not be BPA exactly, but with need/positional importance (generally and in terms of protecting our rookie qb), I expect that’s where we land. As I said earlier, I could see a trade back before hitting OT. Trade back from 36 and if all of their tackles are still there at 40, they could pull the trigger, or wait for where ever they traded back to. Adding another 3rd or 4th would be pretty big given the depth of the draft class and our plethora of needs (and having traded our 4th away - that’s a long wait until the 5th!). JMO of course. Two points: Given the depth of this wr class, I think they could hold off until round 3 and still land a quality receiver, whereas I think we’ll see a bigger drop off in dbs (there should be quality slot corners in the 3rd, but that’s the one spot I feel ok) and DEs. That’s my impression anyway. With that said, I have trouble believing they go defense twice in the 2nd and if a quality receiver falls to us… I think they’ll absolutely be motivated to add a receiver, but I also think our top 3 (Terry/Jahan/Jamison) are pretty good. Ideally we land a flanker to compete with Dotson (and add depth) though. Wouldn’t be surprised if we double dip here (2nd/3rd and again in the 5th). On the flip side, our corners are all big question marks and Butler is penciled in at FS (yikes). DE we can get by with what we have, but we could certainly use a stud pass rusher there and Ferrell/Fowler are on 1 year deals. (Lol that I somehow managed to both agree and disagree with both of you. Contrarians assemble!)
  11. The consensus mock (NFLdraftdatabase.com) has Kingsley at 45, Amegadjie at 55 and Rosengarten at 62. No Paul, no Fisher in first two rounds. Depending on fit and the FO’s view of these guys, I could see targeting an OT after trading back from one of our 2nds. They also have 4 safeties in the 2nd after 40 (including Nubin), and 6 corners in the 2nd from 36 (including us taking TJ Tampa at 36). On one hand, that suggests pretty good odds we land a db in the 2nd, but on the other hand, I have to assume some quality dbs will slip to the 3rd… They have us taking Tampa at 36 and Trice at 40. Kneeland and Braswell are the other 2nd round DEs.
  12. Brits - can we have cookies for snack time? What if we call them “biscuits”? (sounds like I’m being defensive, but you’re absolutely spot on regarding Americans, and I’m well aware “biscuits” came first. And BTW, my in-laws have a sign in their kitchen - “If you lick the frosting off a cupcake, it’s just a muffin”. And lastly, a pretty random PSA - nutella has more sugar than cake frosting)
  13. This makes sense of course. Though I’m tempted to say that anyone playing college qb has to have a baseline of processing speed. To be clear though, I was suggesting more so the potential for it to rate processing speed, not (necessarily) as much in terms of improving processing speed. The development angle I mentioned was more about getting (VR) reps, particularly w/in the offense and against various defenses.
  14. Yeah, the process is the big thing for me. I generally agree, though I’d push back a little on the needing live game reps to improve. In some ways, I think that’s absolutely the case (Ie some things only really improve with live play). However, Howell, for example, seemingly made big strides his first year on his footwork/mechanics. For me personally, I wouldn’t mind them riding the bench for a bit just to 1) get a chance to see a vet perform, and 2) give them a bit more time to get comfortable in the offense. I’d think it also gives the rookie more time regarding some of the smaller things - to build chemistry and relationships, get used to the speed of the game, etc. Essentially, the goal would be reducing/minimizing the number of items on their plate, at least to some extent. I tend to believe it also gives the team more time to get used to the system, including giving the oline more time to gel/develop. Almost certainly a moot point though because, as you say, they’re going to start day 1. I will say that the above isn’t my default preference, it depends on your evaluation of the guy once you get him in-house. I’d also put a lot of weight on coaches crafting a plan around the qb, vs (what I view as) the more traditional ‘throw a lot at them and see what they can handle’ tendency. Of course, in my scenario you then have to give the vet plenty of reps (offseason and in-season), which can limit your rookie’s snaps (ergo, their development)… one of the main reasons I’m a fan of uptempo practices and the large uptick in available reps that comes with that practice style.
  15. I found the VR stuff in that Daniels article pretty fascinating. Seems like a tool that could have pretty huge implications in terms of development. Heck, just the ability to use that for guys that aren’t getting many reps - backups or young 3rd stringers - could be a game changer. The potential to use it for measuring processing speed, or the ability to identify defenses has to be pretty attractive as well, though I presume it’ll take some time/work to get it to that point?
  16. I’m mostly with you here, though I think we land a tackle in the 2nd and then again later. I made a post in the FA thread (for some reason) about how I’d guess things shake out. I think it might have been misconstrued as going off need, but my focus was actually on where I think the strengths of the positions lay (with some need thrown in of course). Value-wise (JMO of course): WR - aside from Ladd and maybe Pearsall, I don’t love the value vs other positions (including the class depth at other positions) in the 2nd - plenty of interesting receivers should still be around in the 3rd/4th. TE - either after a trade back in the 2nd, or in the 3rd? Corner - 2nd? Slot corner looks promising in the 3rd, but outside corner is far more pressing IMO, and I’m thinking there’s a sizeable drop off after round 2. Not too sure about fit though… DE - from 2nd-3rd? OL - tackle in the 2nd, though this could be 36, 40, or later in the 2nd after a trade back, then maybe another olineman (tackle or G/T is my guess) in round 3? Linebacker, S and DT are the wildcards for me, and this is where my (ingrained?) factoring of need gets in the way, because a part of me says to just look at the 5th and beyond and then we can try again next year.
  17. I can honestly say that the only things I know about Daniels are from this thread. I do feel like if I were ridiculously fast, I’d feel a lot safer moving forward - knowing I’m not likely to be caught from behind - versus pulling up on a scramble to throw. Ideally though, you’re comfortable enough throwing on the move (not having to stop/plant). If that’s either not a tool or not a well developed tool in his toolbox, that’s a bit concerning to me.
  18. Setting aside that I have no idea about scheme fit for these prospects (or hardly anything about them really lol), I could see Morgan being the cutoff for them. If he’s gone, I think they might go corner (or possibly wr/edge), since there’s a cluster of tackles that would be options at 40 - Kiran, Suamataia, Paul, Rosengarten - and if they’re still there at 40, maybe we swing a trade back. I expect we land a TE in that mid 2nd (after a trade back) to mid 3rd range, even though it looks like only 3 guys fit there - Sanders/Sinnot/Stover. I also expect one of our 3rds to go toward (a second) olineman. A tackle that falls, Goncalves or maybe someone a guard like Haynes or Puni. Very good chance we draft a receiver on day 2 IMO. Framing it a different way, IMO there’s a… Good chance we trade back from 36 or 40 (small chance we trade back into the 1st instead) Very good chance we draft a tackle in the 2nd Good chance we draft a corner in the 2nd Small chance we draft a receiver in the 2nd, good chance we draft one in the 3rd Decent to good chance we draft a TE on day 2 Decent chance we draft a 2nd olineman on day 2 Decent chance we draft an edge on day 2 Small chance we draft a S or linebacker on day 2 Since my verbiage is a bit nebulous, I’d say small chance = less than 25%, decent = 25-50, good = 50-75, and very good = 75+%, roughly. Agreed. My hope is our pro personnel scouts help point them in this direction, especially for a guy like Forrest, maybe St Juste? Perhaps promising is that they re-signed Obada who didn’t play last year, and although he was with Quinn in Atlanta, that was only for a couple/few weeks. Not sure who else this idea might apply to though…?
  19. Looking at how our FA might affect our draft, I’m thinking linebacker is less likely before our late 3rd, DE is less likely in round 2, Center is probably out (before the 7th anyway) unless its a G/C, and rb is less likely other than a late round flyer (guess I wouldn’t rule out using one of our two 5th rounders though). Options are obviously thin at tackle at this point, so setting that aside, the two other potential FA signings I could see them making prior to the draft are corner and safety… though I could just as easily see waiting to see what the draft brings before (potentially) addressing those spots. I think I’m now leaning away from trading up for a tackle. Too many positions I’d love to address day 2 that line up with the draft talent - T, corner, WR, TE, Edge, G, S, ILB and a 2nd tackle. Of course the prospect of landing a good tackle for 5 years is quite attractive…
  20. Sort of building on this, my guess is that the next two years with Seattle will be like we envisioned his past two years would be - a year to get comfortable in the system and with the squad, and then get a chance to start in year two. I think the main handicap he faced here was Ron changing offenses/coordinators going into his 2nd year, though you have to imagine a shaky oline and truly terrible defense messed with Howell quite a bit. Going back to internet prognosticators/analysts, I think there are generally speaking 4 facets that matter - 1) analyzing stats/data points, 2) analyzing film, 3) learning/figuring out all of the more intangible stuff, and 4) making predictions. These guys generally don’t have much insight to the intangibles, and that, combined with the inherent difficulty in “figuring out” the qb spot, makes their predictions mostly worthless (unless its a prediction as to who goes where, particularly once reports start emerging, but even that is fraught). The benefit these types provide though, to us fans, is offering us more info to synthesize with what we’ve seen on tape or in the stats. In other words, I don’t think it makes sense to just push them into buckets like “they don’t know what they’re talking about” or “they’ve gotten plenty wrong” (though there are some lazy, clueless blowhards out there obviously). To be fair though, all of these guys are in it for the clicks. It’s incumbent on us to parse who’s putting out content they (the “experts”) believe in - the ones that are putting the work in vs the guys just shooting for a juicy tagline. JMO obviously.
  21. I hear you. Well, on one hand, you could argue they have upgraded 2 spots - C and LG - and frankly, that could be the case even if one doesn’t see Allegretti as starting caliber (Charles and Paul were pretty bad). Of course, they also (depending on how you view it) downgraded LT, lol. To be fair, both tackle spots were always going to be a bit difficult to upgrade via FA with high demand, low supply, and particularly with an eye toward responsible spending. Still a lot of remaining time/ways to address oline including FA, trades, the draft (including trading up), post draft roster cuts. Here’s hoping we feel a lot better about the line by the start of the season!
  22. Not that it really matters, but I presume that was in reference to Howell last year, not in college?
  23. The pressure to sack info makes me curious about avg yards lost on sacks for these guys… Also makes me wonder about usage of check downs and hot throws - two things that are obviously crucial in the NFL, but seem to me to be more wrapped into philosophy/attitude in the college ranks. Whether that’s the system, coaching style, or qb attitude - including holding out for the big play or maybe believing your running is more dangerous than a check down. Seems to me that “take what the defense gives you” aspect is a tough transition for a lot of college qbs. To be clear though, I don’t watch much college ball, so I’m basically making **** up based on my impressions.
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