Voice_of_Reason

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    The Bruce Allen/GM Thread

    And I’m saying I don’t even think Brees/Mahloms/Rodgers fixes our problems. Brees has a solid coach in Peyton, and was throwing for 5k Yards and 30 TDs and they still went 7-9 in back to back seasons because the defensive side of the ball was atrocious. Rodgers couldn’t get McCarthy out of his own way, and they haven’t won anything of note in years. Ben Rothlisburger (and a million weapons) can’t overcome the fact Tomlin is “meh.” If Rodgers landed here tomorrow, the results might be a bit better, because Rodgers has more talent in just his left testicle than McCoy and Keenum combined in their whole bodies, but with the current roster, FO and coaching staff IN TOTAL (not just HC) it wouldn’t be much better than 8-8. Bring in Brady and Bellichick (and Pats staff) and leave the rest of the roster the same? 11-5 would be in play. Bellichick would find a way to make Allen/Payne and the defense a top 10 unit. Something I don’t have a lot of faith in Manusky to do. And Brady and company could make enough of the offense to win a lot more games.
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    The Bruce Allen/GM Thread

    They don't have the worst product in the NFL. They have the most average product in the NFL, and possibly the most boring product in the NFL. Even the teams that really stunk last year like the Cardinals and Giants have SOME intrigue. The Cards had just selected Rosen, the Giants had Beckham and Barkley, the whole Eli debate, etc. The 'Skins are just just so average. 9-7, 8-7-1, 7-9, 7-9. The only shocking thing about them is they haven't actually achieved 8-8 itself yet. They keep flirting with it but miss it by an inch. Both the player acquisition approach, generally the players on the team, and the coaching is all average. Not great, not awful. Just "meh." I will say I like the philosophy of just getting guys from Alabama, because you're counting on Saban to have scouted and developed them, and that's at least something. Not that every Alabama player will work out, however you are almost certainly getting NFL talent and well developed players. The fact I like the philosophy is more of an indictment of the FO than a complement though. And I'm not even sure if lucking into a franchise QB, with this FO and coaching staff would make things that much better. Cousins was playing at a HIGH level in 2015, especially at the end, and they still went 9-7 and lost in the first round of the playoffs. They had weapons, a QB playing well, and enough talent to compete on defense, and the OC/play caller was an up and coming genius. However, the decisions they made on coaching and players on defense doomed the team. If Drew Brees had been QBing the 2015 Redskins, would they have been a SB team? Maybe. But don't forget, the Saints and Packers have failed to win anything of note with 2 of the top 3 QBs in the league because of bad coaching decisions and some stupid personnel moves. McCarthy got fired over it, and the Saints went 7-9 like 3 years in a row while Brees was throwing for 5k yards and 30 TDs. (Ok, the Saints were ROBBED with a mask and a gun in the NFC Championship game last year. I get that) Rivers in San Diego is another example. Borderline HOF player. Ben in Pittsburgh. 2 SBs, (1 he lucked into), and the most explosive skill position players in the league, and they still couldn't get it done. Why? The only real example of a franchise QB consistently winning is Brady. What's the difference? Bellichick. Also, I'd remind folks in 2006, the Patriots tried to go with a cast of nobodies at WR, and they came up just short with a drop by that bug-eyed WR in the end zone in the AFC Championship game against the Colts. The next year they went out and got Moss and basically committed to not do that again. They've had skill position players which fit what they do So while a franchise QB would be good, and would help, it won't cover up all of the other ills. It won't cover up huge holes in the roster and average to below average coaching across the board. You're 100% right, the casual fan is basically gone, and all that remains are the die-hard fans clinging to the past and hoping something changes, or people too stupid to know better. And it's not all Bruce/Jay. And it's not even all Dan. It started in 1993, and we haven't had a consistent relevant franchise since then. Not only is the product on the field bad, but the stadium sucks (not Dan's fault) to add insult to injury. There's no reason to go to the games. Almost no fans believe in Bruce and what he's doing, they see Doug as a mouthpiece (rightfully or wrongfully), and the best most can say about the coaching staff is "it could be worse, it could be Zorn or Spurrier." That's not a ringing endorsement, and not a lot to sell hope on. Hope leads to interest. When there is no hope, there's no interest. Dan/Bruce/Jay and the rest of the gang just don't provide any hope things will get better. The reason they don't move the needle is because they've won 1 playoff game since 1992, and that playoff game was now 14 years ago. They also have no players which stand out as "the best" at their position who have any personality. National folks respect Jay for keeping the team together through a lot of injuries the last 2 years. But Jay doesn't create a lot of interest. Alex Smith is about the most boring "good" starting QB in the league, and now he's gone. McCoy and Keenum are "meh." The best players on defense are Allen and Payne, and they don't talk much. There's nothing to generate interest. Here's where we differ. I don't sympathize with his predicament because it's one of his own making through a variety of stupid hiring decisions. Dan has two major flaws: he trusts the wrong people to give him good advice, and he isn't willing to do things which make him uncomfortable. Marty made him uncomfortable. Marty was shown the door. Vinny and Bruce give him bad advice. But he was comfortable with both of them, and reluctant to change. Now he's in a situation, of his own making, where he's trusting Bruce to do everything, and he doesn't know what plan B is. So even if he wanted to move to plan B, he has no clue what to do, so he's just going to ride it out and see what Bruce can do. What's fascinating is that "his way" might work better now, while it didn't work in the 2000s. With the caveat you still need to pick the right players to be aggressive with, not the over-the-hill gang. The Broncos were really the first team to load up with free agents and make a run, and have it be successful. The Rams, Bears, Cowboys (to an extent), and others have been more aggressive in player acquisition through FA or trades and it's paying dividends. Dan's instinct is to be aggressive, but he's letting Bruce be conservative. As strange as it might sound, the best likely situation could be Bruce gone, a personnel guy who isn't stupid (Vinny was stupid), and let Dan be Dan, dust off Redskins One and let's go after it. It would, at the very least, be more entertaining, and there is the possibility he could catch lightening in a bottle. I've said it before, and I don't think it's popular, but I think it would have the best chance of success: if I were Dan, I'd hire Peyton Manning to be the head of football operations. I'd pay him a gagillion dollars, and make him the face of the franchise. Then have him pick a VP of Personnel or something like that with a scouting background to work with. Here's why: 1. You gotta think he knows how to evaluate film, players and scheme and figure out what's good and what's not. Especially with QBs, I'm sure he could look and say, "this guy gets it" or "this guy doesn't get it." This is an assumption, but he did it, for a different purpose, for close to 20 years. The counter-example would be Jordan. The difference is between football and basketball. In football, the art of film study and game planning and learning, especially for the QB, is so much more than anything which is done for basketball. 2. Like him or hate him, he's a big name, a personality, and brings instant credibility and interest to the team. 3. Dan would probably listen to him. He's the type of person and personality I think Dan could get along with. He's a big enough star Dan probably would leave him alone most of the time. 4. Peyton has to have a great network of former players and coaches, and if you're a coach and Peyton calls to talk to you about a job, you listen. 5. It couldn't be worse than it is now. Because even if the record was worse, it would at least be interesting. FWIW, I don't know if I would do the same thing with Brady or Brees, but maybe. All of the same criteria would still hold. Peyton is the biggest name out there which could make a FO splash and actually work.
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    Press Release: #REDSKINS MAKE ROSTER MOVES

    I’d actually be interested in favorite movie, and would feel old that I probably haven’t seen 90% of them...
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    Press Release: #REDSKINS MAKE ROSTER MOVES

    Quick keeps on sticking around yet doesn’t really see a lot of playing time. This is strange...
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    Game of Thrones Season 8

    Ok, new season, new thread. No spoIlers without spoiler tags. If In doubt, please be courteous to your friends who don’t want to be spoiled. i am going to edit this post a little later to add some fun stuff.
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    Poll: How are you choosing to be a Redskins fan right now?

    Dan/Bruce/Jay still here? Yep. No change to my vote. Bruce will not be allowed to pick the new coach. If the record is such Jay gets fired, Bruce will most likely go as well. Jay and Bruce are average enough to get us the 10th-15th pick every year.
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    The Bruce Allen/GM Thread

    @Burgold if they didn’t go nuclear and cut Smith and half the roster to clear all the space and start over fresh, this was about as good a plan B as you can ask for. Keenum is off the books in 1 year. You draft a guy, have 2 serviceable QBs for 2019. If it all goes to crap then you can cut everybody and start over with a new regime.
  8. General 'Skins pessimism. Gruden said he should be full-go for Training Camp, and do individual work for mini-camps and OTAs. I still think they should bring back AP and split the load evenly. With AP's age and Guice coming off of injury, it would benefit both to stay fresh and both could have really good years.
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    Starting QB 2019???

    I think we're asking Case to just be ready until Colt gets hurt. Unless I missed something where somebody said Case was penciled in as the starter He seems like a fairly cheap insurance policy to Colt to me.
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    Starting QB 2019???

    Jay Gruden currently has a raging hard on because he finally gets what he seems to have wanted for a few years: to give Colt McCoy the starting job through training camp to see what he can do. It should also be noted that Bruce also really likes Colt. Jay probably wanted to do this last year before Bruce killed his dream by trading for Smith. So I doubt there will be much of a competition. The job is going to Colt. And I'm fine with that. Colt vs. Case is like Strawberry Shortcake vs. a cabbage patch kid. Not really much of a difference, and both are pretty ugly. The trade for Case means when Colt inevitably gets hurt before week 4, we don't have to go get Mark Sanchez or Josh Johnson off the street. The only person this is really bad for is JJ. He's basically out of a job unless the 'Skins don't draft any QB. I also am willing to bet there are 3 QBs on the roster in some way, either on the 53 or the practice squad all year I think they learned their lesson with not having a 3rd arm in the building. I also don't think this precludes them doing anything in the draft. They probably weren't trading up to begin with, but if a QB they like is there at 15, they'll take him. Bruce and Jay know they need to get into the playoffs this year. They both seem to think they can do it with Colt. I disagree. But Dan has given them the opportunity. And by getting Case, a QB who got his team to the NFC Championship game 2 years ago, if something happens to Colt, there won't be the "we couldn't compete without a QB" excuse. I think Bruce is going to make a few bigger splashes in FA this year. I think they all realize they need more weapons on offense, and even when Richardson was healthy, he wasn't the answer by himself. I hope to God they understand they can't count on Josh Doctson for more than 20-30 catches and 400-ish yards I think the FO probably also realizes that the Mo-Harris's and such of the world just won't cut it either. Regardless of what the coaching staff thinks of the try-hard guys, I think Doug and company realize they need more talent. Doug was clear last year they needed to upgrade at RB. Even when Jay was waxing poetic about Fat Rob and the other JAGs, and it happened. Honestly, on offense, IF they go out and get a #1 WR, and plug the whole with not suck at LG, with the return of Guice and Richardson, they could have an above average offensive group. It really comes down to the WRs, and if they can keep Reed and CT healthy. Obviously the biggest splash would be Antonio Brown. For a minute, let's assume they do that. WR1: Brown WR2: Richardson WR3: Mr. Irrelevant TE1: Reed RB: Guice LT: Williams LG somebody not suck Center: Rouille RG: Scherff RT: Moses QB: Colt/Case That wouldn't be the worst offensive group in the NFL. If they don't get Brown, but they get a true starting caliber WR with speed, that works also. If the defense improves a bit, and they had that grouping on offense, they could win 8-9 games. I don't think their coaching staff has it in them to win more than 9, but that's a different subject for a different day. It's a different story as to whether that's a good plan or not (I say not), but it's possible they could have another 8-8 type season.
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    The Cult of Case

    Blondie. Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time. A long time...
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    The Bruce Allen/GM Thread

    I agree. Though if Dan boots Bruce, there’s no guarantee he doesn’t rehire Vinny. But the status quo has to change. This group can’t get it done. And boo to the media for not following up “we’re close” with “close to what?” Close to 9-7 and a possible playoff appearance? Maybe. Close to a true contender? Not a chance. It was Lafamina who created all that. The new executives are “engaging with our fans” and the crowds will be great. Bruce said so.
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    Let's brag about our kids thread

    Pics coming soon, however Sullivan Taylor D. (Last name withheld to protect the guilty) was born at 10:48pm tonight. And yes, both the first two Initials (ST) and the middle name were intentional.
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    Random Thought Thread

    From the “ok I’ve gotten old” files: watching Kim Possible with my daughter. Allison Hannigan is the mom. The same “this one time at band camp” Allison Hannigan from American Pie. sigh
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    2019 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    I am personally for the extended nuclear option (not only cut Smith, but trade/cut everybody who’s been hurt the last 2 years, fire all the coaches and FO folks, and essentially pretend we are an expansion team in 2020.) But since that’s not what’s going to happen, unless there is a QB they LOVE, I would ride out 2019 and evaluate the Smith situation in 2020. If he wants to try a comeback, then I think you have to let him because you’ve already wasted 2019 waiting around. If he doesn’t, then you pick a QB. The more I think about it, the more I think they SHOULDNT pick a QB until they know the outcome of the Smith situation. If they’re going to ride this year out, then you gotta see how that movie ends...
  16. I had no idea what Cavanaugh did anyway.
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    2019 Comprehensive Draft Thread

    JP has a good point on his podcast: if the Redskins don’t go nuclear, they’re going to have Smith on the roster in 2019 at $20m. You’d think they’d at least like to see what they have on him in 2020 given the cost... That’s harder with a first rounder on the roster. I think it’s the Colt McCoy show and a 5th or 6th round guy this year until they figure out what Alex’s 2020 status is. Them they can spend their top 5 pick next year on a QB after McCoy gets hurt and they realize Josh Johnson actually can’t really play.
  18. So Allen confirmed Cavanaugh will be doing advanced scouting and Jay will continue to call plays. They hired a guy to be QB coach. Callahan will continue to have a large impact on the run game So so what exactly is Kevin O’Connell responsible for as OC and how is it different than his role as passing game coordinator?
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    The Bruce Allen/GM Thread

    I love it when threads turn into geography lessons...
  20. You’d think the mid-2000’s Bucs were the Lombardi Packers at the rate we gather people from that organization. Its probably woth noting they actually won nothing and the coach and GM got fired. Whatever.
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    Game of Thrones Season 8

    Honestly, these pictures are just stills of individual characters, very tough to determine anything from them.
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    Game of Thrones Season 8

    http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/new-photos-season-8-daenerys-jon-snow Photos from season 8. The Nights Cast has a good podcast breaking all of them down for the super nerds like me.
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    Gameday Thread

    I said this an hour ago and my opinion hasn’t changed. were leaving the SB party we’re at, and I doubt I will bother to turn it back on.
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    Gameday Thread

    Looked like PI
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    Gameday Thread

    It’s all run or play action. Needs to sprinkle in some quick game on early downs. Dilly Dilly.