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Man, lot of quality left…

We brought in Isaiah Adams for a 30 visit, right? Edit: oh, walked away for a few… looks like I’m behind the 8 ball, lol

I’d be especially tempted to trade for Aiyuk if we could pull off a pick swap instead, like 40 for either 63 or 94. Equivalent of a ~3rd, but we don’t lose a pick. Whether SF is willing to trade him, whether Peters thinks he’s a fit (culture-wise), and whether it’s worth going after a guy that’s demanding a trade is a different story.

Is Dejean or Kool-Aid a better fit for us?

Feels like we’ve caught a glimmer or a hint of that in reports. Combined with his rawness, there’s a concern there for sure. I guess I’d hope that surrounding factors can make a significant impact - hard-nosed guys around him, what looks to be a sea change in culture (hopefully for real this time), and coaching that DQ has emphasized must come from connecting to the player. Would like to add a high end pass rusher to help the other DEs challenge whoever our tackles are.

Bro, you and me both, lol.

I’d add DE to your list. I’d love to land one of these top ILBs, but I don’t love the value of taking one in the 2nd and having them sit until Wagner (and/or Davis) is gone next year. Well, at least compared with taking one of the other spots that could contribute this year. Now in the 3rd and beyond? Sign me up I think I’d be ok taking Paul or Suamataia at 36/40, but I’m also good with waiting on OT if guys like Dejean, Kool-aid and McConkey are on the board.

My impression is that STs just got more important… or at least will lead to a change in how it’s approached. So it kinda feels like teams will be scrambling to add guys that fit the new rules. But yeah, definite de-emphasis on the “classic” return man.

There are plenty of concerns with Daniels, but 1 read and go isn’t one of them, IMO. Oops, you’re right

For reference… Looking at 2nd-3rd (and some that may/will drop to, or belong in the 4th or even 5th), I combined PFF’s big board (through 120 or so), plus some additional guys that some on here are pretty high on… (note: I didn’t factor fit). DE: Kneeland, Braswell, Isaac, Trice, Booker, Kamara, Hunt, Ellis, Thomas, Soloman WR: McConkey, Mitchell, Polk, Wilson, Franklin, Coleman, McMillan, Baker, Walker, Corley, Burton, Malik’s Washington, Thrash, Cowing, Ainias Smith, Rice, Tahj Washington, McCaffrey Corner: Cooper, McKinstry, Tampa, Rakestraw, Lassiter, Sainristril, Melton, Jackson, Green, Abrams-Draine, Jarrion Jones, Phillips, Carson Tackle: Paul, Suamataia, Amegadie, Rosengarten, Fisher, Wallace, Puni, Goncalves, Jones, Lumea, Adams, Foster LB: Cooper, Colson, Wilson, Trotter, Eichenberg, Liufau S: Nubian, Bullard, Hicks, Bullock, Taylor-Demerson, Kinchens, Vaki RB: Brooks, Corum, Wright, Benson, Irving, Davis, Lloyd, Tracy, Estime TE: Sinnot, Sanders, Stover, All, Wiley, Johnson Obviously I didn’t include G (some of the tackles may move inside though) or DT, although I don’t know that we should rule them out (would be wild if we nab Newton at 36/40, lol).

Completely agree with your main point - he needs to protect himself and not press too hard. I’m not sure about his jukes taking too long though, unless I’m misunderstanding you - he doesn’t really throttle down much when juking (hence Peters using the term “slasher”). Logan had an interesting point about him getting hit. Not sure I fully understand/buy it (it’s tickling my few remaining brain cells though), but it was something along the lines of more mass, meaning more resistance, meaning more force absorbed 🤷‍♂️ (now that I wrote that, I feel like you posted some physics calculations a while back, so maybe you’re the one to talk to, lol) I assumed he was talking about Mariota…

Probably the 5 best offensive players drafted by us in the last 5 years: Terry, Cosmi, Gibson, Robinson… and then John Bates. I mean, WTH. I’d give honorable mention to Dotson and Howell, but then who? Saadiq Charles? Dax Milne? Yikes.

Like 2/3 of a Trent Brown combined, lol.

Fricken’ hell man, that brought tears to my eyes. Loved watching that dude play. Couldn’t be more deserved.

Don’t know that this will allay any concerns, but average prospect age this year is 23.24. Average draft pick age last year was 24.11… both significantly higher than the previous 2 decades. For reference, from 2000-2018, average age dropped from 22.6 to 21.7.