nonniey Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Crap the Saints also game up a 4th round pick in that deal with the Packers. We need a better front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, bcl05 said: Interesting that Ragnow and Price go before Wynn and Hernandez. I’d like to see one of those OGs get to our 2nd rounder... Hernandez in the 2nd round would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, mistertim said: Obviously there's no way to know this so its totally just opinion but I could see Payne easily getting close to the end of the 1st round if we hadn't picked him. I mean, it's certainly possible. Derwin James also could have blown out his knee walking to the podium after we drafted him. Life is strange like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, MartinC said: Hernandez in the 2nd round would be awesome. That's my choice right now. I'd swap a third next year to grab him tonight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Payne was rated the top player on the Alabama defense by PFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortisBetts Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: Meh, no one wins on every play. The other guys are good too. Im not saying anything about the pick. I just noticed the highlight. It was a really bad one for payne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh32 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Now we need to get a RB in the second.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfsire Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 James is a beast with all the skills to track and deliver. How we pass on him is beyond me. We missed on a future all-pro. This organization is a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, wolfsire said: James is a beast with all the skills to track and deliver. How we pass on him is beyond me. We missed on a future all-pro. This organization is a mess. We have already. Montae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrison J Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, MartinC said: Sure. Everyone is entitled to their opinion - but let’s not forget that we really don’t know anything compared to the NFL front office. I don’t take my own opinion on this stuff seriously, heaven forbid anyone else does. Ah it's all part of it. If you don't believe your opinons over others then why have an opinion at all. I'm absolutely positive Jay Gruden is a better head coach than I am but when he ****s up his clock management I'm going to question him too. It's all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bacon said: I mean, it's certainly possible. Derwin James also could have blown out his knee walking to the podium after we drafted him. Life is strange like that. McLovin could have also been totally sober, and not swimming in a vat of tequila when the Browns set their board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, MartinC said: Hernandez in the 2nd round would be awesome. Never gonna happen. He'll be long gone. Seriously doubt he makes it out of the first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, bh32 said: Now we need to get a RB in the second.. depends on what Guards are available versus what RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I’ll never get upset about taking a DT in the draft in the first round. Most take some training and development to become good, but patience begets strength. No one truly knows who will bust. This guy might not be Ngota, but he has potential and a motor. It’s a good combination. Plus, his buds are here. That can help if they’re all serious about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh32 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, wolfsire said: James is a beast with all the skills to track and deliver. How we pass on him is beyond me. We missed on a future all-pro. This organization is a mess. He is no taylor,Reed,or palamalu.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahogs Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Payne's a piece to the defensive puzzle, he's not "the missing piece." He'll help to make the defense better, not worse. By doing his job consistently, and maybe even doing it pretty well, he'll help others on the defense look better...our linebackers, the db's. So, is this a sexy pick? No. Does this pick help the team? Yes. Is there a potential upside to this pick without much downside? Most definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, wolfsire said: James is a beast with all the skills to track and deliver. How we pass on him is beyond me. We missed on a future all-pro. This organization is a mess. We went with a super duper safe pick for need. Very unlikely Payne is a bust because he's pretty physically gifted and is a hard worker. But IMO also just as unlikely that he's an All Pro. James would have been a more risky pick with ridiculous upside. We aren't really known for those picks, especially on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Califan007 The Constipated Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 In case anyone was wondering, I haven't heard from Margot Robbie, dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 So...who else is on the Mike Gesicki train for Round 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Is he going to be an all down DL, or jogging off on every passing down. All i wanted at 13 was an all down player, and hope he fits the bill. Are we expecting him at end in the 3-4, or at nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, MartinC said: I don’t take my own opinion on this stuff seriously, heaven forbid anyone else does. You've been here a long time my friend, you should know better than to ever think this . But in all seriousness, I don't believe in always deferring to the wisdom of the pros when it comes to the draft. It's hard to draft and even smart people who are good at their jobs make mistakes. Sometimes really obvious ones. Like giving up the farm to pick Marcus Davenport about ten picks early... But I'm with you, I don't think picking Payne is an example of the front office making a mistake. I am as pure a BPA guy as anyone on this board and I believe Payne at 13 is a value pick, especially with the QBs and Nelson and Roquan and Barkley and Ward and Fitzpatrick off the board. Payne was my boy. I spent like 5 hours making gifs of him doing his thing and arguing for him the past two weeks, and I wouldn't do that for someone I didn't really like. This feels like 2015 when we picked another one of my boys in Scherff and the board was really pissed off about it. But it was the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Not you, Cooley. He's a lousy talking head who shouldn't be joking about other people in the organization losing their jobs. Ok, got it. I am citing Cooley not because he or for that matter anyone is the definitive opinion about anything. But I've just noticed that in his film reviews he's been really spot on about D lineman including saying Ionnaidis is going to be a stud when they took him. And like I said weeks back when Cooley did his film reviews -- we all gravitate towards people who share our opinions so maybe that was it with me with Cooley's take. But he described Payne for my taste to a tee. Good player -- sees no greatness in him. And we can do better at 13. I don't think he will be a bust, too. But I will be surprised if we are talking about the dude as one of the better D lineman in the game down the road. The best analogy I can think of is he will be like a Mason Foster type addition to the D line. Good player-solid-consistent but nothing special -- not a Sean Lee. And I really am hoping hard that I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 26 minutes ago, MartinC said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Morrison J said: Ah it's all part of it. If you don't believe your opinons over others then why have an opinion at all. I'm absolutely positive Jay Gruden is a better head coach than I am but when he ****s up his clock management I'm going to question him too. It's all relative. I know football, I like to think I understand what I’m looking at. But I also know there is a reason I don’t ‘do’football for a living nor do I put the grinding hours and hours into the scouting and grading process those in NFL front offices do. So I’m not arguing we as fans should not have opinions - just don’t fall in love with them and over react based on them. It is what it is. The proof will be on the field. As Redskins fans all we can do is hope it all works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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