Reaper Skins Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 The Washington Football Team is making a quarterback change, with Kyle Allen taking over the starting role from Dwayne Haskins for Sunday's Week 5 game against the Los Angeles Rams at FedEx Field. Ian Rapoport of NFL Network first reported the news Wednesday. Washington confirmed the move: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2912382-dwayne-haskins-benched-for-kyle-allen-by-washington-football-team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I'm disappointed. I don't feel that was necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawRebel Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 If Kyle has terrible game we can't go back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 When does the "Tanking for Trevor" begin? "Losing for Lawrence"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I like Shoddy for Sewell myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Because I am a west coaster and missed the breaking news portion of Haskins getting benched, it looks like THAT aspect has been discussed and debated in several threads already. Based on performance I am not totally shocked by this, but I am also a little bit confused on how that jives with what I thought the approach to the 2020 season was. Could it be that the division after a month is so terrible, that Rivera feels like being only 1 game behind the division leads means they should change to a win now mentality? Perhaps maybe RIvera wants Haskins to get a good look from the sideline of all the plays he is not making on the field that are there to be made? Haskins has been mediocre but the one thing he hasn't been too bad about is turnovers (for most games) so it seems like this is more about him not seeing the field well and missing too many throws? His mechanics are still pretty bad which is causing him to air mail too many passes.....? With that said, my bigger question is why Kyle Allen and not Alex Smith? They said Alex Smith is now the backup, which means they are confident enough that if Kyle Allen was to be injured, Smith would be in there playing, which also means they feel Alex Smith is healthy enough to play? Are we to assume this entire move is an indirect way to get Alex Smith back as the starter without just making that move up front? Let's be honest this is Kyle Allen we are talking about here. Sure, he might provide a small spark to the offense based on his knowledge of it alone, but he is not a starting QB in the NFL. It is only a matter of time before he shows why he is a backup journeyman. If Alex Smith is healthy enough to be on the field, not to mention I read a small blip today that coaches felt Alex Smith was the best looking QB during training camp, why not just make him the starter right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Sucks, the QB search continues. Hopefully Kyle Allen surprises us all, this seems like a lateral move at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Haskins was not is not and never will the the answer at QB anywhere. I think it's a great move and I'm looking forward to it. Finally the offense won't be boring AF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoshuaj Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Countdown to the implosion and explosion after his first pick, TD, fumble, >20 yard completion, sack, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Right move and the right time. If Haskins takes us to 1-4, which looked likely, there would be no turning this season around. I actually believe we have a chance at the playoffs, and Allen gives us the chance to go 2-3 and maybe scrape up a division title in this NFC mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Not sure I understand the long-term plan here. Haskins has not been good, but you're replacing him with arguably 2019's worst QB starter? There was never a real threat to contend in 2019 unless a QB stepped up. It doesn't look like that's going to happen for Haskins this year and it's extremely unlikely it'll happen for Allen. But to just dump a first round pick after 11 starts is pretty pointless if you're not actually contending or have a viable back-up. It's a lost season either way, but you should at least see what you have in Haskins over a full season. There's a chance, though a small one, he is more Matt Stafford or Jared Goff than say DeMarcus Russell. Seems like another short-sighted move, something Washington has made for decades now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Skins Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Seems like this is Ron trying to figure out what he has for talent on the rest of the offensive roster. Also trying to evaluate how effective Turner's offense can be if its run by someone who is familiar with it. Thats why Kyle got the nod over Alex Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jericho said: Not sure I understand the long-term plan here. Haskins has not been good, but you're replacing him with arguably 2019's worst QB starter? There was never a real threat to contend in 2019 unless a QB stepped up. It doesn't look like that's going to happen for Haskins this year and it's extremely unlikely it'll happen for Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Big discussion going on in the Haskins thread so I’ll keep my feelings brief here: Rivera said he was starting after the game Sunday. Something happened. Haskins’ agent’s tweet likely was part of it. Locker rooms don’t love that stuff. They have agents that they have to keep quiet themselves. The last thing people want is a guy’s agent putting his cast on blast. But there’s probably more to it. To be demoted to 4th string means it was something that the team believed was damaging to the franchise. I’m not sure we’ll ever know, but I’d be thinking there’s more to it than how he missed a 4th and goal pass play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 It will not be easy to beat the Rams. Allen will have his work cut out for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Stupid Loser Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, RawRebel said: If Kyle has terrible game we can't go back And he might. Probably will. But that doesn't change that Haskins is just not an NFL QB. So even if Kyle stinks it up, why would we go back? If they have any belief that Haskins can improve, then PS him and put some effort in to developing him. Maybe he could be a serviceable backup someday. If not, get what you can, if anything. But no reason to go back to him, no matter how bad Allen is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, veteranskinsfan said: It will not be easy to beat the Rams. Allen will have his work cut out for him. Piggybacking... To me this was never about Haskins vs. Allen. It was: Is Haskins the guy or not? Next question is: Is Allen the guy or not? My answer right now? Probably not. But, to me this was never about one or the other or putting them against each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I would have ridden it out a few more weeks, but I totally get it. Haskins lack of progression has seemed Mental this year. He had a few good games last year that provided hope. Nothing really this year. You put him on notice last week, and he played ok, not good enough for certain. This still gives you the ability to bring him back in, if another change is needed. BUT if you are really going for the division this year, I thought Alex gives you the best chance to do that not Kyle. He did have a few great games as the starter but eventually came back to the mean. This gives him the opportunity to show which Kyle Allen he really is. So I’m fine with it. I’m sure Ron got input from the other leaders on the team, and they were like, “Kid needs a break, he’s pressing.” Or “ He’s not the answer, we don’t believe.” Such is life of a Washington fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Only way I see this cratering is if by some stroke of bad luck, Smith is in, and his leg blows up. Imo, that's the only way Rivera loses in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, Reaper Skins said: Seems like this is Ron trying to figure out what he has for talent on the rest of the offensive roster. Also trying to evaluate how effective Turner's offense can be if its run by someone who is familiar with it. Thats why Kyle got the nod over Alex Smith. I'm interested in seeing how well Logan Thomas fares with the change. He could be quite good considering Turner's TE involvement in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbws Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 hours ago, NoCalMike said: Let's be honest this is Kyle Allen we are talking about here. Sure, he might provide a small spark to the offense based on his knowledge of it alone, but he is not a starting QB in the NFL. It is only a matter of time before he shows why he is a backup journeyman. If Alex Smith is healthy enough to be on the field, not to mention I read a small blip today that coaches felt Alex Smith was the best looking QB during training camp, why not just make him the starter right now? So third year in the league makes you a journeyman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvernon Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Love it. Let's see what this offensive system can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I'm not upset, but after the time I spent telling myself that Haskins probably needs to start the entire season to avoid a QB carousel if/when Allen falters and to tank for a draft pick, I have only one thought now: I know nothing lmao Alex Smith is probably drooling right now for the chance if Allen has trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Malapropismic Depository Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 30 in 27 years. That averages out to be a QB change within each season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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