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[skinsfan93]

Very happy we didn’t get Cooper. His contract would have been the kind that would hamper moves for next year. I don’t agree with Rex on how he called him a turd but agree with him on his points he made. He does disappear in big games and to me is kind of soft. If he came here, we would have had to focus the offense around him. 

[dyst]

Maybe it has always been like this, I am not sure, I was much younger back then but I miss when football shows were not trying to be controversial with funny gimmicks and puns.

There is absolutely no reason for Rex to call Amari a turd. Forget the fact that Cooper is actually a really good wide receiver but using the term turd to describe a player (as a broadcast personality) is just unprofessional.

 

This is why I can’t watch the pre-game shows on the major networks and ESPN anymore. Everyone just tries to be funny or scream the loudest.

[JSSkinz]

6 minutes ago, dyst said:

Maybe it has always been like this, I am not sure, I was much younger back then but I miss when football shows were not trying to be controversial with funny gimmicks and puns.

There is absolutely no reason for Rex to call Amari a turd. Forget the fact that Cooper is actually a really good wide receiver but using the term turd to describe a player (as a broadcast personality) is just unprofessional.

 

This is why I can’t watch the pre-game shows on the major networks and ESPN anymore. Everyone just tries to be funny or scream the loudest.

[Conn]

The fact that Rex felt comfortable saying that tells you he did not get even a single slight whiff of interest from the NFL this offseason. He's no longer worried about relationships with players or the league and he's realized he needs to generate clicks. That's when you can write a guy off. It's unfortunate too, because he could really do a lot to make the general TV fanbase smarter by talking X's and O's in an understandable fashion. I think the NFL fanbase is actually the dumbest professional sports fanbase when it comes to the sport's on-field intricacies. Almost every fan of every other major sport knows more about what happens on the field/court/etc. (not counting stats or analytics but schemes, etc). To me that seems obvious and it's partially because it's a complex and secretive sport, but also it's due to the way sports media presents information to NFL fans, they focus on the lowest common denominator. They don't focus on the sport they focus on the drama of the personalities. Every panel show is just The View for sports. That's why these personalities like Orlovsky who actually break down the game are gaining such a twitter following.

 

Every sport has this problem with it's coverage but it seems worse for the NFL. Most NFL fans are pretty dumb about the actual game imo and I don't experience that talking to fans of other sports.

[skinsfan93]

1 hour ago, JSSkinz said:

is there anyone more unwatchable than Stephen A Smith, maybe Skip Bayless comes real close?  He may know basketball but knows squat about football. Rex was just trying to become similar to those guys like a dj shock jock. After all we are talking about it? 

[Comrade Wolf]

9 minutes ago, skinsfan93 said:

is there anyone more unwatchable than Stephen A Smith, maybe Skip Bayless comes real close?  He may know basketball but knows squat about football. Rex was just trying to become similar to those guys like a dj shock jock. After all we are talking about it? 

I do admire the amount of money S.A.S. Must have spent to stop his hair loss just short of the crown of his head. And I agree that he is unwatchable, there Wasn’t any real substance to his show back in the day and I can’t imagine it has improved.

[SkinsGuy]

3 hours ago, dyst said:

This is why I can’t watch the pre-game shows on the major networks and ESPN anymore. Everyone just tries to be funny or scream the loudest.

 

I never watch the inane pregame shows on Sunday morning.

 

I watch the 3 hour "Fantasy Football Now" on ESPN2.

[redrobert]

Skip Bayless is the absolute worst.

Cowherd is pretty close as well. And if Michael Ervin shows up on any program I change the channel...

[Riggo#44]

Underrated asshole: Max Kellerman.

[max21]

8 minutes ago, redrobert said:

Skip Bayless is the absolute worst.

Cowherd is pretty close as well. And if Michael Ervin shows up on any program I change the channel...

Hahaha bro Micheal Irvin is the worst I literally changed the channel one time because of him 

[SkinsGuy]

6 minutes ago, redrobert said:

Skip Bayless is the absolute worst.

Cowherd is pretty close as well. And if Michael Ervin shows up on any program I change the channel...

 

Cowherd is an irritant. Both his opinions and his voice.

 

Bayless is barely tolerable when he is talking about non-football stories.

 

When he is talking football (99% of the time his cowboys), he is insufferable.

 

I avoid Irvin at all costs. Him and Deion Sanders.

 

They are dreadful.

5 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

Underrated asshole: Max Kellerman.

 

I can't stand Kellerman. I can put up with Stephen A. Smith.

 

Not that I watch or listen to any of these programs.

 

I partly watch them during football season.

 

I don't watch them at all in the offseason.

[ddyork]

Deion, Irvin, and Bayless are who I can’t stand to watch....  time to turn the channel...

[joeken24]

19 hours ago, 98ORAKPO98 said:

Eh he was injured while with the Eagles, fresh start this season could revitalize his career.

 

 

Was this 5 years ago? You can look at the 2015 film of Josh Norman and see good things. 5 year old film is inadmissible bruh. 

[HigSkin]

 

[skinsfan93]

Speaking of Michael Irvin, did anyone ever see Emmitt Smith when he was on ESPN?  Those videos were the absolute funniest! 
 

 

 

 

[HTTRDynasty]

 

[Est.1974]

2 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said:

 

So it’s likely Harris has that very high price as anticipated...

[Vanguard]

This team to me right now is like a sports car with a lot of potential, like a Lamborghini.  But you got all the parts on ebay.🙄

 

Maybe not all the parts, but a lot of them.  Still could be a decent season, i hope.

[Master Blaster]

2 minutes ago, Vanguard said:

This team to me right now is like a sports car with a lot of potential, like a Lamborghini.  But you got all the parts on ebay.🙄

 

Maybe not all the parts, but a lot of them.  Still could be a decent season, i hope.

 

 

Success this season will come down to establishing a running game and Haskins maturing.

[SmallDaddy]

54 minutes ago, Vanguard said:

This team to me right now is like a sports car with a lot of potential, like a Lamborghini.  But you got all the parts on ebay.🙄

 

Maybe not all the parts, but a lot of them.  Still could be a decent season, i hope.

I think at best we are a Mazda. 

[skinny21]

7 minutes ago, SmallDaddy said:

I think at best we are a Mazda. 

With some nice rims.  I’m hoping the nitrous comes in this month.  

[Comrade Wolf]

What we want to be:

 

 

 

 

 

What we are:

 

[COWBOY-KILLA-]

So would you guys pull the trigger on say Anthony Harris and a 4th round pick for Trent? If they said this is gonna be our best offer...

I think I'd have to do it if there arent any other solid offers from another team. What do you guys think? 👍 or👎

 

Its a lot of money to commit to the safety group assuming we sign him to a new deal, but we haven't had a proper FS since Sean and its been at the heart of a lot of the issues in our defensive backfield. Could solidify that D like we haven't seen for a while in DC

[skinny21]

1 hour ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said:

So would you guys pull the trigger on say Anthony Harris and a 4th round pick for Trent? If they said this is gonna be our best offer...

I think I'd have to do it if there arent any other solid offers from another team. What do you guys think? 👍 or👎

 

Its a lot of money to commit to the safety group assuming we sign him to a new deal, but we haven't had a proper FS since Sean and its been at the heart of a lot of the issues in our defensive backfield. Could solidify that D like we haven't seen for a while in DC

On one hand, we need more blue chip players badly, FS has been a problem for a while (as you say), and Harris solves both of those in a big way. 
On the other hand, we take on a pretty big salary, we’d lose the 4th plus whatever pick(s) Trent could be traded for, and we’d still have plenty of other problem spots.  
I think the staff has to decide if they’re going for youth, and therefore numbers out of the draft, or looking at fielding the best team they can in the short term.  

I don’t think the cap number would be an issue for them as long as they’re getting a clear upgrade - see Hooper/Cooper - but I’m not sure they’ll like the idea of losing 2+ mid round picks (assuming Trent could be traded for a 3rd or better).  I think I’d ‘play the long game’ if I were them... keep the 4th, roll over cap, and try to trade Trent once demand goes up.  I think Rivera wants Trent gone sooner rather than later though...

[Number 44]

15 minutes ago, skinny21 said:

On one hand, we need more blue chip players badly, FS has been a problem for a while (as you say), and Harris solves both of those in a big way. 
On the other hand, we take on a pretty big salary, we’d lose the 4th plus whatever pick(s) Trent could be traded for, and we’d still have plenty of other problem spots.  
I think the staff has to decide if they’re going for youth, and therefore numbers out of the draft, or looking at fielding the best team they can in the short term.  

I don’t think the cap number would be an issue for them as long as they’re getting a clear upgrade - see Hooper/Cooper - but I’m not sure they’ll like the idea of losing 2+ mid round picks (assuming Trent could be traded for a 3rd or better).  I think I’d ‘play the long game’ if I were them... keep the 4th, roll over cap, and try to trade Trent once demand goes up.  I think Rivera wants Trent gone sooner rather than later though...

 

I believe that his proposal involved receiving a 4th, not giving one up.