Welcome to the Redskins Chase Young DE Ohio State

[Warhead36]

Miami has no incentive to move up. None of the four teams ahead of them are taking Tua. Hell I'm not even sure Tua will be considered for that #5 pick, he might be available for them at #18 if he isn't healthy by the combine/private workout time.

[OVCChairman]

19 hours ago, Warhead36 said:

Miami has no incentive to move up. None of the four teams ahead of them are taking Tua. Hell I'm not even sure Tua will be considered for that #5 pick, he might be available for them at #18 if he isn't healthy by the combine/private workout time.

 

All of this is pending Tuas health, but i cant see him falling past Miami at 5.  If he does, San Diego will fall all over themselves to get him 

 

Detroit - no. 3

Miami - no. 5

Las Angeles Chargers - no. 6

Carolina - no. 7

Las Vegas - no. 12

Indy - no. 13

Tampa Bay - no. 14

 

The case can be made for any of those teams that Tua would make sense.. and if he falls to 8, i can see a team like New England looking to move up and get him.  Any of those teams could try and get to 2 or 3 and get Tua if he is their guy and they belive Miami will take him at 5.  

Edited January 29, 2020 by OVCChairman

[Vanguard]

12 hours ago, KDawg said:

The arm and confidence I see.

 

The leadership I don’t. What examples have we seen of this? He very well could be a leader... he was a rookie and well behind the curve, so he may blossom into it. But have we seen this to tout it as one of his qualities currently? I’m genuinely asking.

To me, when I see him going over and talking to his teammates after something bad happens, even though he’s a rookie, and players didn’t seem to want to listen.  I see that as leadership quality.  When he goes over and asks his linemen what he can do to help them, that’s the kind of thing a leader does.  The reason you don’t see him barking at people in year one, is because he’s a rookie, and because he doesn’t have command of the offense yet.  I think that will change in year two and three.

[Pick6]

27 minutes ago, OVCChairman said:

 

All of this is pending Tuas health, but i cant see him falling past Miami at 5.  If he does, San Diego will fall all over themselves to get him 

 

Detroit - no. 3

Miami - no. 5

Las Angelos - no. 6

Carolina - no. 7

Las Vegas - no. 12

Indy - no. 13

Tampa Bay - no. 14

 

The case can be made for any of those teams that Tua would make sense.. and if he falls to 8, i can see a team like New England looking to move up and get him.  Any of those teams could try and get to 2 or 3 and get Tua if he is their guy and they belive Miami will take him at 5.  

I just don’t know why anyone would give up a ton to trade for him. To me Tua looks like the guy who is one big hit away from never playing again. I don’t see long term franchise QB and he won’t be able to play in 2020. Even Tua himself has admit after this hip injury he will never be 100% of the player he was in college. 

[KDawg]

15 minutes ago, Vanguard said:

To me, when I see him going over and talking to his teammates after something bad happens, even though he’s a rookie, and players didn’t seem to want to listen.  I see that as leadership quality.  When he goes over and asks his linemen what he can do to help them, that’s the kind of thing a leader does.  The reason you don’t see him barking at people in year one, is because he’s a rookie, and because he doesn’t have command of the offense yet.  I think that will change in year two and three.

Barking isn’t necessarily leadership. 
 

The part above...

 

About his teammates not listening?

 

That means, to that point, he wasn’t a leader. 
 

Again, he improved since and things seemed to turn around. But he did not display, in my opinion, leadership qualities last season.

 

Doesnt mean he can’t. Doesn’t mean the situation didn’t dictate that. But, he has a lot to show on that front in my opinion.

[Vanguard]

5 minutes ago, KDawg said:

Barking isn’t necessarily leadership. 
 

The part above...

 

About his teammates not listening?

 

That means, to that point, he wasn’t a leader. 
 

Again, he improved since and things seemed to turn around. But he did not display, in my opinion, leadership qualities last season.

 

Doesnt mean he can’t. Doesn’t mean the situation didn’t dictate that. But, he has a lot to show on that front in my opinion.

What Peyton Manning got high praise for, telling people where to be, and trying to motivate his teammates in the huddle, that’s what I call barking.  His teammates weren’t listening because he hadn’t proven himself.  He was still a backup in the instance I’m referring to.  When you start balling, your teammates respect you.

[KDawg]

1 minute ago, Vanguard said:

What Peyton Manning got high praise for, telling people where to be, and trying to motivate his teammates in the huddle, that’s what I call barking.  His teammates weren’t listening because he hadn’t proven himself.  He was still a backup in the instance I’m referring to.  When you start balling, your teammates respect you.

not always the case. Playing better doesn’t make you a leader. 

[Vanguard]

Just now, KDawg said:

not always the case. Playing better doesn’t make you a leader. 

That’s not what I said.  Okay.

[KDawg]

7 minutes ago, Vanguard said:

That’s not what I said.  Okay.

It is, though. At least In the sense that you seem to be correlating respect with leadership. Maybe that’s not what you meant there, but given the context of the convo that’s what I read it is, which, of course, could be a misread.

 

Haskins has a lot to prove. And he can do it. 
 

I just see him differently than many here. I see him as a capable player going into his second season where he has some stability and has gotten his feet wet that has a chance to cement himself as the Redskins QB.

 

Others here (not you) think he has already shown he’s the man.

 

Still others think he 100% can’t pan out. 
 

This season will be an excellent opportunity for him. 

Edited January 29, 2020 by KDawg

[Vanguard]

17 minutes ago, KDawg said:

It is, though. At least In the sense that you seem to be correlating respect with leadership. Maybe that’s not what you meant there, but given the context of the convo that’s what I read it is, which, of course, could be a misread.

When you start playing better, and you’re no longer a backup.  People take your encouragement and advice more seriously.  Nobody was brushing him off after he started playing well.

[goskins10]

23 minutes ago, KDawg said:

It is, though. At least In the sense that you seem to be correlating respect with leadership. Maybe that’s not what you meant there, but given the context of the convo that’s what I read it is, which, of course, could be a misread.

 

Haskins has a lot to prove. And he can do it. 
 

I just see him differently than many here. I see him as a capable player going into his second season where he has some stability and has gotten his feet wet that has a chance to cement himself as the Redskins QB.

 

Others here (not you) think he has already shown he’s the man.

 

Still others think he 100% can’t pan out. 
 

This season will be an excellent opportunity for him. 

 

Based on our earlier conversation if that's what you thought I was saying it was not, not at all. He has a very long way to go. My only point was that I could see signs of leadership. He took ownership of his deficiencies and he worked to hard correct them. Guys respect that, a lot. And you could see he had a better command of the huddle and guys were respecting him and starting to work for him instead of going through the motions. To me those are signs he is growing into being a leader. But "the man!", not hardly. 

 

Not directed at you, just using this as a launch pad - I think peoples expectations are way out of proportion to reality. We are so hungry for good play that the second I guy makes a mistake or has a bad game - he is a complete POS the rest of his career until the team gets rid of them. He is still very young - and spare me the he is legally an adult crap. As someone about to turn 60 he is just barely out of diapers and his maturity - just like all of us at that age, is still very young. 

 

This is a big year for him but the expectations need to be realistic. Even with an amazing season he will still have a ways to go. At least he will be starting with a fresh staff that I believe the coaches will give him every opportunity and provide true support. So much else is made easier if he pans out. 

 

That brings me back to Chase - The closer the draft comes, the truly QB needy teams are gong to get more and more nervous. Also, all of a sudden there will be several teams. I will be very interested in seeing what they do. 

 

I can truly see both arguments - the argument for drafting Chase is we do not have those blue chop players. While there are no grantees he has ht best chance of any player the last 10 to 15 drafts to be that guy. But if they can get a truly franchise changing trade like say the Hershal Walker trade. 

 

Again, I am excited to see where they go. 

 

 

[Burgundy Yoda]

I trust those geeks at PFF a lot more than draft gurus, I'm all about data. The fact that Chase Young received the highest grade they've ever given a DE should get us all very excited. Those are strict, unbiased numbers that also imply the impact on the game as well. You can't find a better prospect. 

[kingdaddy]

2 hours ago, Warhead36 said:

Miami has no incentive to move up. None of the four teams ahead of them are taking Tua. Hell I'm not even sure Tua will be considered for that #5 pick, he might be available for them at #18 if he isn't healthy by the combine/private workout time.

I think this way of thinking is premature.....it has nothing to do with the teams ahead of them as much as who Miami might be afraid of trading up ahead of them to get Tua. I know you know this, but I'm just trying to say there is a long way to go before late April and how great of a prospect Tua might be. 

[JaxJoe]

12 hours ago, Anselmheifer said:

As a side note, it wouldn’t surprise me if Young’s workout numbers aren’t as high as people expect. You can’t find them online anywhere. Usually for these athletic freaks, there is something online stating that they had a fast time measured in the 40, or have an amazing vertical, or bench/deadlift/squat numbers. For Chase there is nothing. And his 40 wasn’t that fast coming out of HS. 

 

NFLDraftScout posted some 40 yd dash times:

40 Low: 4.46   40 Time: 4.57  40 High: 4.67

[KillBill26]

3 hours ago, Warhead36 said:

Miami has no incentive to move up. None of the four teams ahead of them are taking Tua. Hell I'm not even sure Tua will be considered for that #5 pick, he might be available for them at #18 if he isn't healthy by the combine/private workout time.

If Detroit passes on tua, I don't see why the Giants would stay at 4 instead of trading back.  Especially when you see Andrew Thomas being mocked there, trading back to get one of the other comparable OTs and getting extra picks seems enticing. I hope they stay and take Thomas, I think it is their worst move.  If I were them, I'd auction tua at 4.

[rumplestilskin]

I think once the combine and proday for Herbert come and go his stock will climb into the top 5. This could result in possibly devaluing Tua's stock because teams know they can get Herbert as a healthy plan B a little lower down without giving up the farm. We just need not over think this. Go with Chase and move forward with the no brainer.

[RandyHolt]

All in on Bosa as Bowl MVP.

 

The proceeds will go towards getting this thread thoroughly cleaned disinfected and deodorized

 

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

3 hours ago, KDawg said:

not always the case. Playing better doesn’t make you a leader. 

I'd say it does. It doesn't necessarily make you a good leader but a leader on some level nonetheless.

[HTTRDynasty]

It's weird that people don't see EDGE as a need.  I found this on another forum.  These are the totals pressures in 2019 for each defender per SIS.  It's pretty damn sad how far down the list our first edge rusher is.  

 

Player	Team	Pos	Total
Cameron Jordan	NO	DL	67.0
Za'Darius Smith	GB	LB	65.0
Nick Bosa	SF	DL	62.0
Danielle Hunter	MIN	DL	59.0
Shaquil Barrett	TB	LB	55.0
Khalil Mack	CHI	LB	53.0
Von Miller	DEN	LB	52.0
DeMarcus Lawrence	DAL	DL	50.0
Joey Bosa	LAC	DL	49.0
Aaron Donald	LARM	DL	48.0
Trey Flowers	DET	DL	46.0
T.J. Watt	PIT	LB	46.0
Markus Golden	NYG	LB	45.0
Kyle Van Noy	NE	LB	45.0
Matt Judon	BAL	LB	45.0
Calais Campbell	JAC	DL	43.0
Chandler Jones	ARI	LB	43.0
Jadeveon Clowney	SEA	DL	42.0
Everson Griffen	MIN	DL	40.0
Dante Fowler Jr.	LARM	LB	39.0
Melvin Ingram III	LAC	DL	39.0
J.J. Watt	HOU	DL	38.0
Harold Landry	TEN	LB	38.0
Robert Quinn	DAL	DL	37.0
Brandon Graham	PHI	DL	37.0
Sam Hubbard	CIN	DL	37.0
Leonard Williams	NYG	DL	36.0
Carlos Dunlap	CIN	DL	36.0
Maxx Crosby	OAK	DL	35.0
Preston Smith	GB	LB	35.0
Maliek Collins	DAL	DL	34.0
Devon Kennard	DET	LB	33.0
Chris Jones	KC	DL	33.0
Leonard Floyd	CHI	LB	33.0
Cameron Heyward	PIT	DL	32.0
Kenny Clark	GB	DL	32.0
Jerry Hughes	BUF	DL	31.0
Grady Jarrett	ATL	DL	31.0
Marcus Davenport	NO	DL	31.0
Shaq Lawson	BUF	DL	30.0
Bud Dupree	PIT	LB	30.0
Yannick Ngakoue	JAC	DL	30.0
Matt Ioannidis	WAS	DL	29.0
Justin Houston	IND	DL	29.0
Josh Allen	JAC	LB	29.0
Jason Pierre-Paul	TB	DL	29.0
Vita Vea	TB	DL	28.0
Arik Armstead	SF	DL	28.0
Whitney Mercilus	HOU	LB	28.0
Dont'a Hightower	NE	LB	28.0
Ndamukong Suh	TB	DL	28.0
Kerry Hyder	DAL	DL	28.0
Javon Hargrave	PIT	DL	28.0
Trey Hendrickson	NO	DL	27.0
Kyler Fackrell	GB	LB	27.0
Tarell Basham	NYJ	DL	26.0
Geno Atkins	CIN	DL	26.0
Derek Barnett	PHI	DL	26.0
Gerald McCoy	CAR	DL	26.0
Sheldon Richardson	CLE	DL	25.0
Vinny Curry	PHI	DL	25.0
Trent Murphy	BUF	LB	25.0
DeForest Buckner	SF	DL	25.0
Clay Matthews	LARM	LB	25.0
Jabaal Sheard	IND	DL	25.0
Takkarist McKinley	ATL	DL	25.0
Adrian Clayborn	ATL	DL	24.0
Vic Beasley Jr	ATL	LB	24.0
Frank Clark	KC	DL	24.0
Michael Bennett	DAL	DL	24.0
Samson Ebukam	LARM	LB	24.0
Mario Addison	CAR	DL	24.0
Fletcher Cox	PHI	DL	24.0
Terrell Suggs	KC	LB	24.0
Tanoh Kpassagnon	KC	DL	23.0
Vince Biegel	MIA	LB	23.0
Bruce Irvin	CAR	LB	23.0
Olivier Vernon	CLE	DL	23.0
Carl Nassib	TB	LB	23.0
Tyus Bowser	BAL	LB	22.0
Myles Garrett	CLE	DL	22.0
Ryan Kerrigan	WAS	LB	22.0
Al-Quadin Muhammad	IND	DL	21.0
Michael Brockers	LARM	DL	21.0
Maurice Hurst	OAK	DL	21.0
Quinton Jefferson	SEA	DL	21.0
Romeo Okwara	DET	LB	21.0
Denico Autry	IND	DL	21.0
Lorenzo Alexander	BUF	LB	20.0
Corey Peters	ARI	DL	20.0
Christian Wilkins	MIA	DL	20.0
Demario Davis	NO	LB	20.0
Chase Winovich	NE	DL	20.0
Haason Reddick	ARI	LB	20.0
Charles Omenihu	HOU	DL	20.0
Jurrell Casey	TEN	DL	20.0
Lorenzo Carter	NYG	LB	20.0
Carl Lawson	CIN	DL	20.0
Montez Sweat	WAS	LB	19.0
Brian Burns	CAR	LB	19.0
Stephen Weatherly	MIN	DL	19.0
Jonathan Allen	WAS	DL	19.0
Larry Ogunjobi	CLE	DL	19.0
Lavonte David	TB	LB	19.0
Benson Mayowa	OAK	DL	18.0
Henry Anderson	NYJ	DL	18.0
Jamie Collins	NE	LB	18.0
Quinnen Williams	NYJ	DL	18.0
Dexter Lawrence	NYG	DL	18.0
Ed Oliver	BUF	DL	18.0
Cameron Wake	TEN	DL	18.0
Rodney Gunter	ARI	DL	17.0
Clelin Ferrell	OAK	DL	17.0
Shelby Harris	DEN	DL	17.0
Taven Bryan	JAC	DL	17.0
Jihad Ward	BAL	DL	17.0
Jordan Jenkins	NYJ	LB	17.0
PJ Hall	OAK	DL	17.0
Jamal Adams	NYJ	DB	16.0
Aaron Lynch	CHI	LB	16.0
Kyle Phillips	NYJ	DL	16.0
Oshane Ximines	NYG	LB	16.0
Ben Banogu	IND	DL	16.0
Jaylon Ferguson	BAL	LB	16.0
Emmanuel Ogbah	KC	DL	16.0
Josh Sweat	PHI	DL	16.0
Ifeadi Odenigbo	MIN	DL	15.0
Anthony Barr	MIN	LB	15.0
Taco Charlton	MIA	DL	15.0
Grover Stewart	IND	DL	15.0
John Simon	NE	LB	15.0
Jordan Phillips	BUF	DL	14.0
Shilique Calhoun	NE	LB	14.0
Derek Wolfe	DEN	DL	14.0
Cassius Marsh	ARI	LB	14.0
D.J. Reader	HOU	DL	14.0
Ryan Anderson	WAS	LB	14.0
Jarrad Davis	DET	LB	14.0
DaQuan Jones	TEN	DL	14.0
Sheldon Rankins	NO	DL	14.0
Jordan Whitehead	TB	DB	14.0
Malik Reed	DEN	LB	14.0
Zach Kerr	ARI	DL	13.0
Alex Okafor	KC	DL	13.0
Darryl Johnson	BUF	DL	13.0
Mack Wilson	CLE	LB	13.0
David Onyemata	NO	DL	13.0
Deatrich Wise Jr	NE	DL	13.0
Justin Jones	LAC	DL	13.0
Malcolm Jenkins	PHI	DB	13.0
Adam Butler	NE	DL	13.0
Jacob Martin	HOU	LB	13.0
Uchenna Nwosu	LAC	LB	12.0
Johnathan Hankins	OAK	DL	12.0
Michael Pierce	BAL	DL	12.0
Chad Thomas	CLE	DL	12.0
Derrick Nnadi	KC	DL	12.0
Jaylon Smith	DAL	LB	12.0
Rashaan Evans	TEN	LB	12.0
Brandon Carr	BAL	DB	12.0
Roy Robertson-Harris	CHI	DL	12.0
Ezekiel Ansah	SEA	DL	12.0
William Gholston	TB	DL	12.0
Arden Key	OAK	DL	11.0
Sam Eguavoen	MIA	LB	11.0
Rasheem Green	SEA	DL	11.0
Vonn Bell	NO	DB	11.0
Dalvin Tomlinson	NYG	DL	11.0
Jordan Hicks	ARI	LB	11.0
A'Shawn Robinson	DET	DL	11.0
Morgan Fox	LARM	DL	11.0
Danny Shelton	NE	DL	11.0
BJ Hill	NYG	DL	11.0
Alec Ogletree	NYG	LB	11.0
Nathan Shepherd	NYJ	DL	11.0
Jerome Baker	MIA	LB	11.0
Sebastian Joseph-Day	LARM	DL	11.0
Steve McLendon	NYJ	DL	10.0
Earl Thomas	BAL	DB	10.0
Kevin Pierre-Louis	CHI	LB	10.0
Jeremiah Attaochu	DEN	LB	10.0
Eric Kendricks	MIN	LB	10.0
Vince Williams	PIT	LB	10.0
Brennan Scarlett	HOU	LB	10.0
Chauncey Gardner-Johnson	NO	DB	10.0
Budda Baker	ARI	DB	10.0
Jarran Reed	SEA	DL	10.0
Brian Poole	NYJ	DB	10.0
Kyle Love	CAR	DL	10.0
Tyson Alualu	PIT	DL	10.0
Matt Milano	BUF	LB	10.0
Christian Covington	DAL	DL	10.0
Marlon Humphrey	BAL	DB	10.0
Chuck Clark	BAL	DB	10.0
Daron Payne	WAS	DL	10.0
Kemoko Turay	IND	DL	10.0
Dre'Mont Jones	DEN	DL	10.0
Rashan Gary	GB	LB	10.0
Dean Lowry	GB	DL	10.0
Jack Crawford	ATL	DL	9.0
Kevin Minter	TB	LB	9.0
Bradley Chubb	DEN	LB	9.0
Tyrann Mathieu	KC	DB	9.0
Nick Kwiatkoski	CHI	LB	9.0
Nick Vigil	CIN	LB	9.0
Solomon Thomas	SF	DL	9.0
Pernell McPhee	BAL	LB	9.0
Kamalei Correa	TEN	LB	9.0
Dion Jordan	OAK	DL	9.0
Joe Schobert	CLE	LB	9.0
Zach Cunningham	HOU	LB	9.0
Jabrill Peppers	NYG	DB	9.0
Branden Jackson	SEA	DL	9.0
Dontari Poe	CAR	DL	9.0
Nick Williams	CHI	DL	9.0
Davon Godchaux	MIA	DL	9.0
Nicholas Morrow	OAK	LB	9.0
Lawrence Guy	NE	DL	9.0
Al Woods	SEA	DL	9.0
Darius Leonard	IND	LB	9.0
Justin Hollins	DEN	LB	9.0
Tyquan Lewis	IND	DL	9.0
John Jenkins	MIA	DL	9.0
Benardrick McKinney	HOU	LB	9.0
Neville Hewitt	NYJ	LB	9.0
Alexander Johnson	DEN	LB	9.0
Mike Daniels	DET	DL	8.0
Dawuane Smoot	JAC	DL	8.0
Shaquem Griffin	SEA	LB	8.0
Kiko Alonso	NO	LB	8.0
Bobby Wagner	SEA	LB	8.0
Damien Wilson	KC	LB	8.0
Jonathan Bostic	WAS	LB	8.0
Nathan Gerry	PHI	LB	8.0
Rodney McLeod	PHI	DB	8.0
Jahlani Tavai	DET	LB	8.0
Mario Edwards Jr	NO	DL	8.0
Reggie Gilbert	TEN	LB	8.0
Andrew Billings	CIN	DL	8.0
Blake Cashman	NYJ	LB	8.0
Darnell Savage	GB	DB	8.0
Landon Collins	WAS	DB	8.0
Timmy Jernigan	PHI	DL	8.0
Efe Obada	CAR	DL	8.0
Mike Purcell	DEN	DL	7.0
L.J. Fort	BAL	LB	7.0
Stephon Tuitt	PIT	DL	7.0
Shy Tuttle	NO	DL	7.0
Shawn Williams	CIN	DB	7.0
Malcom Brown	NO	DL	7.0
Daniel Sorensen	KC	DB	7.0
Dee Ford	SF	DL	7.0
Abry Jones	JAC	DL	7.0
Cole Holcomb	WAS	LB	7.0
Cory Littleton	LARM	LB	7.0
Ja'Whaun Bentley	NE	LB	7.0
Jonathan Bullard	ARI	DL	7.0
Morgan Burnett	CLE	DB	7.0
Jayon Brown	TEN	LB	7.0
Christian Jones	DET	LB	7.0
Logan Ryan	TEN	DB	7.0
Eddie Goldman	CHI	DL	7.0
Allen Bailey	ATL	DL	7.0
Tim Settle	WAS	DL	7.0
Carlos Watkins	HOU	DL	7.0
Deion Jones	ATL	LB	7.0
De'Vondre Campbell	ATL	LB	7.0
Jordan Willis	NYJ	DL	7.0
Dorance Armstrong	DAL	DL	7.0
Mike Hilton	PIT	DB	7.0
Charles Harris	MIA	DL	7.0
Vernon Butler	CAR	DL	7.0
Isaac Rochell	LAC	DL	7.0
Mychal Kendricks	SEA	LB	7.0
Andrew Brown	CIN	DL	7.0
T.J. Carrie	CLE	DB	7.0
Trent Harris	MIA	DL	7.0
Sheldon Day	SF	DL	7.0
Shaq Thompson	CAR	LB	6.0
Blake Martinez	GB	LB	6.0
Justin Coleman	DET	DB	6.0
Jerry Tillery	LAC	DL	6.0
Taron Johnson	BUF	DB	6.0
DeMarcus Walker	DEN	DL	6.0
Folorunso Fatukasi	NYJ	DL	6.0
Shamar Stephen	MIN	DL	6.0
Luke Kuechly	CAR	LB	6.0
Kenny Vaccaro	TEN	DB	6.0
Anthony Walker	IND	LB	6.0
Patrick Onwuasor	BAL	LB	6.0
Fred Warner	SF	LB	6.0
Sharif Finch	CIN	LB	6.0
Margus Hunt	IND	DL	6.0
Poona Ford	SEA	DL	6.0
Damion Square	LAC	DL	6.0
Barkevious Mingo	HOU	LB	6.0
Brandon Williams	BAL	DL	6.0
Todd Davis	DEN	LB	6.0
Porter Gustin	CLE	DL	6.0
Danny Trevathan	CHI	LB	6.0
Kendall Fuller	KC	DB	6.0
Mark Barron	PIT	LB	6.0
Carl Granderson	NO	DL	6.0
Linval Joseph	MIN	DL	6.0
Jeff Heath	DAL	DB	6.0
D.J. Hayden	JAC	DB	6.0
Caraun Reid	ARI	DL	6.0
Akiem Hicks	CHI	DL	6.0
Brandon Dunn	HOU	DL	5.0
Damontre Moore	SF	DL	5.0
Eric Reid	CAR	DB	5.0
Damon Harrison	DET	DL	5.0
Tyeler Davison	ATL	DL	5.0
Chris Wormley	BAL	DL	5.0
John Atkins	DET	DL	5.0
Buster Skrine	CHI	DB	5.0
Tashaun Gipson	HOU	DB	5.0
Jermaine Whitehead	CLE	DB	5.0
Bilal Nichols	CHI	DL	5.0
Marquis Haynes	CAR	DL	5.0
Tramaine Brock Sr	TEN	DB	5.0
Tremaine Edmunds	BUF	LB	5.0
Terrence Brooks	NE	DB	5.0
Myles Jack	JAC	LB	5.0
Brent Urban	CHI	DL	5.0
Raekwon McMillan	MIA	LB	5.0
Karl Joseph	OAK	DB	5.0
Brandon Mebane	LAC	DL	5.0
Zach Sieler	MIA	DL	5.0
Clinton McDonald	ARI	DL	5.0
Angelo Blackson	HOU	DL	5.0
LaRoy Reynolds	CIN	LB	5.0
Leon Jacobs	JAC	LB	5.0
Austin Johnson	TEN	DL	5.0
Desmond King II	LAC	DB	5.0
Ronald Blair III	SF	DL	5.0
PJ Williams	NO	DB	5.0
Jacob Tuioti-Mariner	ATL	DL	5.0
Akeem Spence	JAC	DL	5.0
Harrison Smith	MIN	DB	5.0
Nigel Bradham	PHI	LB	5.0
Christian Miller	CAR	LB	5.0

[OVCChairman]

11 hours ago, Pick6 said:

I just don’t know why anyone would give up a ton to trade for him. To me Tua looks like the guy who is one big hit away from never playing again. I don’t see long term franchise QB and he won’t be able to play in 2020. Even Tua himself has admit after this hip injury he will never be 100% of the player he was in college. 

 

Thats why detroit and miami make the most sense.. they have a starter in place for 2020

[goskins10]

16 hours ago, Pick6 said:

I just don’t know why anyone would give up a ton to trade for him. To me Tua looks like the guy who is one big hit away from never playing again. I don’t see long term franchise QB and he won’t be able to play in 2020. Even Tua himself has admit after this hip injury he will never be 100% of the player he was in college. 

 

Its the NFL draft and we are talking about QBs. Every year teams that need QBs start falling in love with the guy and they raise up the rankings. Someone will fall in love with Tua and decide they need to have him - maybe two teams or more based on potential. Don't be surprised if someone makes a major move.

 

[Anselmheifer]

 

Watch this rep from the behind the QB angle. Chase Young gets chipped by the running back, doubled by the guard and tackle, almost has his helmet ripped off by the tackle and still twists Trevor Lawrence like a pretzel. 

 

 

[Skinsinparadise]

 

 

[cakmoney61]

12 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said:

It's weird that people don't see EDGE as a need.  I found this on another forum.  These are the totals pressures in 2019 for each defender per SIS.  It's pretty damn sad how far down the list our first edge rusher is.  

 

Hmmm.  That list may be the best argument for drafting Chase Young I've seen to date.  It appears the Redskins are not as good at EDGE as we may have believed.  So we are talking about getting the consensus best player in the draft at what may, in reality, be a position of need.

[RWJ]

I believe the great majority of the NFL draft gurus/sites have Chase Young as the best available player in the entire draft.