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That will teach you to pay any attention to anyone here!! LOL

Probably both. Good move for them. But good for Buffalo too. Interesting draft for sure.

Ok, then why take Cousins at all? And at that salary? Why not just know you are drafting for the future and keep all that CAP? Get Kirk some help like Rome O or the defense which sorely needs help - That's why I drafted Dallas Turner for them. Also Penix is not young. And with him sitting at least 2 yrs, he will be 26 or if 3 27 befroe he becomes a starter. And they will have two maybe only one yr to see if they want to take his 5th yr option then they go right back to t paying big money for a QB. Again, why not forget about Kirk, draft Penix then use the exta CAP to build a team then be able to sign him when it's time. Sorry, this just makes no sense to me at all.

They should be estatic. Murphy is the best interior lineman in the draft. I believe Turner is the best Edge and really fits the Falcons D. Latu is no slouch but I had Turner just ahead of him. Makes sense they went within 3 picks of each other. So confused with Atl taking QB. Fans must be crazty with WTF!

Ok I am so confused by the Penix pick by Atlanta. I weould never have thoguht they would go QB with jsut signing KIrk. They need so much help on D and they picked a QB that will sit at least 2 yrs barring injury. Wow, just wow did I get that wrong!

Love the Paulaner!! One of my favorite beers when in Germany. That and the rest are all great selcetions! Well done getting properly prepared for this awesome ride!

The trade back up for Paul appears in a few random mock drafts. I put no stock in those. I do agree that would not be the best move but again these are just random last minute mock drafts. Paul does seem to be rising on people boards though. Not sure why. There is always a player or two that start rising a couple days before the draft and for little to no reason. All of a sudden all the work and research done is thrown out the window for a last minute man crush. Just a few more hours! I have not been this excited about the draft i na long time. In recent years I looked forward to it, but also was armed with the knowledge that whatever brain trust was in charge, the stink of owner past would **** it all up. But with this new regime we not only have competent people in the FO, the owner is not a complete nutcare POS. Maybe I disagree with who they take but at least I know they will have done thier due dilligence, and have poured over every bit of information available before coming to a team decision.

Lets see if I did this right. Untitled spreadsheet.zip If this does not work. I might be able to do file by file. But that might take more time.

Do you have Excel? I treid and it opened for me. Of course it's on my machine. I sent it through PM. Maybe try there. If not, I will ask the mods if there is way.

Lets see if this works. Here are the results I have back to 2017. Someone let me know if it works or not. I can try something else. ES_Draft_Combined_042424.xlsx

I have them. Give me a little time to put then in one file. I wil ltry to post here. If not,m then I will send DM.

Comments like this are interesting. Here are Daniels stat lines for those 3 games: Grambling - Score 72 - 10 - Daniels - 18-24 for 269 yds - 5TDs 0 int The team ran for 302 yds - he had 29 yds on 5 carries. Daniels did not finish the game. Stat padding? Not in my opnion Army - Score 62 - 0 - Daniels 11-15 for 279 tds and 3TDs He also rushed for 6 yds on 5 carries. Daniels did not finish the game. Stat padding? Not from my view. Georgia State - Score 56 - 14 - Daniels - 25-30 for 413 yds and 6 TDs He did rush for 96 yds on 10 carries. This is the only game where you could maybe say stat padding - but he only threw 30 times. Not directed at jsut you - I get the legitimate concerns about Daniels. He is not the prototyipical body you would like, especially for a running QB. But some of the statements made as facts have gotten out of hand. Like the several times people have insisted Daniels played at 180 to 190. Do you not realize how much different that weight looks like on an young athlete? I thought it was just hyperbole but several have repeated it over and over agian like it's fact in thier mind. It's NOT! LOL That is a seriously ridiculous statment to make. There seems to be a lot PTSD from RGIII. And honestly that's fair. But let's not make stuff up. He said he played at 205 and that passes the eye test. At this point I don't care which QB they select. There are enough positives and red flags for all 3 reasonable options that it's just up to the team what kind of offence they want to run and who they think will be fit that offence. Keep in mind, while we have an idea, we don't really know what kind of off Kliff wants to run here. Tomorrow evening cannot get here soon enough!

Fun little exercise here from JP Finley. I post this purely for entertainment. Not maknig any statement. It's two guys messing around. That's literally all it's worth. But again thoguht it was entertaining, especailly sicne they go past #2. I will say, as they both did, I would be really surprised if the team doesn't move back into the 1st rd for a OT. But you never know.

A pretty reasoned take on the all QBs visiting at once and Top Golf thing. Not the biggest Criag Hoffman fan but he makes some good points here. Also, I am not sure why people completly ignore several key facts: 1. Bill B. and other HCs/GMs/ FO personel have said this approach is not new. While it's not done by all teams all the time it has been used by teams before. He said in NE they used to bring in a bunch of players at once. 2. Adam Peters made it clear while they had the group time, they also made sure each player had alone time with coaches. So the idea they had no time to meet wit the players individually is just not true. Anyway, it's a more rational take than some.

that’s not what he said. He said he didn’t look into them the way he would have liked to if he knew he would have this opportunity. I agree it’s likely he didn’t come in with a favorite but he absolutely had and has a plan. And he is executing that plan. on another note I really like the group outing. You gain a lot of insight to peoples character when in group and social settings. He is looking for talent but also character fits. That includes how they interact with other players. Not directed at you, more a general statement, it be over next Thursday and the hysteria can begin in earnest! 😂😂

When I traveled fro work I did the same. 17 days in China and did not check. I did the around the world tour gonigf to CHina first, then India, then back home. gone almost a month and did not check. Luggage gets lost, schedules change, timing between different types of transportation can be tight. Just learned it's best to go light when traveling for work. Did that for 20+ yrs. I have to confess now that I am mostly traveling for fun I take what I want. 🙂

Even if they have made a decision, what does it benifit them to braodcast that decision? ALso, why make it now when the draft is next week? No saying you, but the way it's being presented is that because they have not said who they are drafting at #2, they have no idea. Why not make sure you have turned every rock before making what all would agree will be the biggest decision to be made by this FO to date and for the near future? Also, people gloss over they did this in SF. There must be a reason. There has to be some value they get out of it or Adam would not have convinced everyone it was a good idea. One thing coming out for me is Daniels camp is showing hard to get along with. That can start with the player. That is a pretty important data point. And despite that dumbass greenie's opinion, I love to take prospective employees into a social situation and see how they treat the service staff. Speaks volumes to thier character. I am Ok trusting the room until they give me reason not to.

Not at all. Players know this is bull**** season. It's all smoke and miirrors. Anyone drawing anything out of this other than the team doing due diligence is not worth having. Too weak minded. Not directed at you - just a starting point. As for the way they picked Daniels up vs the others 🙂 That is really looking for any morsel of something to give people a clue. Also, the video above with DJ says they did this type of thing in SF also. Did anyone clock who was picked up by whom? Much ado about nothing fro me. But agian, I have less of a care on who they choose. I think they are both phenmenol QBs. I also know that statistically speaking if Caleb Williams is successful, the chances of BOTH Maye and Daniels being busts is huge.

I understand what you are saying but I would phrase it slightly different - It's not that they plan to be OK with say an average starter and look for another one instead of sign them to a second much more costly contract..It's that those 15 yr franchise QBs are very hard to find. It's more a plan for the worst but hope for the best type thing. So you hopefully build your team with the idea you will get OK performance from your QB. But if you get that franchise guy you pay him and be happy. There are no certainties in this entire evaluation process. The best of experts will tell you that. So many fans think because they said someone would bust and they did, it's just obvious and they are smarter than the guys being paid. Fact is 1st rd QBs historically fail at about a 78% clip. So they had a 4 or 5 chance in being right even if they knew nothing at all. So statistically speaking of the 5 to 6 QBs likely to be taken in this years 1st rd, only 1 will be a long term starter - not a long term franchise top 5 QB, just someone who can be that Kirk Cousins type QB - never going to carry the team but is compentent enough that if you give him decent support you can win a lot of games (this was NOT to start a Kirk Cousins discussion - just making a point and using him as an example).

First, welcome to crazyland! 🙂 Very happy to have another nutcase like the rest of us! You will find the term Extreme is very much earned here, hence the very strong opinions about which QB, especially when it comes to QBs! Long tradition of taking very strong polar opposite positions. I am more in your camp though. I like Maye more but it's not lights out difference. They both do things well and they both have struggles. I was surprised at how strong Daniels legs are compared to some of the other more slight QBs. And he does know how to get down. The issue will be, will he adjust to how fast the defense is to get down fast enough early on. I think that's the problem with rookie QBs who like to run some. They misjudge how fast these DLine and LBs and anyone else can close. Howell is a good example. I think he always thought he had more time than he did and got popped a lot. Too bad, I really liked him. But Daniels is not dumb. He has 5 yrs starting experience. And yes the last one was best, but you could see steady improvement, esepcially once he got to LSU. Was that just better players? Well if so, good news all the players in the NFL are better. Seriously, it's not like we have dregs and I expect them to add more weapons no matter which QB they take. I do not see JJ as an option unless they trade down. That could make things interesting. Pick up an additional RD 1 pick and take JJ. The chances of that happening are slim and none, and slim probably just walked out the door. And that's a good thing. I prefer we stay put. But stranger things have happened. Peters is not afraid to go out on a limb. Plus he already has better relationships with the rest of the league. Who knows what sourcery he might cook up... 🙂 Again, I lean towards Maye but I am not losing my **** if they take Daniels. Have to trust the people in the room. Also, it's not like Adam Peters or any of those guys just dropped out of the sky and started looking at QBs. Several of them, especially Adam have likely been tracking these guys since middle school.

Below is the final Arizona draft. Very happy with this draft. Trade out of #4 picking up a 3rd 1st rd pick. Then trade back up from #11 only using a 3rd and late 6th to end up with Malik Nabors. Really never say that happening. Was almost tempted to take Nabors for Atlanta at #8 but really they need help on the DLine so much more than a WR. But I had to think about it. At Pick #23 we selected Chop Robinson, a very athletically elite edge rusher, another major need. With some coaching he could become a very disruptive force on the AZ dline. Our 2nd yr DC need some athletes and Chop fits that bill. I honestly really wanted to get a CB at #27. But the ones I wanted at #27 were off the board (looked I was going to drink some kool-aid until the pack stepped in.) I ended up gonig interior line. Our C is a free agent at the end of 2024. And even though the line play has been really good overall, to date the Cardinals have not signed him to any kind of extension meaning it's either find a replacement or potentially franchise tag him as even interior lineman are getting expenive. His backup is on a 1 yr deal and Jon Gaines drafted last yr in the 4th did not impress enough to not be concerned about depth here. With 3 1st rd picks I took the opportunity to go strength and look forward. Jackson Powers-Johnson This says it all much better than I could : “He’s tough, smart and strong. I just don’t overthink it with centers. When you get those elements, you usually have a starter.” - NFC scouting directo r He will at the very least provide very strong depth. How many Cs did Washington start the last 2 yrs? And could end up replacing Hjalte after this year. I got my secondary some help in the 2nd and 3rd rd with some nice players. Much of the rest was depth with what we felt was high potential. The sleeper in this draft could be WIll Shipley. After James Conner there is not much depth <400 yds and 2TD and less than 30 receptions. Will could push for RB 2 early and could play STs. We really like his potential. Overall very happy with this draft. Been lot's of fun again! I really enjoy this time of year! This group was amazing! We got done quickly! Very nice job of everyone keeping up and making thier picks in a timely manner. Special thanks to @COWBOY-KILLA- for keeping up the OP and doing the dirty work to make this draft happen! And he did a great job drafting for the Commanders (wait I think he just drafted another Oline...) @Chump Bailey deserves an honorable mention also for keeping this thing going! I am constantly amazing at the depth of knowledge you all have. This year I had more guys I wanted taken from me. I see that as I sign I am catching up a little but man you all are just so well prepared! A job truly well done!!

With pick #253 and Arizona's second final pick 🙂 - they select Keaton Bills IOL Utah @e16bball and the Rams are up

I’m on the clock. I’m out getting dinner right now. I’ll be back in about 15 minutes.

We are in the home stretch for sure. One adjustment. I have pick #253 (traded with Kdawg).