Zim489 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I think he played pretty much exactly how I expected him to play. A solid game. He was clearly the most pro ready of the top 5-7 WRs. Thats why he was taken where he was. I still have massive concerns about his ceiling compared to the others selected around him. If he ends up being the rookie of the year awesome but that doesnt prove a draft pick over a long run. Might end up being a decent to pretty good player but I dont think he'll ever be considered a top 20 WR which is pretty much what you want your WR to be talked about as a mid first rounder. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderCarson Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Zim489 said: I think he played pretty much exactly how I expected him to play. A solid game. He was clearly the most pro ready of the top 5-7 WRs. Thats why he was taken where he was. I still have massive concerns about his ceiling compared to the others selected around him. If he ends up being the rookie of the year awesome but that doesnt prove a draft pick over a long run. Might end up being a decent to pretty good player but I dont think he'll ever be considered a top 20 WR which is pretty much what you want your WR to be talked about as a mid first rounder. Yeah, I don’t agree at all. I want guys that go out there and make plays, regardless of size speed weight. Jahan will absolutely prove worthy of his draft position, did you not watch those two touchdowns he caught? In his first game ever? And it’s not like he’s some average joe athletically, he has insane body control and route running ability, 2 skills that show on tape not the combine. Awful take tbh! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Zim489 said: I think he played pretty much exactly how I expected him to play. A solid game. He was clearly the most pro ready of the top 5-7 WRs. Thats why he was taken where he was. I still have massive concerns about his ceiling compared to the others selected around him. If he ends up being the rookie of the year awesome but that doesnt prove a draft pick over a long run. Might end up being a decent to pretty good player but I dont think he'll ever be considered a top 20 WR which is pretty much what you want your WR to be talked about as a mid first rounder. Jesus, what do you think a first rounder is supposed to be? Some sort of all pro guaranteed? He was the 5th receiver taken and I'd bet all that I own if he ends up rookie of the year and very solid pro bowl but not all pro receiver he'll still be better than most of the guts drafted before him unless this ends up being the greatest receiver draft in history. First round draft picks are crap shoots just like the rest of them only you have better odds. Guy gets two touchdowns in his rookie debut and your unsatisfied, damn some people are impossible to please! 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Zim489 said: I think he played pretty much exactly how I expected him to play. A solid game. He was clearly the most pro ready of the top 5-7 WRs. Thats why he was taken where he was. I still have massive concerns about his ceiling compared to the others selected around him. If he ends up being the rookie of the year awesome but that doesnt prove a draft pick over a long run. Might end up being a decent to pretty good player but I dont think he'll ever be considered a top 20 WR which is pretty much what you want your WR to be talked about as a mid first rounder. I get what you're saying. Not quite enough top tier quick twitch or speed, but his body control and hands away from his body are clearly upper tier. His route running, and feel for coverages are pluses. At a certain point the entire basket of skills adds up to a pretty good player. Which can make up for not having some super elite physical trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, Zim489 said: Might end up being a decent to pretty good player but I dont think he'll ever be considered a top 20 WR which is pretty much what you want your WR to be talked about as a mid first rounder. I hate to break this to you…but there was nothing “decent to pretty good” about his second TD catch. That was elite. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. 😆 4 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said: I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. 😆 @Zim489 this insult was custom made for that post. Edited September 13, 2022 by Voice_of_Reason 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: What does that mean? It's he the fav or unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, Thinking Skins said: What does that mean? It's he the fav or unlikely Believe it means he's the favorite...a $100 bet would win you $500. Everyone else has higher payouts, so he's the favorite after one week. Keep it up, I say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mh86 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I’m so happy for him getting two TDs in his debut. He seems like a real genuine guy like Terry and he was also overlooked by several teams before our pick so I’m sure it means a little extra. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, redskinss said: Jesus, what do you think a first rounder is supposed to be? Some sort of all pro guaranteed? He was the 5th receiver taken and I'd bet all that I own if he ends up rookie of the year and very solid pro bowl but not all pro receiver he'll still be better than most of the guts drafted before him unless this ends up being the greatest receiver draft in history. First round draft picks are crap shoots just like the rest of them only you have better odds. Guy gets two touchdowns in his rookie debut and your unsatisfied, damn some people are impossible to please! Guaranteed? No. But in the convo for at least 10-20 in the league? Absolutely. Given his size that achievement would be extraordinary. I see almost zero chance hes an elite WR. Especially given nearly every single elite is an X. 1 hour ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said: but there was nothing “decent to pretty good” about his second TD catch. That was elite. You mean when the DB made exactly zero play on the ball? Look I like him but his production was/is to be expected. Certainly not drafted for his physicals. His ability to play now is why he was the 16th pick. If he was raw like a Christian Watson he would have been a 5th rounder. Edited September 13, 2022 by Zim489 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Zim489 said: You mean when the DB made exactly zero play on the ball? The DB was faked out by Jahan looking away from where the ball was coming from. You know like Desean Jackson used to do. I Edited September 13, 2022 by XxSpearheadxX 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, Zim489 said: Guaranteed? No. But in the convo for at least 10-20 in the league? Absolutely. Given his size that achievement would be extraordinary. I see almost zero chance hes an elite WR. Especially given nearly every single elite is an X. If he's rookie of the year he'll be in that convo. But we're getting ahead of ourselves. I think you're expectations for the 16th overall pick are absurd. If we traded multiple first round picks to move up into the top 5 then yes our expectations should be Julio Jones but at 16 what we're getting in the early reports should make anybody ecstatic and if it doesn't you need to reevaluate your expectations of the 16th overall pick. If he becomes a DeSean Jackson or a Santana moss that's a homerun. He doesn't have to become Jerry Rice or randy moss to justify the 16th pick. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan93 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Not sure if this was posted anywhere but looks like Ryan Anderson is back in the league. Good for him. Hope he does well. https://www.profootballrumors.com/2022/09/steelers-t-j-watt-will-not-require-surgery 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 So of all the hot takes I expected to see this week, ‘Jahan Dotson is just a dude doing what he’s supposed to’ wasn’t on the list. Sheesh. 🤣 3 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 52 minutes ago, Zim489 said: Guaranteed? No. But in the convo for at least 10-20 in the league? Absolutely. Given his size that achievement would be extraordinary. I see almost zero chance hes an elite WR. Especially given nearly every single elite is an X. You mean when the DB made exactly zero play on the ball? Look I like him but his production was/is to be expected. Certainly not drafted for his physicals. His ability to play now is why he was the 16th pick. If he was raw like a Christian Watson he would have been a 5th rounder. that DB could make no play for the ball, Doctson had positioned himself so any movement was contact and it becomes PI 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Jahan runs a 4.43 and has a 37 inch vertical leap. In what world is that not in the top 5% of athleticism for WRs in the NFL? Where is this garbage about Jahan being anything but a freak athlete coming from? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: So of all the hot takes I expected to see this week, ‘Jahan Dotson is just a dude doing what he’s supposed to’ wasn’t on the list. Sheesh. 🤣 @Zim489 has to hate on everything the FO and Ron does because he’s declared them completely incompetent. So when something they did looks like it’s working, it hurts his argument they are fools, short sighted and generally imbeciles. Honestly, this is 100% on brand and not even remotely surprising 8 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Thing is, with McLauren getting the extension, it pretty much means you just need Dotson to be a solid #2 or maybe even an equal to McLauren for now. For the time being McLauren is going to be getting most of the #1 DBs from each team covering him most of the time so Dotson will be lining up against the #2 or sometimes #3 maybe depending on the packages. The roster right now is loaded with talent to where even if you don't have that Top 5 world-beater WR, there are just so many viable options on any given play that it is rare there isn't going to be a mismatch when you send 3-4 out on routes and that isn't even including the TE and/or Gibson. Unlike Terry where he was drafted into a situation where he needed to evolve into "the guy" right away, Dotson has time to take his licks and develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Hands, body control, and route running are what make an elite WR and Dotson has all of those traits. If he ran a 4.3 40 or were a couple inches taller he'd have been a top 5 pick. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 This WR group is dynamic as they get and Wentz has the canon of an arm to take full advantage of it. It's pretty exciting. I love that we spread the ball around to all of our weapons, too. I think this week we'll see more deep throws early, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) Edited September 14, 2022 by BleedBNG 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 If Dotson becomes Jarvis Landry for us, I believe we will all be ecstatic. Landry has never been considered elite but the guy has made a lot of Pro Bowls What will be rare here is having 2 starting WRs with a very mature attitude. I don’t think any other team in the league has that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 That’s one stunning game winning catch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 hours ago, method man said: If Dotson becomes Jarvis Landry for us, I believe we will all be ecstatic. Landry has never been considered elite but the guy has made a lot of Pro Bowls Yes and that's a big if, at this point he could be much more, and b rob and Percy butler are just bags of cash that fell off the back of the brinks truck at this point too. If all three of these guys develop like early reports are indicating this could be one of the best trades we've ever had. I think olave is going to be a stud but if he isn't saint's fans are gonna be pretty pissed off about this one for a while. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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