The Vaccine Thread

[HogsVa7]

10 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

I did some research on whether or not you were a conservative.  The data was clear.

The data has confirmed that you assumed 

[PleaseBlitz]

[PeterMP]

48 minutes ago, RedskinsVa7 said:

Not trying to win a fight or anything like that. Just having an opinion. Like I said it will take years to really know the effects from the vaccines. How many times with anything the FDA as approved and years down the road they were wrong? Same with this situation, they don't know the effects down the road. THEY can't Predict it cause they don't know and time will only tell. 

 

We won't know until years like other vaccines that got shot down cause it wasn't safe.

 

But the same is true for Covid.  We don't know the long term effects of Covid.  Covid is affecting the brain and other organs in ways we don't normally see with a virus and in ways we don't really understand.

e.g.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-brain-coronavirus-symptom-stroke-anxiety-depression

 

(Just one example.)

 

And clearly for the vast majority of people in the short term the vaccine is better for people than getting Covid.

 

If two things have unknown long term effects and one is clearly safer in the short term why wouldn't you go with the one that is safer in the short term?

 

Can you point to another vaccine that went through large scale testing that was denied approval because they weren't safe?

Is there a vaccine that was used at a large scale that didn't show relatively short term negative effects that years later was found to be unsafe?

 

You make it sound like there is a history of there being issues with vaccines that aren't discovered until years later.

 

 

Edited May 19, 2021 by PeterMP

[PokerPacker]

1 minute ago, PeterMP said:

 

But the same is true for Covid.  We don't know the long term effects of Covid.  Covid is affecting the brain and other organs in ways we don't normally see with a virus and in ways we don't really understand.

 

Correction: We don't know all of the long term effects of COVID.  I've seen enough to know about some of them, which I definitely do not want to have, such as the brain fog and the inability to taste food.  I'll take the vaccine with no known long term effects and possibly some unknown long term effects over the virus with known long term effects and probably more long term effects.

[HogsVa7]

5 minutes ago, zskins said:

 

Man you don't know anything do you or you trying to play dumb to just troll. 

Not trolling man. Just a Washington fan and have been all my life. Going to the tailgate forum for once knowingly I will get liberal responses. 

[zCommander]

5 minutes ago, RedskinsVa7 said:

Not trolling man. Just a Washington fan and have been all my life. Going to the tailgate forum for once knowingly I will get liberal responses. 

 

You are safe then with my responses. I am not a liberal or a conservative. I hate politics all together. 

[Barry.Randolphe]

1 hour ago, RedskinsVa7 said:

Tell me from years from now though 

 

I got the Moderna vaccine back in April and the only side effect is that my penis grew an extra 3" overnight. 

[Dont Taze Me Bro]

3 hours ago, RedskinsVa7 said:

I support the people that got the vaccine and I support the people that don't want to get it. It's everyone's right to choose what they want to do. The numbers are dropping with the vaccines out. Me personally I'm not getting it and I won't until I know for sure it's safe. I'm not saying it isn't safe, but this isn't FDA approved. The FDA approved it for Emergency Use Only. It takes years for the FDA to find out Vaccines are good to go. Who knows the effects of these vaccines will do down the road? We won't know until years like other vaccines that got shot down cause it wasn't safe. I'm not going to get a vaccine for a virus with a 99.7 Survival rate that they just made within a year time if that.

 

It's safe.

 

[TheGreatBuzz]

2 hours ago, RedskinsVa7 said:

Your playing Russian Roulette too by getting the vaccine. 

*You’re

 

Now that we have addressed that, can you provide some of the resources that you have reviewed that has caused you concern?  And what makes you trust those sources more than the sources that say the vaccine is safe?  That may help make for a better quality discussion.

[Dont Taze Me Bro]

2 hours ago, RedskinsVa7 said:

Your playing Russian Roulette too by getting the vaccine. 

 

[Dont Taze Me Bro]

38 minutes ago, Barry.Randolphe said:

 

I got the Moderna vaccine back in April and the only side effect is that my penis grew an extra 3" overnight. 

 

So how does it feel slinging that 4 inches around?  

[mcsluggo]

3 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said:

I hope people that won’t get it do the right thing and continue to isolate themselves so they don’t spread it. I’m sure they will. 

 

I just hope they ****ing die.   that improves the vaccination rate (amongst survivors) just as much.  

 

die, ****ers.   die

[mcsluggo]

Edited May 19, 2021 by mcsluggo
peace and harmony

[Barry.Randolphe]

40 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

 

So how does it feel slinging that 4 inches around?  

 

[bearrock]

4 hours ago, RedskinsVa7 said:

Tell me from years from now though 

 

Take the most disastrous consequence of a recalled vaccine in US history (or combine them all if you'd like) and compare that to how many people will die over the next few years from covid without a vaccine.  Then imagine how much higher the death toll would be without a shutdown.  

 

So for you to conclude that the risk of an unknown long term risk outweighs the risk of toll from mounting covid death and illness over several years, I would imagine that you fall under one or more of the below:

 

1) you are way overblowing the potential of long term covid vaccine risk without justifiable suspicion or historical comparison

 

2) you do not believe the reported death toll to anyway closely approximate the actual deaths caused by covid

 

3) you feel it is unnecessary to get vaccinated because you think sufficient percentage of the public will get vaccinated for you to take advantage of the protective effect without you taking the vaccine.

 

None of the three puts you in a very good light imo.

 

Have you been following recommended covid protocol such as masking and distancing?  Given that you won't be taking the vaccine for at least several years, will you continue to mask and distance or will you go back to pre pandemic behavior?  Or do you think getting covid is no big deal?

Edited May 19, 2021 by bearrock

[China]

About 60% of American adults have had at least one dose of Covid-19 vaccine, including more people of color

 

The US has reached a "landmark day" in the Covid-19 pandemic as 60% of American adults have gotten at least one dose of a coronavirus vaccine, the director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said.

 

In addition, more than 3.5 million people ages 12 to 17 have received their first dose, Dr. Rochelle Walensky said.

And more people of color are getting vaccinated -- marking "encouraging national trends," said White House Covid-19 Response Team senior adviser Dr. Marcella Nunez-Smith.

In the past two weeks, 51% of those vaccinated in the US were people of color. That's higher than the 40% of the general population these groups represent.

 

Click on the link for the full article

[Larry]

I think we should encourage him to keep trolling.  

 

Think of it as voter suppression.  

Edited May 19, 2021 by Larry

[skinsmarydu]

My mom's a retired nurse, she got the vax asap. That's my research. Period. 

 

As soon as I was eligible, got it. 

[Skinsfan1311]

Good news on the home front.    Mrs. Skinsfan is finally going to be vaccinated, and has an appointment for the first Pfizer shot on Friday.

She was very hesitant. 

 Not because she's an "anti-vaxxer", or her distrust in government, (which is real), but because she's prone to getting side affects from almost everything.   Without going into detail, we've made emergency room visits based on reactions from different medicines/shots/etc, that she's been prescribed.   

 

When you see those list of side affects, that scroll at the end of drug commercials, we pay very close attention to them, as it seems that she's susceptible to them.  it was scary as Hell seeing the veins in her hands turn black and creep up her arms, as the result of reaction to an antibiotic.   Her sister is the same way...penicillin almost killed her and the flu shot put her down for a week.   Her fear is real.

 

That being said, she had a heart-to-heart with our family doctor, (of 25 + years), and he told her to get the vaccine. She's nervous about it, but is getting vaccinated, nonetheless.

 

Fingers crossed!!

[LadySkinsFan]

Sending woo to Mrs. Skinsfan that she has a good outcome. Glad that you are prepared for any eventuality.

[bearrock]

38 minutes ago, Skinsfan1311 said:

Good news on the home front.    Mrs. Skinsfan is finally going to be vaccinated, and has an appointment for the first Pfizer shot on Friday.

She was very hesitant. 

 Not because she's an "anti-vaxxer", or her distrust in government, (which is real), but because she's prone to getting side affects from almost everything.   Without going into detail, we've made emergency room visits based on reactions from different medicines/shots/etc, that she's been prescribed.   

 

When you see those list of side affects, that scroll at the end of drug commercials, we pay very close attention to them, as it seems that she's susceptible to them.  it was scary as Hell seeing the veins in her hands turn black and creep up her arms, as the result of reaction to an antibiotic.   Her sister is the same way...penicillin almost killed her and the flu shot put her down for a week.   Her fear is real.

 

That being said, she had a heart-to-heart with our family doctor, (of 25 + years), and he told her to get the vaccine. She's nervous about it, but is getting vaccinated, nonetheless.

 

Fingers crossed!!

 

Best of luck to Mrs. Skinsfan!  I know I give as much flack to people who don't get vaccinated as anyone on here, but I do understand that there are people who have legitimate medical concerns about the vaccine specific to them (not some general uncertain fear, but a concrete concern based on medical history and condition like your wife).  I have a close relative who came down with Guillain Barre as a child and she struggled very hard with the decision and consulted her doctor and a specialist before deciding that she wanted to take the vaccine.  Luckily, she had nothing more than a sore arm after the second shot.

 

Sounds like your wife did the right thing by consulting and having an in depth discussion with her doctor that she trusts and I hope everything goes swimmingly for her.  Fingers crossed!

[abdcskins]

Second Pfizer shot definitely kicked my ass. Got it yesterday, been cold feverish and achy all day. Hoping to sleep it off tonight.

[Long n Left]

23 hours ago, RedskinsVa7 said:

I support the people that got the vaccine and I support the people that don't want to get it. It's everyone's right to choose what they want to do. The numbers are dropping with the vaccines out. Me personally I'm not getting it and I won't until I know for sure it's safe. I'm not saying it isn't safe, but this isn't FDA approved. The FDA approved it for Emergency Use Only. It takes years for the FDA to find out Vaccines are good to go. Who knows the effects of these vaccines will do down the road? We won't know until years like other vaccines that got shot down cause it wasn't safe. I'm not going to get a vaccine for a virus with a 99.7 Survival rate that they just made within a year time if that.

Always enjoy the entertainment value of these every few months drive-by’s from people with painted faces, round red noses, big ass shoes, and driving a VW bug.

[skinny21]

4 hours ago, abdcskins said:

Second Pfizer shot definitely kicked my ass. Got it yesterday, been cold feverish and achy all day. Hoping to sleep it off tonight.

 

7 hours ago, Skinsfan1311 said:

Good news on the home front.    Mrs. Skinsfan is finally going to be vaccinated, and has an appointment for the first Pfizer shot on Friday.

She was very hesitant. 

 Not because she's an "anti-vaxxer", or her distrust in government, (which is real), but because she's prone to getting side affects from almost everything.   Without going into detail, we've made emergency room visits based on reactions from different medicines/shots/etc, that she's been prescribed.   

 

 

Purely anecdotal, but my wife and I were a bit nervous about the second Pfizer shot, so we drank a lot of water before and after and both felt fine.  
I’m certainly not claiming that it made a difference, but I’d say it doesn’t hurt to try it.  
 

My two older boys get their first shot tmrw, can’t wait for my youngest to be eligible!

Edited May 20, 2021 by skinny21

[PokerPacker]

1 hour ago, skinny21 said:

 

Purely anecdotal, but my wife and I were a bit nervous about the second Pfizer shot, so we drank a lot of water before and after and both felt fine.  
I’m certainly not claiming that it made a difference, but I’d say it doesn’t hurt to try it.  
 

My two older boys get their first shot tmrw, can’t wait for my youngest to be eligible!

CVS did recommend drinking a ton of water before my second shot of Moderna.  Still felt like ass the next day, but Moderna's got stronger side effects.