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I don't put faith in them; I get to know them. The more I get to know the people I work with, the more topics of conversation open up as I learn what topics are safe to discuss around them. There's always a bit of a feeling out period. Discussing with your manager? Sure, depending on who your manager is. My manager is pretty transparent about our salary and how it works. I don't think he's supposed to be, but he's got our backs as much as he can. Not too long ago, when the topic turned to our yearly raises, he made an off-hand comment along the lines of "I don't know how they expect to keep developers like you." I think a lot of people will be considering new employment opportunities when he retires. It's quite possible that the tech world is very different. It may have a lot more people who are more interested in programming and computers than learning how to be ruthless negotiators, and tend to be more deferential in "negotiation" (I put that in quotes because I don't think there's much mutual negotiation) so they get exploited by the HR/Management who negotiate for a living and want to pay as little as possible. There's a reason the average time between job changes is 1-2 years. If you wanna get paid, you gotta find a new employer. As for the t-shirt, mine would say "Who's got two thumbs and is underpaid?"

What a dork.

Of course managers are going to preach that nothing good comes of discussing salary. There's little good that can come from it for the company while there are numerous downsides for them, thus it is bad for managers to have their employees discussing salary. But I don't buy the argument that it's bad for everyone. As an employee, especially early on in a career when figuring out your worth, it is immensely helpful to be able to discuss salaries amongst your peers to get an idea of what you are worth by comparing their salaries with their experience and expertise, and how that relates to your own value. And if all of the people involved are mature and reasonable adults, then the possible personal downsides should be rather unlikely. I've discussed salary with some of my current co-workers and teammates (I currently work on a team with people who have an employer different than my own), and there's no jealousy to be seen. We confide in each other, commiserate our salaries, and encourage each other to get better paying jobs rather than being upset at how much someone else is making. Of course none of this is good for our employers, but I definitely feel I've gotten positive value out of it.

I hear VA is the new FL.

I disagree. Nothing good comes of it for the company. For the employees, it gives them a good idea of their value to help them negotiate in the future (if not for their current employer, prospective future employers).

Dude... it has slopes. SLOPES!

Between legs day.

Seriously. I don't understand how nothing came of it forever ago.

Super Mario Maker 2 is happening in June.

Is he a proctologist?

What is a money laundering blacklist? Does the being an EU member come with a money laundering service?

You are confusing electrical engineers with computer scientists. It was actually pretty interesting, as a Computer Engineer, to observe the stark difference in personality of the general Comp Sci students I'd have classes with versus the EE students I'd have classes with. I don't think one will do it. You'll have to fill the entire back seat with 'em like a ball pit and let him dive in like Scrooge McDuck.

When you're an electrical engineer, everything is possible!

If I recall my history classes, indentured servitude was, indeed, a thing in the early days of the new world.

If they can be as decent as Gordon Ramsey, they must have problems.