TheGreatBuzz

That bridge was always a racetrack when I lived there. Had a '66 GTO that made it difficult to blend in.

False. They aren't feasible for some at most. Many they just aren't as attractive. Community college for first two years, in-state school, going to school where can stay with family, etc.... Can we talk about the amount of scholarships that go unused again?

Do you actually think that is the *only option for affordable college currently available? Edit: meant to include the word "only" in the initial post.

Well I wasn't so much looking for specific numbers just pointing out that it happens and nothing is going to be perfect. Is your position that a death row inmate hasn't killed/raped another person once being on death row? Because if so, here is a case I found with a 5 second search. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/06/san-quentin-death-row-inmate-allegedly-killed-by-another-condemned-prisoner

And some will kill just for fun or because they want to for another reason. No matter what path taken, there will always be collateral damage. There is no acceptable number of deaths of innocents but a lack of perfection should not be a barrier to acting. As long as we are striving for perfection. Also, for the case in question and others like it (no question of guilt, lack of remorse, gruesome-ness, etc) there needs to be a way to expedite execution and keep costs down. One appeal and then gun to the back of the head.

I want Biden for one turn. Someone who knows the ropes day one. Someone who can walk in and know how to turn the lights on. (Did trumps team ever figure that out?)

Since they are ALMOST always, that means some aren't. What number of other inmates, guards, etc are fine with being raped/killed by those that would have been executed? Is it higher or lower than the number of people wrongly executed?

Note I said free, not affordable. Freedom isn't free. Neither is college. More training in debt and finances should be included in high school. I could consider refinancing them to a lower rate like 2% I'd consider. But that's my line.

So something else you have in common with GPS besides providing directions.....

Wife and I took a vacation a few years ago to southern Florida. Turned off the GPS and grabbed a map. Only rule was not interstates.

I'm with you until the last line. I'd probably go 3rd party again. People learn different things in college. A lot of people hopefully learned not to borrow money you can't pay back. Want free college? Earn a GI Bill. I'm still catching up on the rest of the thread.

Elections have consequences. Thanks Obama.

Another thread to show how ****ing stupid our society has become. C'mon Darwin, you got some work to do.

I’m not a fan of the title of the thread but couldn’t come up with anything better. Anyways, I know I have mentioned it before as has @Bang and a few others. I guess it is a broad topic so we will see how the thread goes. So, with the current level of discourse between “the two sides” (for lack of a better term), how do you see it all playing out in the end? Do you think we will see any large-scale violence before things get better? Civil War? A Constitutional Crisis that gets fixed without any blood shed and we all go on our merry way? Does our country survive it? If so, what comes after? Do we lose a few states? Does a foreign power take advantage during our time of weakness? Does the country stay whole but we see a major overhaul of how government operates, like new constitution level? What will the military be told to do and will they do it? And once that is answered, what (if anything) do you plan to do about it or what will you do if/when it comes? I’m not talking full blown Doomsday Prepper, unless you are in to that which is fine by me. I actually know a few people like that. To each their own. Me? I think we will see large scale violence at some point. I think it is highly unlikely we will get through all this without bloodshed on some large scale. I suspect it will be around the time of the next election. Either Dems pick up enough seats to impeach Trump before the election, Trump loses the election but claims fraud and refuses to leave the White house, or Trump wins the Electoral College but loses popular vote again at which point the Left gets pissed off enough that violence starts. Whichever it is, I think will be the trigger. I used to say the chances of this happening were around 10% which is far higher than I ever wanted it to be. Five years ago, I would have said 0.0001% chance that something like that would ever happen. Now I think I put it a lot closer to 50% which kinda scares the crap out of me. Would it be organized enough to be a civil war? I doubt it at the beginning but depending on how it played out, I could see it ending that way. Would our country survive it? I don’t think we would intact. I could see Texas and/or California saying kick rocks and trying to become their own nation. Possibly a group of states in the Northeast also. I don’t think any foreign powers would get too involved because we still have nukes and at that point might not have anything else to lose. I think they would wait until it is about over and come in to see who they can make friends with while making it clear we are no longer the leaders of the free world. So, what have I done to plan for it? Not much. My wife and I have talked (or more accurately drunkenly muttered) what we would do if the world went full on Walking Dead. That is about the limits of my plans. I do have some things to fall back on but they are pretty much my hurricane/accident/whatever kits. I always have a change of clothes and boots in my vehicle. That is mostly because I have seen enough cars broken down on the side of the road that I know I want to be prepared if I had to walk several miles. I usually have enough food and water that I could go a good few weeks if I absolutely had to. And of course, I have several guns and ammo. That is more as a hobby though. But it does scare me that it is people on the Right that have more guns and are more proficient with them in general. I don’t expect them to be too useful in a time like that. Firing a gun just lets everyone know you have one. And they probably have bigger ones or more of them. My wife still lives in Florida and I am up in Virginia. We did actually have a talk when I moved. Sadly, I felt it was necessary as Trump had just been elected. She knows to hide out in the house and that I will do everything I can to get there. So what are your thoughts? Think that I am crazy for even thinking about this? Then say so respectfully and move on. Are you building a bunker in your back yard because you think Trump, Jr, Eric, and Ivanka are really the 4 horsemen? That would be interesting but I won’t laugh. Do you think there won’t be any violence? If so, how do you see it all playing out considering the divide in our country that seems to only be getting bigger? Anyways, I thought it was an interesting topic. We’ll see how it goes.

Sacks, any updates to this list?

I totally understand. I'm quite proficient with a firearm and have no intention of trying to be Jack Bauer if something bad happened. Also, and I mean no offense by this but I think you what what I mean also, I feel a lot more comfortable carrying because I am white. This is probably enough of a derail though.

That day has long past for me. I used to carry about 50% of the time when I am not on base. I'd say I'm at about 95% of the time now. Whether it is random or targeted violence, the country is a dangerous place to walk around in right now.

Go read the twitter posts that @The Evil Genius made in the Fixing The Republican Party thread by the Washington state legislator. And read the threads below them. Still sticking with your predictions? EDIT: Why did they get rid of the post numbers? It made it so much easier to refer to a specific post. And I don't know how to quote a post in a different thread.

And yet some still think this will all get resolved without violence (re: the society thread).

Holy ****.

Hope you're right.

So what is your prediction? Look at not only trump but society in general. What do you see happening over the next few years?

I absolutely think he will leave office. It's a matter of how. And how his mouth breathing supporters will react. Though if he gets one more spot on the SC I could see him finding a way to at least delay leaving.

What the ****????

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