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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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YOUNG SHANNY IS COMING, AND IT AIN'T GONNA BE PRETTY

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13 hours ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Rather simple, really.  Most of us despise Dan and Bruce and really have no power to make them feel the same level of disgust.  So we look to guys like Kyle, Kirk, whomever, to make them feel as bad as they make us feel.  Hurt people, hurt people.

 

Yeah, well that's some **** **** , honestly. Not wanting us to struggle but in epic fashion against our old guys.

 

I understand the rationale, wanting to keep Dan and Bruce humiliated to the max. I hate Dan and Bruce too, about as much as anyone can I suppose. However, Redskins fans giddy to see Kyle and Kirk beat us by 50 are about as pathetic as Dan and Bruce themselves.

 

There's other guys that are working hard that deserve support, if not for the win than to not be putting it on the line to be a national embarrassment. That's a pretty crappy culture that the fans do have power for. I'm as whatever and hopeless as ever on Dan's "reign" over the Skins but why would I root for the same guys that I want to get destroyed week in and week out? 

 

Just keep losing but for those who had some sort of personal investment in ALL of the bull**** shenanigans, which we the fans surely did, you want us to get stomped by those same guys who had us on pins and needles in various measures? We're talking things like our most prolific passer in recent years winning a business war and jetting, a young brilliant offensive mind playing some espionage with "The Redskins (not just Dan" in tow with his daddy.

 

I sure as hell don't want to get buried by those guys even if I prefer the loss

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As I said here when all of it was over, I ultimately blame Snyder for making those hirings and enabling that culture, same as he enables every other rot gutting thing eating this franchise from the inside out. 

 

Who in their right mind thinks a HC-OC father son duo is gonna work on a state champ level HS football team, let alone an NFL team. Then the "ShannyLeaks," and other nonsense....

 

Shanahan was washed, and Snyders moronic desperation just gave him everything he wanted. Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

 

 

 

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In the battle of douchebags, one guy was here 4 years and overall has proven to be really good at his job.  One the other side, you have 30 years between Dan and Bruce, who have brought me more hell than the Shanny’s could ever bring, and are both terrible at their jobs. So yeah, nothing anyone can say about Kyle being a douche would change how I view this matchup.

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Is Kyle known to be a douche in his other stops? He certainly looks kinda jerkish but I can certainly see how coming here would bring out the worst in you.

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But since results are not lacking Gary Fitzgerald can maybe try to figure out why a dozen coaches or more who were successful elsewhere can't do anything while working for the Redskins.

 

It's rocket science apparently.

 

 

 

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Fitzgerald has a problem with people who aren't willing to be his steady "source". I guess he must mean that Kyle didn't help create a positive culture for journalistic sourcing. Nothing wrong with being arrogant if you can back it up and deliver. When you can't, that means you're delusional, i.e., your initials are probably B.A., D.S., or you're the current HC of the Jets.

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On 10/19/2019 at 8:58 AM, Mr. Sinister said:

As I said here when all of it was over, I ultimately blame Snyder for making those hirings and enabling that culture, same as he enables every other rot gutting thing eating this franchise from the inside out. 

 

Who in their right mind thinks a HC-OC father son duo is gonna work on a state champ level HS football team, let alone an NFL team. Then the "ShannyLeaks," and other nonsense....

 

Shanahan was washed, and Snyders moronic desperation just gave him everything he wanted. Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

 

 

 

I kinda disagree a little bit.  Mike and Kyle were very well paired and they could have success here except for 3 major issues.  1 of which was under their control, 2 less so.

 

1.  Mike Shanahan has absolutely no idea how to put together a defense.  He flipped through DCs in Denver like candy, then stuck with Haz In DC. From personnel to scheme to coaching, he was clueless. 

 

2. The whole salary cap penalty debacle.  That was a huge issue and seriously effected the roster.

 

3. Everything about the entitlement and support of Griffin.  Mike and Kyle put Griffin the absolute best possible scenario to succeed.  Griffin lied about his injury, said he wouldn’t run parts of the scheme, and the owner let him.

 

They really could have had success.  And Kyle was probably getting a HC job in 2014 or 2015 anyway if the Skins had continues to play well offensively.  Let’s say they start Cousins in 2013 until Griffin was actually ready and then they are able to run a similar offense to 2012.  They would have, most likely, been successful. 

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Todays rain will help jettison the playbook copying Kyle back to the security of the beavers lap.

 

We just need a mole to sabotage all the 9ers cleats.

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3 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

Todays rain will help jettison the playbook copying Kyle back to the security of the beavers lap.

 

We just need a mole to sabotage all the 9ers cleats.

I know Fedex is a ****ty surface to play on, but didn't realise molehills were an issue these days 😉

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1 hour ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

It aint pretty, but those conditions favor the Skins.

The Skins perfected the ability to play well in the slop and the mud.

 

They haven't perfected it enough.

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Callahan is an idiot. Running two straight times on that last possession was truly idiotic. A. Doesn’t know his defense or the moron coaching his defense who will inevitably give up a long drive and long 3rd down conversions.  B. It burnt clock, made the game shorter.  
 

I’m really sick of these coaches with their own “style” that they force on their team no matter the personnel.  He really felt they might score more than 3 points like that?

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I guess Callahan deserves credit for making the games shorter so the final score might look less aesthetically awful.  
 

Montez Sweat is a bust.  I think the rest of the league didn’t draft him In the first round for reasons not just related to his heart. 

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What a joke. This was Kyle's Superbowl today

 

Look in the mirror man. You guys trotted out John Beck as QB in 2011 and had Jim Haslett as DC

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On 10/19/2019 at 6:55 AM, Andre The Giant said:

 

 

Fwiw, BMitchell said similiar.

 

He was an arrogant, entitled jerk who was good at his job.

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On 10/19/2019 at 8:04 AM, dyst said:

Is Kyle known to be a douche in his other stops? He certainly looks kinda jerkish but I can certainly see how coming here would bring out the worst in you.


This is what everyone who likes to point out the flaws of these people miss. 
 

Guess what? Everyone who comes here will be human and will therefore have faults. 
 

Guess what happens here, virtually every single damn time outside of a few anomalies who happened to be shielded under the span of control of someone competent? 
 

Those flaws get highlighted, the strengths diminished, and the cycle repeats. The longer they stay the more pronounced this effect. 
 

At this point, I have zero sympathy for anyone still wanting to point those flaws out, attempting to distribute the blame as if they know the half of it. It’s nonsense. 
 

“It starts at the top” is not some empty statement or overly emphasized cliche. It is simply the obvious truth. 
 

The only thing pertinent to focus on is trying to figure out why it perpetually happens to everyone here and why the environment consistently sets people up to fail miserably. Why the organizational structure, which is supposed to be a support system at its essence that elevates (and allows for growththose who enter into it, consistently does the total opposite here. 

 

Those are the results, that should be the focus.

When done right, and as we’ve seen with many consistently successful organizations, otherwise unknowns or inexperienced hires or people with generally a lot to improve upon get to grow, improve, progress, and begin to flex their creative capacities at the highest of levels. And success almost always follows as a result. 

 

Pointing out what the people hired here eventually did as they regressed like the vast majority do is such a waste of time it’s disgusting. 
 

But then so is caring enough about it to post at all, so hey, I guess we’re all in the same Snyder Yacht. 

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Good for Kyle on winning and giving his dad the game ball. Good on him to make a point to suggest his dad was mistreated. I believe him 100% over this team. Snyder and Allen are assholes. It wasn’t Shannahan who leaked SMC started drinking, it wasn’t Shannahan who leaked that video of Jay drunk and it wasn’t Shannahan who held a press conference to detail the contract details put forth to Kirk. These clowns are assholes.

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19 hours ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said:

He was an arrogant, entitled jerk who was good at his job.

 

How does that compare to arrogant, entitled jerks who are terrible at their jobs?

 

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