NoCalMike Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 The 'Skins don't owe Cravens anything. If the guy still wants to play football, he should expect to be suiting up for the 'Skins unless another team is willing to go above & beyond for his services. He shouldn't just be given away for a late round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky52Mc Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, NoCalMike said: The 'Skins don't owe Cravens anything. If the guy still wants to play football, he should expect to be suiting up for the 'Skins unless another team is willing to go above & beyond for his services. He shouldn't just be given away for a late round pick. I don't think that it's such a black and white issue. He let a lot of people down and many of his teammates no longer have respect for him. That's also apparent by his recent tweet in which he states something along the lines of "only the real teammates who have been with me will get invited to my camp!". I guarantee you Swearinger and Norman are relatively pissed off at him for "bailing" on the squad. There's a little more to this than brain / body injuries, Cravens is at the best very immature and at worst mentally unstable. If he wants to play football there's a good chance it isn't here. If the internal conversation is in agreement that he's a lost cause then a 7th is better than 0 everyday of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Bold prediction. Denver trades their 3rd round compensatory pick for Cravens on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Here's what Denver offered in trade: Here is Bruce Allen's demand: So they're really not that close yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 given the two, i'll take the Now and Laters. Even banana flavored. Truth,, when i saw that, my fillings hurt. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, Bang said: given the two, i'll take the Now and Laters. Even banana flavored. Truth,, when i saw that, my fillings hurt. ~Bang Coors Light is to beer what Vitamin Water is to sports drinks LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, -JB- said: Coors Light is to beer what Vitamin Water is to sports drinks LOL How you gonna insult Vitamin Water like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, NewCliche21 said: How you gonna insult Vitamin Water like that? Cause it’s just as gross as Coors Light ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFK Lives Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Wow, Now and Laters, that is a throwback...maybe some Fun Dip. Did they call it Now and Later because you chewed it now and later on, like 3 days later, you were still picking it from the back of your teeth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Acre Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Someone brought some bags of Pop Rocks into the office kitchen area today. It must be 1978 all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 From what little I know about what happened behind the scenes, how his teammates feel, where his head is at ... I would prefer to keep him unless a team offers a 3rd rounder. Which seems like this is exactly what the team is doing. No rush, no pressure to make a move. He is a 2nd round talent with questionable mental make up. Sucks, I was intrigued by this kid. Thats what he is ... a kid making things harder than they have to be bc he is a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFK Lives Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I would take a 5th or better, I might consider a 6th. The reason being, is our locker room strong enough and does it have enough leadership to work through the events of last year? I would like to hope so but if I were betting money, I would say no. With the departure of Niles Paul and Ryan Grant and others that contributed on special teams, we could use him but is he the type to shy away from that believing he is high profile starter, which I don't think he is but just given what we have seen from his actions and heard from his statements, he thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 hours ago, RFK Lives said: I would take a 5th or better, I might consider a 6th. The reason being, is our locker room strong enough and does it have enough leadership to work through the events of last year? I would like to hope so but if I were betting money, I would say no. With the departure of Niles Paul and Ryan Grant and others that contributed on special teams, we could use him but is he the type to shy away from that believing he is high profile starter, which I don't think he is but just given what we have seen from his actions and heard from his statements, he thinks he is. I'd hold him if the offers are that low. Let the kid play even if the environment isn't 100% comfortable for him. You can't get pennies on the dollar 2 years after drafting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 IF a trade happens, I think it will be on draft day too. For what? We will find out, IF it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, TD_washingtonredskins said: I'd hold him if the offers are that low. Let the kid play even if the environment isn't 100% comfortable for him. You can't get pennies on the dollar 2 years after drafting him. That's a tough one. The question is not whether it's uncomfortable for him, but whether it's good for the team to have him there. Or is his mere presence going to be a distraction and is there going to be disdain with him being there. I honestly don't care about his feelings as much as I do making sure we don't have a guy in the locker room who's going to somehow be divisive. Even if all of his issues are behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: That's a tough one. The question is not whether it's uncomfortable for him, but whether it's good for the team to have him there. Or is his mere presence going to be a distraction and is there going to be disdain with him being there. I honestly don't care about his feelings as much as I do making sure we don't have a guy in the locker room who's going to somehow be divisive. Even if all of his issues are behind him. No I get it, but let's actually think that through...how much of a distraction can it really be? These are adults playing football. Are they going to melt down because one of the guys was going through something last year and abandoned them? It might just need to be explained to any leaders with an issue that this is what the organization needs to do in order to avoid losing yet another asset for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 hours ago, GothSkinsFan said: Someone brought some bags of Pop Rocks into the office kitchen area today. It must be 1978 all over again. I would happily trade him for pop rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, RWJ said: IF a trade happens, I think it will be on draft day too. For what? We will find out, IF it happens. Which day of the draft is the question. I don't see us trading up, so Su'a wouldn't be part of a day 1 trade. Maybe a day 2 trade to move up to Denvers 2nd rounder? If (yes, big if here) we sign Hankins...I'd love to try to get Will Hernandez at LG early in the 2nd if he makes it past day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, bowhunter said: Which day of the draft is the question. I don't see us trading up, so Su'a wouldn't be part of a day 1 trade. Maybe a day 2 trade to move up to Denvers 2nd rounder? If (yes, big if here) we sign Hankins...I'd love to try to get Will Hernandez at LG early in the 2nd if he makes it past day 1. Have no idea. I'm just guessing right now. If I had to guess it might be a swap of picks in the 4th or 5th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 We'll ship him out before the players are due back, whenever that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 52 minutes ago, TD_washingtonredskins said: No I get it, but let's actually think that through...how much of a distraction can it really be? These are adults playing football. Are they going to melt down because one of the guys was going through something last year and abandoned them? It might just need to be explained to any leaders with an issue that this is what the organization needs to do in order to avoid losing yet another asset for nothing. I get the feeling that trust is a huge component of this game, you've got to trust a guy to be in position, etc. and if you don't have that trust, it's an issue. I don't think it would be all junior high or anything, but a rift in the DB room is not something you want. At all. Don't forget, most of these guys are in their 20's, and grudges can sometimes die hard. They did for me when I was in my 20's. Hell, I still hold a few of them, and that was 20 years ago... chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 For the record, the only player I’ve personally heard has a problem with welcoming Su’a back into the locker room is DHall and what he says others think. Every other player I’ve heard has been supportive and says they’d welcome him back. Interesting given it’s rumored that the beef here is between Bruce and Su’a. The way I see it is you let the guy come in and earn a spot before you take next to nothing for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ashburn Dave Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 He's burned the trust bridge down so he's got to go. Our locker room just got better with swapping out QB so no way you can bring this unstable situation back. Sure hope we get something in return and would settle for something fruity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 A Now and Later unexpectedly took a tooth of mine. I think the tooth fairy got them both. Here's the latest offer on the table - I will throw in 2 cigars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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