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The Sewer That Is The GOP: With All The White Supremacists, Conspiracy Nutters, And Other Malicious Whacko Subgroups, How Does It Get Fixed?


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43 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

Nothing. They're fully hooked and mainlining at this point...they're True Believers. You'd probably have better luck convincing hardcore religious fundamentalists that their worldview is wrong. 


If there truly is no line I await the day they pass around donation dishes like at church and instruct them to either put in their credit cards or their jewelry lol

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14 minutes ago, Llevron said:


If there truly is no line I await the day they pass around donation dishes like at church and instruct them to either put in their credit cards or their jewelry lol

 

:ols:  Good idea.

 

Though I'm guessing a fair number of Trump's cult members have probably already maxed out their credit cards to give him money. Jewelry would definitely be a next step.

 

Personally, I'm kinda hoping they bypass all that and jump straight to the Kool-Aid.

 

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Fox News is a loaded gun aimed at American democracy

 

The Republican Party, Fox News, and the broader right-wing disinformation apparatus that revolves around them have responded to Donald Trump’s 2020 defeat by institutionalizing his lie that the election was stolen and laying the groundwork to rig the next presidential election in favor of the GOP.

 

Fox is a primary source of information for the party’s voters and a key Republican power base. That would make the network crucial to the future success of an antidemocratic GOP plot, just as it was when Trump tried to overturn the election in 2020. And Fox’s propagandists appear eager to try again in 2024, relentlessly casting doubt on the 2020 results while helping to push out Republicans who refuse to support the party’s authoritarian turn. 

 

They are positioning the country on the brink of the abyss. Next time, political conditions may prove favorable enough to end the American experiment in electoral democracy.

 

Trump tried a coup in broad daylight — and Fox had his back.
Fox spent decades stoking the right’s antidemocratic attitudes. Its commentators relentlessly highlighted and exaggerated extremely rare instances of voter fraud, priming their audiences to believe that Democrats were constantly trying to steal elections. They traditionally used those conspiracy theories to promote policies that make it more difficult to vote -- particularly for core Democratic demographics. 

 

But Trump’s authoritarian drive shifted that coverage in a more dangerous direction. 

 

The then-president spent the months leading up to the election baselessly warning that the vote had been “rigged” by Democrats planning to “steal” it through mail-in voting, and his Fox propagandists echoed his conspiracy theories.

 

That seditious conspiracy to shatter the American democratic system relied on the impermeability of the right-wing information bubble. Trump needed his supporters, many of whom get their information almost solely from the elaborate disinformation network of partisan media outlets that Republican leaders propped up in place of mainstream outlets, to believe that the election had been rigged against him.

 

Fox and its associates did everything they could to support Trump’s autocratic maneuvers.

 

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3 hours ago, Llevron said:


If there truly is no line I await the day they pass around donation dishes like at church and instruct them to either put in their credit cards or their jewelry lol


Just pointing out, signing them up for monthly deductions from their bank accounts without telling them, didn't cause them to leave the team. 

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Why the Republicans' Big Lie works so well: A sociopathic party, and a damaged country

 

The Republican Party and the right-wing movement are expert and prodigious liars. This causes great frustration and anger for Democrats, progressives and others who believe in real "we the people" American democracy. The American people have become massively confused and disoriented by the Republicans' torrent of lies.

 

Why are the Republicans able to lie so much and so easily? There are two primary reasons.

 

The foundational explanation is that the modern Republican Party and right-wing movement are sociopathic. The Republican Party meets those criteria, as I explained in an earlier essay at Salon

 

 

The day-to-day practical explanation for the Republican Party's habitual lying (and that of the right more generally) is that it is a highly effective political strategy for helping them win and keep power.

 

To that point, the Republican Party's policies are unpopular with the American people. If Republicans told the truth about those policies, they would rarely or never be able to win free and fair elections.

 

Moreover, today's Republican Party is almost fully a neofascist political organization and personality cult centered around Donald Trump. Its goal is to overthrow America's multiracial secular democracy and replace it with an apartheid-style plutocracy (flavored with theocracy). Assaulting empirical reality, undermining any sense of shared truth and values and replacing it all with an approved narrative that serves their goals is a primary method that fascists and authoritarians gain control over a society.

 

 

The day-to-day practical explanation for the Republican Party's habitual lying (and that of the right more generally) is that it is a highly effective political strategy for helping them win and keep power.

 

To that point, the Republican Party's policies are unpopular with the American people. If Republicans told the truth about those policies, they would rarely or never be able to win free and fair elections.

 

Moreover, today's Republican Party is almost fully a neofascist political organization and personality cult centered around Donald Trump. Its goal is to overthrow America's multiracial secular democracy and replace it with an apartheid-style plutocracy (flavored with theocracy). 

 

In all, Donald Trump was not a cautionary tale for today's Republicans. He was a role model for present and future behavior.

 

New research from the political advocacy and research group Democracy Corps shows that the Big Lie strategy is working.

 

Their report also finds that "Donald Trump's loyalist party is totally consolidated at this early point in its 2022 voting," and that Republican voters are more engaged with the 2022 midterms than are Democrats. "And with such high early engagement of Republicans and white working class voters in this survey," the report concludes, "the era of Donald Trump shaping the electorate is not over either."

 

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19 hours ago, Llevron said:


 I almost wonder what the line for these people will be. Not in a ‘When will they wise up?!’ way. But I am so so interested in what makes them go ‘Heyyyy they are trying to trick us!’ 

 

19 hours ago, mistertim said:

 

Nothing. They're fully hooked and mainlining at this point...they're True Believers. You'd probably have better luck convincing hardcore religious fundamentalists that their worldview is wrong. 

 

 

"just kev" on Twitter wrote this truth:

If you could reason with Trump supporters They wouldn’t be Trump supporters

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