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What is and what it means to be “WOKE”!


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2 hours ago, philibusters said:

I am a Democrat who does not consider myself woke.  I tend to have a negative impression of the term "woke".  Below is my understanding of it.   Its almost entirely negative, but it may give the wrong impression.   I have friends that I consider woke and I definitely consider them good people

 

I think of woke people as having on lenses that focuses their attention on identity traits like race, gender, sexual orientation and the like.   They tend to apply morality more at a group level than at an individual level.  For example, you apply affirmative action based on race, not an individual.  There are tends to be a lack of material analysis (socio-economic analysis) in my image of a stereotypical woke person.   My stereotypical woke person is middle to upper middle class, occupying a somewhat privileged socio-economic position (I don't think as blue collar working class or poor people as being woke).  There is also a social element to being woke.  A comradery with other woke people.   Thus a lot of wokesters doing a lot of their activism on social media.

 

"Woke" as I understand it coming into the mainstream vocabulary in the mid 2010s is this definition:

 

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aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

It was originally applied to racial justice in the context of the Black Lives Matter movement.  

 

"Woke" is now being co-opted by the right/conservatives to mean:

 

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politically liberal (as in matters of racial and social justice) especially in a way that is considered unreasonable or extreme

I think it is dumb that it has survived as a "right wing attack", but I don't know how much it was brought up in the context of political races in 2020 or 2022. 

 

For instance, my Google search on Glenn Youngkin and woke indicated he didn't attack wokeness, he attacked Critical Race Theory via parental choice in school... and as much as his opponent must have been awful not to hit back with some type of defense... the other idea is that we have a boatload of racist voters who don't like their racism (explicit or implcit) being pointed back at them. 

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woke PURPOSELY doesn't mean a damned thing.    It allows the person to apply it however the **** they want, while retaining the privilege to slip into sputtering rage at the wokeness of society at large that had been making them ashamed of being racist or sexist or just plain being a dick ---- until Trump set them free.

 

if you are tired of "race traitors", don't talk about race-traitors anymore, just hint at it and then clutch your pearls about the wokeness around you if someone calls you on it.....   of COURSE people love terms like "wokeness" ..... it is a ****ing blank check.

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5 hours ago, philibusters said:

I am a Democrat who does not consider myself woke.  I tend to have a negative impression of the term "woke".  Below is my understanding of it.   Its almost entirely negative, but it may give the wrong impression.   I have friends that I consider woke and I definitely consider them good people

 

I think of woke people as having on lenses that focuses their attention on identity traits like race, gender, sexual orientation and the like.   They tend to apply morality more at a group level than at an individual level.  For example, you apply affirmative action based on race, not an individual.  There are tends to be a lack of material analysis (socio-economic analysis) in my image of a stereotypical woke person.   My stereotypical woke person is middle to upper middle class, occupying a somewhat privileged socio-economic position (I don't think as blue collar working class or poor people as being woke).  There is also a social element to being woke.  A comradery with other woke people.   Thus a lot of wokesters doing a lot of their activism on social media.

 

This doesn't make any sense.  Wokeness is not a monolith.  It just means you're aware of why things are the way they are.

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10 hours ago, Fergasun said:

For instance, my Google search on Glenn Youngkin and woke indicated he didn't attack wokeness, he attacked Critical Race Theory via parental choice in school... and as much as his opponent must have been awful not to hit back with some type of defense... the other idea is that we have a boatload of racist voters who don't like their racism (explicit or implcit) being pointed back at them. 

 

Try googling Ron DESANCTIMONIOUS.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ron-desantis-woke-florida-primary-speech-b2152132.html

 

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Fresh off an expected win in Tuesday night’s gubernatorial primary, the popular (at least among conservatives) governor is vowing to fight the Democrats’ “woke” agenda the way he knows best: by repeating the word “woke” over and over while spending his administration’s time on red meat issues for conservatives like transgender rights and critical race theory.

 

In one moment during his victory speech on Tuesday, observers on social media pointed out that Mr DeSantis bemoaned the left’s “woke” agenda five times in less than 20 seconds, clearly in an effort to keep his fans’ attention or at least start an echo in the building.

 

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14 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

:ols:

 

Please STOP sending me your woke Pizzas! Especially not with stuffed crust, sausage and extra sauce. Specifically not on Friday nights and if possible with some kind of WOKE BEER that I HATE! 

 

Seriously I need to get on these scams they are brilliant. 

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Woke is just the new "SJW."  It started out as a very specific criticism but as does everything else, it took on a life of it's own with the mainstream GOP and morphed into anything that isn't right-wing is "woke"  just like anything to the left of Reaganism/trickle-down is "leftist/socialism/communism"


It is the same rebranding job that is done when there is little to no merit in the actual argument, just demonize a brand, and throw that brand on everything you disagree with.

 

Other recent examples:  "CRT" & "gender ideology"  

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To me Woke is simply a means for the Right to pass their right wing judgment and agenda, eliminating existing doctrine.  They do not specifically care about all the things they are targeting.  They just want to replace it with their rules, ideas, etc.  "Woke" is just a tool to achieve their objective.  Make a white authoritarian world.

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Most in new poll view ‘woke’ as positive term

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3890296-most-in-new-poll-view-woke-as-positive-term/

 

A majority of Americans in a new poll have a positive association with the term “woke,” understanding it to mean “to be informed, educated on, and aware of social injustices.”

 

The USA Today-Ipsos poll released on Wednesday found that 56 percent agreed with the more positive definition, while 39 percent had a negative association with the word and understood it to mean “to be overly politically correct and police others’ words.”

 

However, Americans in the poll are divided on whether they consider it an insult to be described as “woke,” with 40 percent calling it an insult and 32 percent calling it a compliment.

 

Both of these measures break down along party lines, with Republicans more likely than their Democratic counterparts to have a negative understanding of “wokeness” and to consider it an insult.

 

 

 

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****ed-up formatting...argh.
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