CobraCommander Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, BleedBNG said: Finlay said on X that we got a first rounder. Did we? Are you sure its him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Young is considered by some within the team as an addition by subtraction as Standig wrote. wow. Grant just talked about that as to hearing stories. That's the 4th reporter who talked about issues with Chase behind the scenes. We saw it last season. Part of it is the scheme though. In San Fran I guarantee he looks great because his job is going to be to run the passer and only rush the passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 At the end of the day, we were never a winning team with Young or Sweat. We were never a dominant defense with them. Neither of them reached double digit sacks and between them they have one combined Pro Bowl and nothing close to All Pro. Yeah they could both turn into superstars somewhere else, but what are the odds of that? I think its more likely Sweat has a good solid career(i.e. Preston Smith) and Young just bounces around the league continuing to disappoint, with the occasional really good season when he can get lucky enough to face a bunch of really weak offenses. I like that Harris took a cold, ruthless approach. No emotion. No giving an F that both were former first round picks. Lets start dumping guys who were part of a losing operation. We sucked with em. We can suck without em. Just now, Llevron said: We saw it last season. Part of it is the scheme though. In San Fran I guarantee he looks great because his job is going to be to run the passer and only rush the passer. The second he overpersues and leaves his gap and gives up a 20 yard run he's gonna get chewed out by Shanahan and co. 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Warhead36 said: The second he overpersues and leaves his gap and gives up a 20 yard run he's gonna get chewed out by Shanahan and co. If I'm them, for this season, he's coming off the bench in only obvious passing situations. Anything other than that is a mistake for them. Let him just crunch the pocket every play. He is good at it and he sucks at everything else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Wow, so all season a bunch of us wondered about sweat or payne, or young. Did anyone have traide both DEs on their fire sale? But this team is so bad on Oline, even if the D were good, and just worn out at end of games because of bad O, we don't have an O to go to the SB right now. We have glimpses, but need OL and maybe one more depth WR. (Possibly a TE, but I don't expect them to find one that can block and catch well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, KDawg said: I’m more afraid that trading them gives us a better shot at being competitive… That's what I said earlier. I think they'll be fine. They're likely to play better as a unit vs 4 individuals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Llevron said: If I'm them, for this season, he's coming off the bench in only obvious passing situations. Anything other than that is a mistake for them. Let him just crunch the pocket every play. He is good at it and he sucks at everything else. But like...IS he? We haven't really seen him dominate rushing the passer in any game this year. He's gotten some sacks sure, but mostly against completely garbage OL. The Eagles threw the ball a TON last Sunday and Young did absolutely nothing. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, KDawg said: If he goes against Wylie he could get 5 sacks. So could you. I couldn’t. Bad knees. My 10 year old daughter is a competitive swimmer. She could get 12. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Going Commando said: You want to talk to me about professionalism while defending an owner forcing his football people to trade off some of their best players in deadline deals? That's professionalism to you? Josh Harris doesn’t have football people yet. Ashburn has more ghosts walking the halls than ****ing Hogwarts. 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel.redskins Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Smart move. Bottom line, this defense is ranked 31st. Need to rebuild the defense starting with linebacker. If we bring in a top MLB, draft another in the middle rounds, and keep Davis, next year's defense will be better than what we've seen this season. Edited October 31, 2023 by Daniel.redskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Conn said: Josh Harris doesn’t have football people yet. Ashburn has more ghosts walking the halls than ****ing Hogwarts. I mean, I can only think of 7 full time ghosts at Hogwarts: The 4 ghosts of the houses (Nearly Headless Nick, The Bloody Baron, The Grey Lady and the Fat Friar.) Then you have Moaning Myrtle, Professor Binns and Peaves the poltergeist. That’s not that many. Maybe I forgot one or two? There are many more dead men walking at Command Central than that…. Edited October 31, 2023 by Voice_of_Reason 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, CobraCommander said: Are you sure its him? Here's a screenshot I got on Facebook from someone saying the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, KillBill26 said: I never said my dislike for him was rational lol. And I have all the respect in the world for Kyle as an offensive mind. What he has done in Cleveland, Houston, Washington, Atlanta and San Francisco is all amazing. RG3 had a great season. Matt Ryan had an MVP season. He has San Francisco's offense humming with Trent Williams and four guys they got at the home Depot parking lot. I just don't like them because he has trashed this organization in the past. Yes, they deserved it. Yes, our front out office was a clown show. Yes, Snyder was an idiot and a jerk. But I'm still not going to root for the guy who is trashing our organization no matter how much the criticism was deserved. Again, I'm not pretending my dislike for shanahan is rational but I also do not want to see him or Trent or Chase win a championship. No offense but people being willing to honestly trash this organization after they left is one of the main reasons why we finally have a new owner. It wasn’t just big scandals, Snyder was surviving those. It was a lack of fan interest and diving profits that you can trace to a steady drumbeat of everyone from cheerleaders to coaches to media members never letting him off the hook. Death by a thousand cuts. Every bit helped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, KDawg said: I’m more afraid that trading them gives us a better shot at being competitive… Watch us drop in opponent ppg, due to teams now running more, chewing up more clock and not gaining 20+ chunks as often. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Conn said: No offense but people being willing to honestly trash this organization after they left is one of the main reasons why we finally have a new owner. It wasn’t just big scandals, Snyder was surviving those. It was a lack of fan interest and diving profits that you can trace to a steady drumbeat of everyone from cheerleaders to coaches to media members never letting him off the hook. Death by a thousand cuts. Every bit helped. Stealing money from the other owners certainly didn’t hurt… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hangman- C_Hanburger Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, KDawg said: I’m more afraid that trading them gives us a better shot at being competitive… Just look at last years D when he was out..I agree..his replacement will play the position not the sack angle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 "The team views the trade of Chase Young as a potential addition by subtraction." Ouch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, KDawg said: I’m more afraid that trading them gives us a better shot at being competitive… I’m not sure if it’s been posted but they were saying on the radio somebody from the park told Standig they thought trading young might be “addition by subtraction.” Which is a yowza thing to say to a reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csup Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, CapsSkins said: The team doesn't need a 3 year rebuild. One aggressive off-season with good drafting and FAs should keep the team in Wildcard contention + trending upward. I’ve heard it all before. Maybe Harris will get lucky where Synder failed. But I am setting expectations for building through the draft with a GM that knows what they are doing. I’ve suffered for for the last 30 years. My expectations for next year will be muted. But as long as there is a plan in place (not a Vinnie Cerrato plan), I can ride this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, JSSkinz said: "The team views the trade of Chase Young as a potential addition by subtraction." Ouch! 1 minute ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I’m not sure if it’s been posted but they were saying on the radio somebody from the park told Standig they thought trading young might be “addition by subtraction.” Which is a yowza thing to say to a reporter. In some ways it is. He loses his contain lane in run a lot, and gets way too deep on his pass rush. We won’t be as “threatening” without Sweat and Young. They are explosive and need to be accounted for. But Toohill, JSW and hopefully the rookies now will likely be more contain and assignment oriented. Which means less pressures and sacks but more assignment football. We’ll see. I’m glad we should get to see both rooks a little now to know how bad we blew those picks. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, BleedBNG said: Here's a screenshot I got on Facebook from someone saying the same thing Uh, you realize that is just the 1st round pick everyone gets in the draft, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Voice_of_Reason Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, KDawg said: We’ll see. I’m glad we should get to see both rooks a little now to know how bad we blew those picks. I’m leaving open the possibility we got lucky and got a good prospect by accident…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Uh, you realize that is just the 1st round pick everyone gets in the draft, right? Damn them. Keep seeing we got 5 picks. Why are they adding the obvious to this amount? So in reality we just got 4 picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazedSkinsfan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: We can damn near rebuild the entire oline with all the picks we have, obviously we still have needs on defense but at least we have some room to put some resources around Howell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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