Riggo-toni Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) First, let us unite chanting our team's fight song Hail to the Commies Hail KGB Brave Proletariat Fight the Bourgeoisie Updates: Resigned Payne Signed Nick Gates (OL) Andrew Wylie (RT) Cody Barton (LB) Tiny Dantzler (CB) Jacoby Brissett (QB...duh) Gone Heinicke (Falcons) McKissic (cut) Holcomb Cam Sims Edited January 10 by Riggo-toni Updates 1 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Well, this was a great thread. I think this just about wraps up 2023 FA. See you next year, folks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Command The 414 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) Your Thoughts, Opinions, ideas and positions to target through FA or Draft. With most of Mocks I've saw on NFL Network etc... they have us taking Witherspoon or Porter Jr w/the 16th pick, if that holds true then CB would be addressed more then likely....so I'll stick w/CB in this post. Here are a few names available the Free Agent route: Murphy Jr. (Cards) Ya-Sin (Raiders) Peterson (Vikes) Jones (Pats) Peters (Ravens) Sutton (Steelers) Bradberry (Iggles) Dean (Bucs) Nothing or nobody real exciting to me except maybe Jamel Dean of the Bucs but saying that it's my opinion none of these above mentioned guys are any more then William Jackson 2.0 so if it's me, and Withersppon from Illinois is there at 16, then I'm grabbing him and counting my Blessings and/or Joey Porter Jr but even being a PSU guy I'm still not knowing if at 16 I'm pulling that trigger Thoughts? Edited February 26, 2023 by Command The 414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50yrSKINSfan Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Heard the Rams may be releasing Jalen Ramsey, should we be interested? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seantaylor=god Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) We need to pick up a veteran QB, preferably someone with WCO experience (Reid offense would be best) to help with our install and to step in if Howell bombs. Any ideas? Just based on talent I like Jacoby Brisett. Gardner Minshew? Andy Dalton? Edited February 26, 2023 by seantaylor=god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, seantaylor=god said: We need to pick up a veteran QB, preferably someone with WCO experience (Reid offense would be best) to help with our install and to step in if Howell bombs. Any ideas? Just based on talent I like Jacoby Brisett. Gardner Minshew? Andy Dalton? Other options I have heard are Bridgewater and resigning TH My favorite of the lot is Brissett, he will come at a higher cost than others Dalton has history with Zampese and of course, so does TH I could see Minshew at a lower cost of this group. There will be others released I think they will focus heavily on the OL along with a vet QB first. Then maybe LB. Be interesting to see what they decide with Holcomb Edited February 26, 2023 by DWinzit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 2023 NFL free agents: Top players by position, subjective list, many not be 100% complete....... Quarterbacks Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens Derek Carr, Las Vegas Raiders Geno Smith, Seattle Seahawks Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco 49ers Daniel Jones, New York Giants Jacoby Brissett, Cleveland Browns Baker Mayfield, Los Angeles Rams Gardner Minshew, Philadelphia Eagles Sam Darnold, Carolina Panthers Teddy Bridgewater, Miami Dolphins Case Keenum, Buffalo Bills Mason Rudolph, Pittsburgh Steelers Andy Dalton, New York Jets Taylor Heinicke, Washington Commanders Joe Flacco, New York Jets Mike White, New York Jets Kyle Allen, Houston Texans Drew Lock, Seattle Seahawks Chase Daniel, Los Angeles Chargers Blaine Gabbert, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Josh Johnson, San Francisco 49ers Tyler Huntley, Baltimore Ravens (restricted) Cooper Rush, Dallas Cowboys Brett Rypien, Denver Broncos (restricted) John Wolford, Los Angeles Rams (restricted) P.J. Walker, Carolina Panthers (restricted) Jarrett Stidham, Las Vegas Raiders Running backs Saquon Barkley, New York Giants Josh Jacobs, Las Vegas Raiders Tony Pollard, Dallas Cowboys Miles Sanders, Philadelphia Eagles Devin Singeltary, Buffalo Bills David Montgomery, Chicago Bears Jamaal Williams, Detroit Lions Kareem Hunt, Cleveland Browns D’Ernest Johnson, Cleveland Browns Rashaad Penny, Seattle Seahawks D’Onta Foreman, Carolina Panthers Jeff Wilson, Miami Dolphins Raheem Mostert, Miami Dolphins Damien Harris, New England Patriots Latavius Murray, Denver Broncos Kenyan Drake, Baltimore Ravens Samaje Perine, Cincinnati Bengals James Robinson, New York Jets (restricted) Jerick McKinnon, Kansas City Chiefs Alexander Mattison, Minnesota Vikings Mark Ingram, New Orleans Saints Justice Hill, Baltimore Ravens Boston Scott, Philadelphia Eagles JaMycal Hasty, Jacksonville Jaguars Rex Burkhead, Houston Texans Jaret Patterson, Washington Commanders (restricted) Travis Homer, Seattle Seahawks Ronald Jones, Kansas City Chiefs Ameer Abdullah, Las Vegas Raiders Fullbacks Andy Janovich, Houston Texans Derek Watt, Pittsburgh Steelers Keith Smith, Atlanta Falcons Jakob Johnson, Las Vegas Raiders Michael Burton, Kansas City Chiefs Andrew Beck, Denver Broncos Tight ends Dalton Schultz, Dallas Cowboys Evan Engram, New York Giants Mike Gesicki, Miami Dolphins Austin Hooper, Tennessee Titans Robert Tonyan, Green Bay Packers Foster Moreau, Las Vegas Raiders Jordan Akins, Houston Texans Hayden Hurst, Cincinnati Bengals Brock Wright, Detroit Lions Irv Smith Jr., Minnesota Vikings Donald Parham, Los Angeles Chargers O.J. Howard, Houston Texans Mitchell Wilcox, Cincinnati Bengals Josh Oliver, Baltimore Ravens Marcedes Lewis, Green Bay Packers Kyle Rudolph, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Eric Tomlinson, Denver Broncos Maxx Williams, Arizona Cardinals MyCole Pruitt, Atlanta Falcons Geoff Swaim, Tennessee Titans Eric Saubert, Denver Broncos Ross Dwelley, San Francisco 49ers Adam Sheehan, Miami Dolphins Wide receivers Odell Beckham Jr., free agent D.J. Chark, Detroit Lions Allen Lazard, Green Bay Packers JuJu Smith-Schuster, Pittsburgh Steelers Jakobi Meyers, New England Patriots Mecole Hardman, Kansas City Chiefs Robert Woods, Tennessee Titans Mack Hollins, Las Vegas Raiders Sterling Shepard, New York Giants Parris Campbell, Indianapolis Colts Jarvis Landry, New Orleans Saints Darius Slayton, New York Giants Noah Brown, Dallas Cowboys Marvin Jones, Jacksonville Jaguars T.Y. Hilton, Dallas Cowboys Jauan Jennings, San Francisco 49ers (exclusive-rights free agent) Demarcus Robinson, Baltimore Ravens Juwan Johnson, New Orleans Saints Olamide Zaccheaus, Atlanta Falcons Nelson Agholor, New England Patriots Justin Watson, Kansas City Chiefs Randall Cobb, Green Bay Packers Richie James, New York Giants Deandre Carter, Los Angeles Chargers Jalen Guyton, Los Angeles Chargers Jamison Crowder, Buffalo Bills Dante Pettis, Chicago Bears Zach Pascal, Philadelphia Eagles Keelan Cole, Las Vegas Raiders N’Keal Harry, Chicago Bears Demiere Byrd, Atlanta Falcons Steven Sims Jr., Pittsburgh Steelers River Cracraft, Miami Dolphins Marcus Johnson, New York Giants Sammy Watkins, Baltimore Ravens Chris Moore, Houston Texans Greg Dortch, Arizona Cardinals (restricted) Trent Sherfield, Miami Dolphins Nick Westbrook, Tennessee Titans Marquise Goodwin, Seattle Seahawks Scotty Miller, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Miles Boykin, Pittsburgh Steelers Offensive tackles Orlando Brown Jr., Kansas City Chiefs Mike McGlinchey, San Francisco 49ers Jawaan Taylor, Jacksonville Jaguars Isaac Seumalo, Philadelphia Eagles Isaiah Wynn, New England Patriots Andrew Wylie, Kansas City Chiefs Kaleb McGary, Atlanta Falcons Terence Steele, Dallas Cowboys (restricted) Cameron Fleming, Denver Broncos Jason Peters, Dallas Cowboys Kelvin Beachum, Arizona Cardinals George Fant, New York Jets Ja’Wuan James, Baltimore Ravens Riley Reiff, Chicago Bears Chris Hubbard, Cleveland Browns Yodny Cajuste, New England Patriots Jermaine Eluemunor, Las Vegas Raiders Eric Fisher, Miami Dolphins Germain Ifedi, Atlanta Falcons Calvin Anderson, Denver Broncos Greg Little, Miami Dolphins Marcus Cannon, New England Patriots Colton McKivitz, San Francisco 49ers (restricted) David Quessenberry, Buffalo Bills Billy Turner, Denver Broncos Ty Nsekhe, Los Angeles Rams Mike Remmers, New York Jets Andre Dillard, Philadelphia Eagles Brandon Parker, Las Vegas Raiders Cedric Ogbuehi, New York Jets Guards Dalton Risner, Denver Broncos Ben Powers, Baltimore Ravens Rodger Saffold, Buffalo Bills Justin Pugh, Arizona Cardinals Nick Gates, New York Giants Nate Davis, Tennessee Titans Oday Aboushi, Los Angeles Rams Trai Turner, Washington Commanders David Edwards, Los Angeles Rams Dan Feeney, New York Jets Nate Herbig, New York Jets Jesse Davis, Pittsburgh Steelers Evan Brown, Detroit Lions Daniel Brunskill, San Francisco 49ers Michael Deiter, Miami Dolphins Cody Ford, Arizona Cardinals Greg Van Roten, Buffalo Bills Will Hernandez, Arizona Cardinals Billy Price, Arizona Cardinals Matt Pryor, Indianapolis Colts Tom Compton, Denver Broncos Justin McCray, Houston Texans Centers Rodney Hudson, Arizona Cardinals Bradley Bozeman, Carolina Panthers Mitch Morse, Buffalo Bills Connor McGovern, New York Jets Garrett Bradbury, Minnesota Vikings Aaron Brewer, Tennessee Titans Jason Kelce, Philadelphia Eagles Jake Brendel, San Francisco 49ers Nick Martin, Washington Commanders Austin Blythe, Seattle Seahawks Erik McCoy, New Orleans Saints Jon Feliciano, New York Giants Ethan Pocic, Cleveland Browns Scott Quessenberry, Houston Texans Tyler Larsen, Washington Commanders Kyle Fuller, Seattle Seahawks Austin Reiter, Kansas City Chiefs EDGE Yannick Ngakoue, Indianapolis Colts Robert Quinn, Philadelphia Eagles Arden Key, Jacksonville Jaguars Brandon Graham, Philadelphia Eagles Justin Houston, Baltimore Ravens Marcus Davenport, New Orleans Saints Shaq Lawson, Buffalo Bills Melvin Ingram, Miami Dolphins Jadeveon Clowney, Cleveland Browns Jason Pierre-Paul, Baltimore Ravens DeMarcus Walker, Tennessee Titans Jordan Willis, San Francisco 49ers Carlos Dunlap, Kansas City Chiefs Carl Nassib, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Lorenzo Carter, Atlanta Falcons Samson Ebukam, San Francisco 49ers Dante Fowler Jr., Dallas Cowboys Rasheem Green, Houston Texans Morgan Fox, Los Angeles Chargers Tyquan Lewis, Indianapolis Colts Dawuane Smoot, Jacksonville Jaguars Vinny Curry, New York Jets Malik Reed, Pittsburgh Steelers Matthew Ioannidis, Carolina Panthers Charles Omenihu, San Francisco 49ers Steven Means, Baltimore Ravens Kyle Van Noy, Los Angeles Chargers Zach Allen, Arizona Cardinals Kerry Hyder, San Francisco 49ers Trey Flowers, Miami Dolphins Solomon Thomas, New York Jets Tashawn Bower, Las Vegas Raiders Tyson Aluala, Pittsburgh Steelers L.J. Collier, Seattle Seahawks Clelin Ferrell, Las Vegas Raiders Chase Winovich, Cleveland Browns Defensive tackles Daron Payne, Washington Commanders Javon Hargrave, Philadelphia Eagles Dalvin Tomlinson, Minnesota Vikings Fletcher Cox, Philadelphia Eagles David Onyemata, New Orleans Saints Sheldon Rankins, New York Jets A’Shawn Robinson, Los Angeles Rams Peona Ford, Seattle Seahawks Dre’Mont Jones, Denver Broncos Chris Wormley, Pittsburgh Steelers Ndamukong Suh, Philadelphia Eagles Linval Joseph, Philadelphia Eagles Taven Bryan, Cleveland Browns Larry Ogunjobi, Pittsburgh Steelers Greg Gaines, Los Angeles Rams Akiem Hicks, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jerry Tillery, Las Vegas Raiders Kevin Givens, San Francisco 49ers Michael Brockers, Detroit Lions Hassan Ridgeway, San Francisco 49ers Johnathan Hankins, Dallas Cowboys Justin Ellis, New York Giants Teair Tart, Tennessee Titans John Jenkins, Miami Dolphins Deadrin Senat, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Carl Davis, New England Patriots Derrick Nnadi, Kansas City Chiefs Shy Tuttle, New Orleans Saints Jarran Reed, Green Bay Packers Khalen Saunders, Kansas City Chiefs Jordan Phillips, Buffalo Bills Dean Lowry, Green Bay Packers Maurice Hurst, San Francisco 49ers William Gholston, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Armon Watts, Chicago Bears Corey Peters, Jacksonville Jaguars Linebackers Bobby Wagner, Los Angeles Rams Tremaine Edmunds, Buffalo Bills T.J. Edwards, Philadelphia Eagles Lavonte David, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Leighton Vander Esch, Dallas Cowboys Kyzir White, Philadelphia Eagles Devin Bush, Pittsburgh Steelers Anthony Walker, Cleveland Browns Azeez Al-Shaair, San Francisco 49ers Bobby Okereke, Indianapolis Colts Germaine Pratt, Cincinnati Bengals Elandon Roberts, Miami Dolphins Zach Cunningham, Tennessee Titans Anthony Barr, Dallas Cowboys Kaden Elliss, New Orleans Saints Robert Spillane, Pittsburgh Steelers Drue Tranquill, Los Angeles Chargers Quincy Williams, New York Jets Jayon Brown, Las Vegas Raiders Kamu Grugier-Hill, Arizona Cardinals Jarrad Davis, Detroit Lions Tanner Muse, Seattle Seahawks David Long, Tennessee Titans Denzel Perryman, Las Vegas Raiders Alex Anzalone, Detroit Lions Rashaan Evans, Atlanta Falcons Alex Singleton, Denver Broncos Kwon Alexander, New York Jets Jonas Griffith, Denver Broncos Andrew Van Ginkel, Miami Dolphins Raekwon McMillan, New England Patriots David Mayo, Washington Commanders Cory Littleton, Carolina Panthers Deion Jones, Cleveland Browns Nick Vigil, Arizona Cardinals Nicholas Morrow, Chicago Bears Dakota Allen, Denver Broncos Kevin Pierre-Louis, Houston Texans Krys Barnes, Green Bay Packers Duke Riley, Miami Dolphins Eric Wilson, Green Bay Packers Joe Thomas, Chicago Bears Cornerbacks James Bradberry, Philadelphia Eagles Jonathan Jones, New England Patriots Marcus Peters, Baltimore Ravens Jamel Dean, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Patrick Peterson, Minnesota Vikings Bradley Roby, New Orleans Saints Anthony Brown, Dallas Cowboys Emmanuel Moseley, San Francisco 49ers Dane Jackson, Buffalo Bills Troy Hill, Los Angeles Rams Nik Needham, Miami Dolphins Eli Apple, Cincinnati Bengals Kyle Fuller, Baltimore Ravens Rock Ya-Sin, Las Vegas Raiders Tre Flowers, Cincinnati Bengals David Long, Los Angeles Rams Sean Bunting, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Trayvon Mullen, Baltimore Ravens Chandon Sullivan, Minnesota Vikings Fabian Moreau, New York Giants Sidney Jones, Las Vegas Raiders Greedy Williams, Cleveland Browns Bryce Callahan, Los Angeles Chargers Tre Herndon, Jacksonville Jaguars Antonio Hamilton, Arizona Cardinals Terrance Mitchell, Tennessee Titans Justin Coleman, Seattle Seahawks P.J. Williams, New Orleans Saints Isaiah Oliver, Atlanta Falcons Cameron Sutton, Pittsburgh Steelers Anthony Averett, Las Vegas Raiders Brandon Facyson, Indianapolis Colts Mike Hughes, Detroit Lions Byron Murphy, Arizona Cardinals Artie Burns, Seattle Seahawks Tavierre Thomas, Houston Texans Jason Verrett, San Francisco 49ers Josh Jackson, Arizona Cardinals Jalen Tabor, Seattle Seahawks Safeties Jordan Poyer, Buffalo Bills Vonn Bell, Cincinnati Bengals Jessie Bates, Cincinnati Bengals C.J. Gardner-Johnson, Philadelphia Eagles Jimmie Ward, San Francisco 49ers Adrian Amos, Green Bay Packers Devin McCourty, New England Patriots Nasir Adderley, Los Angeles Chargers Taylor Rapp, Los Angeles Rams Juan Thornhill, Kansas City Chiefs Tashaun Gipson, San Francisco 49ers Deshon Elliott, Detroit Lions Jonathan Owens, Houston Texans Ryan Neal, Seattle Seahawks Julian Love, New York Giants Donovan Wilson, Dallas Cowboys Marcus Epps, Philadelphia Eagles Will Harris, Detroit Lions Geno Stone, Baltimore Ravens Rodney McLeod, Denver Broncos Jabrill Peppers, New England Patriots Karl Joseph, Pittsburgh Steelers Josh Jones, Seattle Seahawks Justin Evans, New Orleans Saints Andrew Wingard, Jacksonville Jaguars M.J. Stewart, Houston Texans Tony Jefferson, New York Giants Marcus Allen, Pittsburgh Steelers Duron Harmon, Las Vegas Raiders Erik Harris, Atlanta Falcons A.J. Moore, Tennessee Titans Deon Bush, Kansas City Chiefs Eric Rowe, Miami Dolphins LaMarcus Joyner, New York Jets Terrell Edmunds, Pittsburgh Steelers Nick Scott, Los Angeles Rams Mike Edwards, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Keanu Neal, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Johnathan Abram, Seattle Seahawks Kickers Robbie Gould, San Francisco 49ers Mason Crosby, Green Bay Packers Matt Prater, Arizona Cardinals Greg Zuerlein, New York Jets Matt Gay, Los Angeles Rams Greg Joseph, Minnesota Vikings Brett Maher, Dallas Cowboys Chase McLaughlin, Indianapolis Colts Punters - Not listed out of respect for Tress Way...... 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Going to be interesting to see how things play out with some of our own FAs. Payne - LTD or tag (and possibly a trade, though I doubt it) Holcomb - would be nice to find an upgrade, but he’s also a been a pretty solid player for us. If we had a guy waiting in the wings, I wouldn’t bring him back, but we don’t, so… Reaves (RFA) - ST ace, but he’s also our 5th on the depth chart (and the team seemingly wants to address S in the draft). Maybe he gets the right of first refusal tender? I could see letting him test FA too (similar to McKissick last year, though hopefully better executed, lol) Cam Sims - not too sure why we’d bring him back except for the fact that our other depth guys haven’t shown much Obada - I thought he played pretty well for us, but he’s also older and might have earned himself a pay raise. I think DE is a sneaky need/chance in the draft. Schweitzer - solid depth piece Larsen - possible re-sign, but mainly (IMV) only if we decide to cut Roullier loose Eifler (ERFA) - got some good reviews in camp, so I assume he’ll be back Hudson (RFA) - right of first refusal tender? Or maybe a short term deal that costs a bit less? I could see waiting to see what the draft brings or signing a starting level LB in FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 We have to assume we are on a budget either due to Danny’s financial issues or because he’s selling the team. So, we are likely not participating in the early free agency rush where the big contracts are signed. I think it will be quiet early on. The only big move we make, is franchising Payne. We need a backup qb. Someone good enough to push Sam and start if needed. We need o-linemen in free agency and draft. Maybe a TE or CB, unless we decide to draft them. Also linebacker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, skinny21 said: Reaves (RFA) - ST ace, but he’s also our 5th on the depth chart (and the team seemingly wants to address S in the draft). Maybe he gets the right of first refusal tender? I could see letting him test FA too (similar to McKissick last year, though hopefully better executed, lol) I think he 100% stay. Rivera loves him. Re-watch the video when they told him he was going to the pro bowl. He’s stay without doubt IMO. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 The ideal for me, ‘major’ QB investment aside, would be getting Payne locked in on a LTD and snagging Orlando Brown Jr for LT. However, some less ‘flashy’ targets I could see us showing interest in : QB - Andy Dalton, New York Jets (very cheap vet #2 behind Howell) TE - Austin Hooper, Tennessee Titans (if we cut Thomas) WR - Parris Campbell, Indianapolis Colts (injury risk, high upside, close with Terry Mc) G - Dalton Risner, Denver Broncos (versatile IOL, durable, priority need) CB - Byron Murphy, Arizona Cardinals (wildcard guess) Gonna need more OL in the draft, plus a LB I would say. Unless we target within the division..... T.J. Edwards, Philadelphia Eagles Leighton Vander Esch, Dallas Cowboys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 7 hours ago, 88Comrade2000 said: We have to assume we are on a budget either due to Danny’s financial issues or because he’s selling the team. Facts. Really wish Snyder would work something out to get Orlando Brown out of Kansas City anyway, we need oline help and it would be at least one starter who's semi-familiar with the new OC. Signing two like I'd like may be a pipe dream without new ownership settled, so that first round pick better be oline at well, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Facts. Really wish Snyder would work something out to get Orlando Brown out of Kansas City anyway, we need oline help and it would be at least one starter who's semi-familiar with the new OC. Signing two like I'd like may be a pipe dream without new ownership settled, so that first round pick better be oline at well, imo. Don’t want a first round OL if no first round quality OL are on the board. So no thanks to pre-selecting a position to draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I'd love to add RG Isaac Seumalo (Philly). Oline will be a top priority, and I think seumalo will be a great value. He had a great season, is entering his prime, and Philly will have to let some guys walk. We can still take oline if BPA presents an opportunity, and with cosmis G/T flexibility (I hope they don't give up on him at RT), then I think seumalo will be a great first step in putting together a solid unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, KDawg said: Don’t want a first round OL if no first round quality OL are on the board. So no thanks to pre-selecting a position to draft. Ok... Are you saying there's no one worthy in the first round? WalterFootball has at least 5 going in the first round in their latest mock draft... https://walterfootball.com/draft2023.php Trade down if we have to, oline should be higher priority then CB, imo. Edited February 27, 2023 by Renegade7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Gotta wonder if Bienemy looks at the FA TE list and goes for one of them? Evan Engram...Irv Smith? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Renegade7 said: Ok... Are you saying there's no one worthy in the first round? WalterFootball has at least 5 going in the first round in their latest mock draft... https://walterfootball.com/draft2023.php Trade down if we have to, oline should be higher priority then CB, imo. Walter football is awful. In my opinion, there are three tackles. Paris Johnson is the best. Then Dawand Jones and Wright. There are two guards: Torrence and Skoronski. Only one that is worth 16, imo, is Johnson. And he’ll be gone by then. Dawand might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, KDawg said: Walter football is awful. In my opinion, there are three tackles. Paris Johnson is the best. Then Dawand Jones and Wright. There are two guards: Torrence and Skoronski. Only one that is worth 16, imo, is Johnson. And he’ll be gone by then. Dawand might be. Noted. Kiper has at least three olinemen going in the first round and Daniel Jeremiah has 5, so I'll give this until the combine to see how it fleshes out: https://www.on3.com/news/nfl-com-releases-updated-2023-mock-draft-with-plenty-of-surprises-daniel-jeremiah/ I've warmed to BPA in the draft over the years, case by case for me still, but this year, and I'm not going to be happy if I feel like oline isn't visably getting resources devoted to it that it sorely needs. That doesn't mean reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, kingdaddy said: Gotta wonder if Bienemy looks at the FA TE list and goes for one of them? Evan Engram...Irv Smith? Tempting, really is, but I hope we be mindful with our resources given how many players are on rookie contracts, including our likely starting QB. One after the other they are going to get paid, so I hope we don't act like we have more money then we think we do. I'd be shocked if we didn't take a TE in the draft or at least some better depth in free agency, but we have plenty of weapons between our top 3 receivers, Gibson, and Robinson, that a big pick up at TE just feels like a luxury. Logan is almost done, but fine for 2023 as long as he stays healthy. Edited February 27, 2023 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 If another team signs Hudson (RFA) I understand we would get right to first refusal. If they let him go do the Commanders receive a 5th round pick as compensation as that's the round he was selected or do you get squat? I don't really expect this to occur but can't recall. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, DWinzit said: If another team signs Hudson (RFA) I understand we would get right to first refusal. If they let him go do the Commanders receive a 5th round pick as compensation as that's the round he was selected or do you get squat? I don't really expect this to occur but can't recall. Thank you Assuming 1st and 2nd round tenders are out the window, we can tender him with right of first refusal in which we just get a right to match, but no compensation if we don’t match. Or, more likely, we use the fourth option - an original round tender and get back a 5th as you suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, skinny21 said: Assuming 1st and 2nd round tenders are out the window, we can tender him with right of first refusal in which we just get a right to match, but no compensation if we don’t match. Or, more likely, we use the fourth option - an original round tender and get back a 5th as you suggest. Got it. I couldn't find that part, thanks skinny! I figure he is back especially after the way played at the end of the year. He and Howell had big final games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 43 minutes ago, DWinzit said: Got it. I couldn't find that part, thanks skinny! I figure he is back especially after the way played at the end of the year. He and Howell had big final games. No problem mate. I’d say there’s a good chance he’s back, though I do wonder if they try to sign him vs tender him as the tender is something like 2.5mil. Speaking of linebackers, I still maintain they ought to cross train Shaka as a backer. Can’t imagine he’s going to turn into more than just a back end depth DE (possibly a good STer though), so why not take advantage of the versatility. Potentially helps the team and should also help him in terms of longevity in the league (IMO anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, skinny21 said: No problem mate. I’d say there’s a good chance he’s back, though I do wonder if they try to sign him vs tender him as the tender is something like 2.5mil. Speaking of linebackers, I still maintain they ought to cross train Shaka as a backer. Can’t imagine he’s going to turn into more than just a back end depth DE (possibly a good STer though), so why not take advantage of the versatility. Potentially helps the team and should also help him in terms of longevity in the league (IMO anyway). $2.5? ugh that's a ton for him. I was thrilled when Shaka was drafted late, thought he was a steal. Would love to see them use him more! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 On 2/26/2023 at 7:16 AM, Command The 414 said: Your Thoughts, Opinions, ideas and positions to target through FA or Draft. With most of Mocks I've saw on NFL Network etc... they have us taking Witherspoon or Porter Jr w/the 16th pick, if that holds true then CB would be addressed more then likely....so I'll stick w/CB in this post. Thoughts? From a roster-construction standpoint we already have a decent chunk of $$ allocated to Fuller and I think he's got 1 more year left on his deal. So it could make sense to bring in a FA and spread that $$ out over several years where we don't have $$ allocated to CB. But I think a CB in the draft could make the most sense since it's a deep class and I doubt we really make any splashy FA signings outside of OL. I could see a LB since Davis is on a rookie deal. Maybe a mid-tier reclamation at CB would work. Someone in that $5-6m range for 2-3 years. And that might fit best with the most likely scenario in the draft ... that we go OL-OL-CB with the 1st 3 round picks. If we emphasize OL in R1, then it would make sense to draft a R2 or R3 CB to add to Fuller + St. Juste + mid-tier FA CB. Of course FA comes first. And you don't want to go into the draft NEEDING a position (or at least several positions). If we traded Payne for a 2 and 4 or even got a mid to late 1 for him, that would open things up a lot more in the draft and FA. With a 1, 1, 2, 3 or even a 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4 you would have plenty of ammunition to grab 3 starters, including a CB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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