88Comrade2000 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: This team makes me drink. I’m stupid for still being a fan. Oh, and Dallas is up 9-0, and Philly is up 7-0…. The NFC East minus us, may rule the nfc this year. Legit chance of putting 3 teams in the playoffs this year. The nfc road to the SuperBowl could very well go thru the nfc east winner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I had zero intentions of watching a single snap of this game and watching the end of the browns chargers game they switch to the end of that debacle. I guess I need to avoid football all together to avoid the karma that comes from being a lifelong fan of the worst franchise in the nfl. And make no mistake that's exactly what this franchise is, they have absolutely nothing going for them. It's quite possible we could be 3 games out of 3rd place after 5 weeks. Disfunction on a whole new level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Fail to the Commanders #FTTC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I know McKissic is thinking "Why did I turn around" 😰 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, bearrock said: I think you're right re: coaches' viewpoint. But fans like me who want Wentz benched long before he nears the 70% mark aren't concerned with what the coaches are likely to do as much as what the coaches should do. Squeezing out few more wins with Wentz over Heinicke is not in this team's long term interest. Especially not with the high draft pick on the line. No coach is going to tank intentionally. It's just not going to happen. Not only would that go against their personal and professional ethos but it would also be almost guaranteed to lose them the locker room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacePenguin Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I wish this mess of a team still had Cousins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I can't tell which is worse, the offense or the defense. Watching Wentz get rid of the ball is torture, his wind up takes damn near 2 seconds on its own. A truly horrible franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SpacePenguin said: I wish this mess of a team still had Cousins. i miss healthy jordan and trent and scherff Edited October 9, 2022 by dunfer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Nah. First Wentz wasn’t even remotely close to the problem today. He was and is not the solution either. I have seen enough. Way too slow a start. Ok, he had a decent second half but that team has been almost historically bad in the second half and the team did not take advantage. 1 hour ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Second, I don’t want Howell playing behind that line. I do not understand this line of thinking at all. In the NFL you are going to get hit. And as a QB you will get hit a lot. If they are so worried about Howell then it should be the same for other QBs. Either he learns and protects himself or he is not NFL starting material. 1 hour ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Third, if we are going to lose, put Hienicke out there to just take hits and suck. He’s probably out of the NFL next year anyway. No reason why he couldn’t take a beating for a while for the cause. This I really do not understand. There is zero reason to play TH unless both Wentz and Howell are hurt - unless you are going for 1-16. I am not a fan of that but I can at least see that reasoning. But TH just should not be under center unless there is no other choice. Edited October 9, 2022 by goskins10 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, mistertim said: No coach is going to tank intentionally. It's just not going to happen. Not only would that go against their personal and professional ethos but it would also be almost guaranteed to lose them the locker room. The good news is they don’t have to tank intentionally. It happens organically. 6 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy316 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, mistertim said: No coach is going to tank intentionally. It's just not going to happen. Not only would that go against their personal and professional ethos but it would also be almost guaranteed to lose them the locker room. Yes, but if we’re 1-5 or 1-6, and we’re effectively out of the playoff picture in the NFC, what reason would we have to continue to play Wentz, especially if he continues to look like he did against the Eagles & Cowboys? His best games sadly, will probably resemble today’s game, and as you can see, he still gagged in the end. At some point, Wentz will be benched, either due to injury, but more likely performance. The competitive portion of our season will end on Thursday, when we lose to the Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Why do we all do this to ourselves. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csup Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, BleedBNG said: I know McKissic is thinking "Why did I turn around" 😰 I'm pretty sure he's wondering "Why didn't I stay in Buffalo?" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, mistertim said: No coach is going to tank intentionally. It's just not going to happen. Not only would that go against their personal and professional ethos but it would also be almost guaranteed to lose them the locker room. If they are few wins or worse with Wentz sitting close to projected 70% of the snaps, it's team mismanagement to continue playing him. If the coach won't do it, then it's time to show the coach the door (but there are also plenty of ways for a coach to couch it in terms other than tanking, such as evaluate young guys or give them opportunities). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, samy316 said: Yes, but if we’re 1-5 or 1-6, and we’re effectively out of the playoff picture in the NFC, what reason would we have to continue to play Wentz, especially if he continues to look like he did against the Eagles & Cowboys? His best games sadly, will probably resemble today’s game, and as you can see, he still gagged in the end. At some point, Wentz will be benched, either due to injury, but more likely performance. The competitive portion of our season will end on Thursday, when we lose to the Bears. Then the only option to replace him is Howell. They're not going to start Heinicke over Wentz. Personally, I'd much rather they let Wentz keep taking beatings behind a crap OL than put Howell in there before he's ready and get him shell shocked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, Csup said: I'm pretty sure he's wondering "Why didn't I stay in Buffalo?" That’s what he means by “why did I turn around” (meaning, why did I change my decision and come back here) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 If Howell doesn't get a shot at some point this year he may never get one. I can't see us putting our future on Sam, come the 2023 draft we have to go all in for one of these top tier QB's coming out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, XxSpearheadxX said: Why do we all do this to ourselves. We’re masochists. (I’d say “because we’re all stupid”, which is essentially me calling myself stupid as well, but some user, I don’t remember who, took offense to that when I said it during the game Vs Philly) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, bearrock said: If they are few wins or worse with Wentz sitting close to projected 70% of the snaps, it's team mismanagement to continue playing him. If the coach won't do it, then it's time to show the coach the door (but there are also plenty of ways for a coach to couch it in terms other than tanking, such as evaluate young guys or give them opportunities). So if a coach refuses to intentionally tank a season he should be fired? And who exactly would we be "evaluating" by benching Wentz? Howell? Even if he's ready, and that's a big if, I'm dubious that we would actually be able to get a feel for him behind such terrible OL play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, Cooleyfan1993 said: We’re masochists. (I’d say “because we’re all stupid”, which is essentially me calling myself stupid as well, but some user, I don’t remember who, took offense to that when I said it during the game Vs Philly) Im firing up madden cutting our offensive line and benching Wentz just because I can. #GrownAdult 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy316 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mistertim said: Then the only option to replace him is Howell. They're not going to start Heinicke over Wentz. Personally, I'd much rather they let Wentz keep taking beatings behind a crap OL than put Howell in there before he's ready and get him shell shocked. I don’t get this logic. If we’re Top 5 pick bad, why would we hesitate to play Howell? Howell is a 5th round pick, and he’s mobile, so we can see if he’s worth keeping for the new regime. This coming QB draft class is expected to be one of the best in years, so it would make sense for us to see what Howell has now, so that we can make a determination if he’s someone to build around or not. Since we have lots of holes to fix on this team, we need to know 100% if Howell can be in our future plans. It would be really beneficial to know for sure that we need to pick QB with our 1sr round selection next year. We also need to keep our 2nd round pick for obvious reasons. Edited October 9, 2022 by samy316 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Edited October 9, 2022 by DiscoBob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddyork Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: If Howell doesn't get a shot at some point this year he may never get one. I can't see us putting our future on Sam, come the 2023 draft we have to go all in for one of these top tier QB's coming out. I agree. Play him and see what you have before next year's draft. The Steelers are playing Pickett... We are not going anywhere. Save that 2nd round pick. The other side of the coin is that Ron and Scott are coaching for their jobs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Doc mentioned if the team lost to Chicago, he’d be concerned. I’m like… what do you think they’re saying in Chicago LOL! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just now, samy316 said: I don’t get this logic. If we’re Top 5 pick bad, why would we hesitate to play Howell? Howell is a 5th round pick, and he’s mobile, so we can see if he’s worth keeping for the new regime. This coming QB draft class is expected to be one of the best in years, so it would make sense for us to see what Howell has now, so that we can make a determination if he’s someone to build around or not. Since we have lots of holes to fix on this team, we need to know 100% if Howell can be in our future plans. So the current regime is jut going to quit or something 5 weeks into the season? Ron and CO aren't going to make moves for their replacements next year. That's absurd. Our Center can't even snap the football.... we're not throwing Howell out there. Might see him week 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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