Giddy4Gibson Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 So do you guys think Samuel is going to give us anything next year? Is he a legit #2 WR in today's NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shemp nixon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Yes and yes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 No and no. He will be injured again and contribute little. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: No and no. He will be injured again and contribute little. there is zero reason to assume this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Samuels got a redshirt year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Who is this Samuels? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Anything can happen, but there’s no reason to expect his injury to be a chronic issue. It was horrendous luck compounded by Rivera really wanting to get a weapon back on the field, and he never got close to 100%. The real question is can we utilize him like he was used during the most productive season of his career, the one that got him paid, which happened after Rivera and his staff left. Rivera’s staff had used him mostly as an extension of the run game ever since he was drafted, closer to the LOS, which wasn’t super efficient even though he flashed back then, and that’s what we’ve kinda seen in his limited snaps so far—but he was limited and not fulfilling the role they imagined when they signed him and worked all offseason, so who knows. After Rivera left CAR, they started using Samuel down field much more regularly and he flourished. I hope they have internalized that bc he was thought of as a bit of a disappointment his first few years in the league under Rivera’s staff. Either way, yeah he could get bit by the injury bug again and any self-respecting Washington fan is going to gravitate towards expecting the worst. It’s understandable and I won’t argue it. But there’s no real reason to think that’ll happen in this instance, it was bad luck. I’m much more concerned with the role they have planned for him and if it’s conducive to winning football games. That starts with finding a QB so we can see if Turner’s got the goods in any way. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Do NFL players usually come back well from groin injuries? I can't remember any, but will accept optimism from examples... 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, ntotoro said: Do NFL players usually come back well from groin injuries? I can't remember any, but will accept optimism from examples... 🤣 Plenty, when they are far enough removed from it. Unless there’s some sort of tear (which isn’t the case with these guys who get annoyingly close to coming back and spend all season trying to ease back in properly and failing), but it’s a soft tissue injury that can just linger when it happens at the wrong time. Like a hammy or a quad strain, they are usually not chronic issues. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 It's terrible that between Samuel and Golladay for the NYG they got paid over 100 mil combined and between the two of them I don't know if they scored 1 TD or combined for 200 yds receiving? Who knows what we'll get out of Samuel? I know Taylor missed him greatly and that having him run crossing routes and catching WR screens would've been a big boost to Taylors growth and our offense as a whole. Yes, he's a legit pro receiver and my hope is that he comes back healthy and we use him exactly how the Niners use Deebo Samuel. They are similar players with similar talents. Losing both Samuel and Logan Thomas destroyed our offense this season...we need them both to bounce back and stay healthy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoover-ball Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Another year older for a WR is never a good thing. Only way he puts up big numbers if we have a lot of injuries to other WR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemaskins Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Not to derail the thread with QB play, but is it not a valid question that with a full gambit of weapons I.e. Samuel, Thomas, McKissic, D. Brown, our current QBs are good enough for us to compete? Not that we don’t need an upgrade, but we should be able to scheme and coach our way IF folks are healthy, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacePenguin Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, lovemaskins said: Not to derail the thread with QB play, but is it not a valid question that with a full gambit of weapons I.e. Samuel, Thomas, McKissic, D. Brown, our current QBs are good enough for us to compete? Not that we don’t need an upgrade, but we should be able to scheme and coach our way IF folks are healthy, no? I'd say against mediocre defenses, it'd be fine. Not so much Buffalo or a healthy Dallas. Heinicke doesn't have the arm, nor the accuracy to beat man coverage consistently, and Allen lacks any kind of pocket awareness. Edited January 14, 2022 by SpacePenguin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, lovemaskins said: Not to derail the thread with QB play, but is it not a valid question that with a full gambit of weapons I.e. Samuel, Thomas, McKissic, D. Brown, our current QBs are good enough for us to compete? Not that we don’t need an upgrade, but we should be able to scheme and coach our way IF folks are healthy, no? No, definitely not. Unless the D gets a lot better and we stay healthy across the board. We just can’t keep up with what we’re rolling out at QB, over a full season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMacAttack Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I'd say don't rely on him and find another option for WR2 if he stays healthy it's a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Yes and No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, OMacAttack said: I'd say don't rely on him and find another option for WR2 if he stays healthy it's a bonus. I definitely think we need help on offense regardless of Samuel’s status. You can’t just assume he’ll fix everything even if healthy, we need explosiveness and talent to go with whatever we do at QB. WR, TE (if Thomas’ rehab is questionable), RB. Whatever, we need weapons 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 6 hours ago, DWinzit said: Who is this Samuels? Samuels is a synonym for injured. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Treat him like Jordan Reed. Pretend he doesn't even exist on your roster and anything you get out of him is a bonus. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 If Samuel gets hurt and does nothing again next year, he's going to right up there as another big time Washington FA busts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 The weakest hamstring on the NFL. I think if he reports to camp and makes it through preseason, there’s a good chance. The moment he tweaks something? Forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I still have no idea how a strained groin can cost a pro player most of the offseason, as well as nearly an entire 17 game regular season. I mean, did he literally rip his groin off the bone and try to treat it with Robitussin? Is his personal trainer Deuce Gruden? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Kev Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 If he heals up properly there's no reason to think that he won't contribute. He had a good 2020 with over 1,000 total scrimmage yards and caught 80% of his targets. I like the guy, but he obviously had a very disappointing 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Treat him like Jordan Reed. Pretend he doesn't even exist on your roster and anything you get out of him is a bonus. I can live with this. besides, we're not good enough to be turning ANYONE away just yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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