mistertim Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, visionary said: Guarding them from what? Covid-19? Have we developed virus piercing 5.56 rounds now? Dude, you ain't there to guard anyone. You're there to feel powerful and manly standing around with a rifle in camo and holding a flag. Also, if the police ordered them to disperse if things got out of hand what exactly is this dude going to do? Start shooting cops? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I’m willing to believe there’s a way do haircuts and mani/pedis that’s overwhelmingly safe with the proper protocols. Gyms seem like a particularly bad idea, tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-20/coronavirus-serology-testing-la-county Los Angeles County's antibody results are about the same as Santa Clara's in terms of percentage: an estimated 2.8-5.6% of the population is likely to have the virus already, about 221,000 to 442,000 people in total. There are currently 12,000 positive active cases in the county, so we're talking a number 18 to 36 times above what has been reported. There have been 600 confirmed deaths in the county, so if we stick to the middle of our speculative COVID-19 total (331,500), we get an IFR of .00181. The current CFR is 5%. One problem with speculating IFR using these numbers is that we have no idea how many COVID-19 deaths went unaccounted for leading up to the lockdown. Almost certainly hundreds. Still, we're talking about a CFR that is higher by orders of magnitude than the IFR because of insufficient testing and asymptomatic cases. Keep testing. Keep researching. There's so much that we still don't know about this virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) Here's a video of the testing process in the NY area. Pretty interesting to see the whole process. Edited April 20, 2020 by spjunkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Bacon said: Los Angeles County's antibody results are about the same as Santa Clara's in terms of percentage: an estimated 2.8-5.6% of the population is likely to have the virus already, Absolutely stunned it's that low. I guess one takeaway from that is how much knowing is better than assuming. So, let's do some more assuming. If it's that low, then either this thing is a lot less contagious that I thought, or distancing has been vastly better than I thought. If it's that low, then imagine what we'd be looking like, now, if it was more like 20%. If it's that low, then relaxing distancing would be near-suicidal. Love to see what the number is for, say, NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I'm sure this will go just fine! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 These idiots would take a clean hook to the face from Mike Tyson, regain consciousness in a week, then go do it again We aint leaving the house for at least another year 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Mooka said: If you think these protests are dumb or stupid you're missing the forest for the trees. Every protestor out there is a Trump voter actively campaigning for their candidate. We'll be calling these same people stupid when Trump is re-elected. If there is any justice in the world at all, there will be enough less of them due to their own ignorance that he will not get reelected. I would never root for anyone to die. But I will have a hard time feeling too bad for any of these idiots who make the decision to ignore protecting themselves and it comes back on them. You can't fix stupid! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Larry said: Absolutely stunned it's that low. I guess one takeaway from that is how much knowing is better than assuming. So, let's do some more assuming. If it's that low, then either this thing is a lot less contagious that I thought, or distancing has been vastly better than I thought. If it's that low, then imagine what we'd be looking like, now, if it was more like 20%. If it's that low, then relaxing distancing would be near-suicidal. Love to see what the number is for, say, NYC. We don't really know the numbers/percentages because of lack of testing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 That dumb son of a **** Kemp was on tv like last week saying he didnt know asymptomatic people could spread the disease, now he's using authority he should not have to make a decision that will kill people. People beyond the mere idiots who will cheer his stupidity I want off this ****ing rock man. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, goskins10 said: If there is any justice in the world at all, there will be enough less of them due to their own ignorance that he will not get reelected. I would never root for anyone to die. But I will have a hard time feeling too bad for any of these idiots who make the decision to ignore protecting themselves and it comes back on them. You can't fix stupid! Even in the event they don't die, they can pass it along to people who can, and overwhelm the system - which was the entire point of shutting everything down to begin with. Do these people not ask themselves why Trump locked everything down for 45 days to begin with? If he's your great, intelligent, fearless leader, why was he 'duped' by the science and medical professionals to shut everything down in the first place? And while I can't root for people to die, I can root for them to get sick and if they die, umm...err....oh well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Die Hard Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) Why masks? Nothing illegal going on right? Why not own your political ideals? I wonder what their opinions would be about.... hijabs? Edited April 20, 2020 by Die Hard 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Sinister Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 We need martial law 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, goskins10 said: If there is any justice in the world at all, there will be enough less of them due to their own ignorance that he will not get reelected. I would never root for anyone to die. But I will have a hard time feeling too bad for any of these idiots who make the decision to ignore protecting themselves and it comes back on them. You can't fix stupid! Looking at all those people on the street gunned and whatever **** they bring. This looks like riots in the making to me. And beginning of a Civil War. With an asshole as Trump at the helm, you can expect him to play it the right way for him and do nothing. Cancel incoming election and declare himself President for Life. Which won't end well. Then I would suggest many of you to find a home elsewhere, because it's really looking ugly from the outside. Edited April 20, 2020 by Wildbunny pretty... ugly... not pretty... Getting tired... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 People need to look up Bayes' theorem. if a test is 99% sensitive and 99% specific, and the population sick is 1%, what is the probability that a person who tested positive is actually sick? The number is 1 out of 2. So what happens is that when the % of sick people is really low, the false positives are very high. I looked at the numbers yesterday. If the actual sick is 2%, the positive will be slightly more than 60%. Now, if the sick is 5%, then the test will be correct more than 90% of the time. If I had to guess, not many sick people out there. I don't buy the 2 to 5%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, spjunkies said: I'm sure this will go just fine! Kemp is taking one for the team. This is the Trump campaign test case. As far as the places opening, one of the last places I’d go to with this going on is to the gym. **** that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 Fauci warns protests will 'backfire,' slow economic recovery Anthony Fauci, the top government official on infectious diseases, warned Monday that protests in opposition to governors' stay-at-home orders meant to slow the spread of the coronavirus will "backfire" and further delay the reopening of the economy. "Clearly this is something that is hurting from the standpoint of economics and the standpoint of things that have nothing to do with the virus, but unless we get the virus under control, the real recovery economically is not going to happen," Fauci said on "Good Morning America." "So what you do if you jump the gun and go into a situation where you have a big spike, you’re going to set yourself back," he said. "So as painful as it is to go by the careful guidelines of gradually phasing into a reopening, it’s going to backfire. That’s the problem." Click on the link for the full article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooked Crack Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 We'd be screwed if Hogan had married a Russian. Getting tests shouldn't depend on the nationality of the Governor's wife! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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c slag Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Side note about Harrisburg Pa , There is a small bar there called Zembie's sports tavern, which fills up with Redskins fans every Sunday to watch the game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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