Daily Beast: Jeffrey Epstein Arrested For Sex Trafficking of Minors. Ghislaine Maxwell guilty of sex trafficking a minor for Jeffrey Epstein and four other charges

[Spaceman Spiff]

1 hour ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

 

Put these two things together.  What happens if Bill Clinton, or some other big name is implicated of things that are not sex with minors?  I'm sure Epstein, being an man of extreme resources and a willingness to do the most awful things with those resources did A LOT of things that don't rise to the level of, well, sex trafficking of minors (which is basically every human activity except for murder).  What if Epstein and his buddies had consensual orgies with pornstars?  Is anyone going to look at Bill Clinton or David Blaine or Dustin Hoffman differently, especially in light of our current President's daily lowering of every bar?

 

Clinton with porn stars?  I think it'd just add to Bubba's legacy, quite frankly.  

Edited July 9, 2019 by Spaceman Spiff

[Koala]

5 minutes ago, Larry said:

I think it's an interesting and valid point.  I assume (hope?) that most of the people associated with him aren't kidnapped child molesters.  Most of them, I assume, are simply people who thought of him as a guy who throws cool parties.  (Or he's a campaign donor.)   

 

But it's also believable that lots of people wind up with lots of "lesser" dirt on them

What I gather from that list is that he is very well-connected (politically, socially, economically), from Washington DC to Hollywood.   

 

If rumor is true that hes got blackmail tapes on a lot of big names,then loook for him to plea down to 3 to 4 year prison sentence in exchange for keeping his mouth shut.

[LadySkinsFan]

I find it very interesting that Barr recused himself. Must be lots of dirt on lots of people regardless of political affiliation.

 

Everyone who committed felonies need to be prosecuted. And sex offender status if it applies.

 

The problem with these crimes continuing is because the charges are usually pled down and punishments aren't strong enough.

Edited July 9, 2019 by LadySkinsFan

[Skintime]

Nevermind

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[The Evil Genius]

 

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by The Evil Genius

[@DCGoldPants]

9 hours ago, LadySkinsFan said:

I find it very interesting that Barr recused himself. Must be lots of dirt on lots of people regardless of political affiliation.

 

Everyone who committed felonies need to be prosecuted. And sex offender status if it applies.

 

The problem with these crimes continuing is because the charges are usually pled down and punishments aren't strong enough.

 

Barr is another example of the Dems being too dumb to know how to fight back. They shouldn't mention Barr without mentioning his completely untrustworthyness since Iran-Contra. A man who will lie for his bosses at the expense of the United States at every turn.

 

Maybe he recused himself because he probably is aware he's only a degree or two from somebody who raped children for money. 

 

As far as the on the whole. I don't care if this were to take out a handful of prominent Dems as well. Sex Trafficking is Sex Trafficking and raping children is raping children. Doesn't matter if it were Trump or Bill Clinton. Doesn't matter if it's little girls or little boys for the Pence types. There is no level or ****ed up that is not ****ed up enough to describe this.

[Mr. Sinister]

3 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said:

 

Barr is another example of the Dems being too dumb to know how to fight back. They shouldn't mention Barr without mentioning his completely untrustworthyness since Iran-Contra. A man who will lie for his bosses at the expense of the United States at every turn.

 

Maybe he recused himself because he probably is aware he's only a degree or two from somebody who raped children for money. 

 

As far as the on the whole. I don't care if this were to take out a handful of prominent Dems as well. Sex Trafficking is Sex Trafficking and raping children is raping children. Doesn't matter if it were Trump or Bill Clinton. Doesn't matter if it's little girls or little boys for the Pence types. There is no level or ****ed up that is not ****ed up enough to describe this.

 

Not like we don't know he's a ****head already

 

#PickYourBattles

 

[@DCGoldPants]

1 minute ago, Mr. Sinister said:

 

Not like we don't know he's a ****head already

 

#PickYourBattles

 

 

It's not about battles. It's about creating a narrative that a lot of people still don't know. You don't mention Barr without mentioning Iran Contra and that he has a history of being a bad American. That's all.

[Mr. Sinister]

16 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said:

 

It's not about battles. It's about creating a narrative that a lot of people still don't know. You don't mention Barr without mentioning Iran Contra and that he has a history of being a bad American. That's all.

 

I agree. I'm just mocking/pissing on that narrative.

[@DCGoldPants]

25 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

 

I agree. I'm just mocking/pissing on that narrative.

 

Fair enough. Open to a better suggestion to make him look as bad as he is to more people. 

Edited July 9, 2019 by @SkinsGoldPants

[Mr. Sinister]

3 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said:

 

Fair enough. Open to a better suggestion to make him look as bad as he is to more people. 

 

Im pissing on my narrative ("pick your battles")

[TheGreatBuzz]

51 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said:

 

It's not about battles. It's about creating a narrative that a lot of people still don't know. You don't mention Barr without mentioning Iran Contra and that he has a history of being a bad American. That's all.

Problem is that the people who need to hear probably aren't educated enough to know what Iran Contra is.

[The Evil Genius]

6 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

Problem is that the people who need to hear probably aren't educated enough to know what Iran Contra is.

 

I'd suspect they know. They just don't care. Otherwise they wouldn't have made Ollie North a millionaire and a right wing hero.

Edited July 9, 2019 by The Evil Genius

[Cooked Crack]

 

[Llevron]

10 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

Problem is that the people who need to hear probably aren't educated enough to know what Iran Contra is.

 

Being honest, I didnt know what it was until you, benning and the rest got into a conversation about it. Its easy not to know these things. Thats what makes this so effective. 

[Mr. Sinister]

Its also why it must be brought into the light and talked about as often as possible

[Elessar78]

From our President, ladies and gentlemen:

 

In 2002, Mr. Trump described Mr. Epstein as “a terrific guy,” telling New York Magazine, “It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

[Chachie]

15 hours ago, China said:

 

So?

 

 

I'm not condemning any of them but the link was worthy of mention.

[Mooka]

Tim Kaine questioning Acosta about Epstein case during confirmation hearings (3/22/17) -

 

 

 

 

Part 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9aj9DoAnEM&t=273s

 

 

*Acosta was top story on Fox News for about 10 seconds. Guess someone didn't like where that was going. 

 

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by Mooka

[China]

Jeffrey Epstein prosecution could rise or fall on a single word

 

The new sex-trafficking prosecution against Jeffrey Epstein could rise or fall on how a judge interprets a single, rather mundane word.

 

The pivotal term — “globally” — lurks on the second page of a seven-page agreement signed in 2007 and finalized the following year, detailing a pledge by federal prosecutors in Florida not to prosecute Epstein for serial sexual abuse of underage girls if he pleaded guilty to two prostitution-related felonies in state court.

 

“IT APPEARING that Epstein seeks to resolve globally his state and federal criminal liability…” reads the document laying out what critics have described as a sweetheart deal well-connected defense lawyers won from the then-U.S. Attorney for Southern Florida Alex Acosta, who now serves as Labor secretary.

Some lawyers say Epstein’s future may turn on how much weight the courts give to that tricky adverb.

 

“That word is his best hope,” said Loyola Law School law professor Laurie Levenson, a former federal prosecutor.

 

Epstein’s attorneys are already arguing that the decade-old pact was intended to dispose of all potential claims that Epstein engaged in sexual abuse, sex trafficking, soliciting prostitution and similar crimes relating to his penchant for hiring underage girls to give him massages that included sex acts.

 

“How in the world can that deal be undone?” Epstein defense lawyer Reid Weingarten asked at Epstein’s arraignment Monday in Manhattan, where Epstein entered a plea of not guilty. “It sure seemed like a global [resolution] to everyone at the time, including my client.”

 

 

Prosecutors disagree. Before Epstein even appeared in court Monday, Geoffrey Berman, the U.S. Attorney in Manhattan, said the unusual non-prosecution agreement didn’t affect his office’s ability to go after Epstein in New York.

 

“That agreement only binds — by its terms, only binds the Southern District of Florida. The Southern District of New York is not bound by that agreement and is not a signatory to that agreement,” Berman said.

 

Click on the link for the rest

[bearrock]

2 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

Problem is that the people who need to hear probably aren't educated enough to know what Iran Contra is.

 

 

Am I close?

[LadySkinsFan]

I agree with Berman's take on the Florida plea deal. A document only applies in the Southern District of Florida, not globally. Good grief! 

 

Laurie Levenson is a handmaiden for the Right Wing, hardly unbiased. 

Edited July 9, 2019 by LadySkinsFan

[redskinss]

44 minutes ago, bearrock said:

Am I close?

Didn't you have to hit a,b twice before start?

 

Nope just Googled it. Just b then a then start.

Been a damn long time.

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by redskinss

[JSSkinz]

3 hours ago, Llevron said:

 

Being honest, I didnt know what it was until you, benning and the rest got into a conversation about it. Its easy not to know these things. Thats what makes this so effective. 

It's amazing to me that the story isn't discussed more.  The CIA declassified documents and have admitted that our government was letting Nicaragua ship tons of cocaine into Los Angeles to fund their war, the whole thing is insane.

 

 

[justice98]

This just seems crazy that this is all the sudden now a big deal.  This dude first got arrested over a decade ago, got adjudicated, and released, and nobody blinked.  He shoulda been under the jail then, except nobody cared.

 

If you've ever been on a  conspiracy theorist forum, those folks have been going nuts over Epstein and his connections for a long while.  The rest of the country is just now catching up.

Edited July 9, 2019 by justice98