megared Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: I agree that Smith clearly needs to improve. I also concur on the fact that making him a post June 1st cut is a very viable option. I personally am not overly worried over the whole dead cap debate, even though dead cap is never a good thing in the strictest sense. By the looks of the contract to me, the SB of 27mil takes away any out after 2 years. Perhaps the size of SB was the give away in negotiations? Although the guarantee kicking in next year takes that away too.... I'm the opposite, I don't necessarily care how much he makes, rather the effect on the cap. I'd hate to not be a position to re-sign some of our younger players because we are paying someone a salary that far exceeds his importance to this team. So theoretically, if Smith just completely stinks...we could walk away after this season (within the first 4 days of the new league year), with a cap hit of $20.4 M. In this scenario, there is no additional cap hit (as opposed to keeping him) because that's also his cap number for 2019. Highly unlikely, as we probably will have a strong record, and won't be in a position to draft a QB high. We had another out after the 2019 season originally that would've required us to designate him a post-June 1st cut, with the cap hit $5.4 M resulting in a cap savings of $16 M. This won't be viable after the fifth day of the new 2019 league year, where his 2020 salary then becomes fully guaranteed. So realistically, the first time we could look to cut ties is after the 2020 season, with a post-June 1st cut, that would also carry a cap hit of $5.4 M, but save us $19 M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazel-Ra Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Our o linemen are made of glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I want to start calling him "Angry Bird" Alex Smith. Got that squeaky weird ass laugh and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikeRedskin7 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSurrender Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Now thats a hold??? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSurrender Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Wierd how they see these pick plays all pf the sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, NeverSurrender said: Wierd how they see these pick plays all pf the sudden. Not sure what that has to do with this thread. But it’s pretty clear when they run through it vs. when they don’t. I don’t like it but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbeagle85 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 You guys do know this isn't the game day thread right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Franchise altering bungle of our QB situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: Franchise altering bungle of our QB situation Brad Johnson, Trent Green leaving bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I take back the promising things I said about alex. He's visibly scared to be on a damn football field. Just head scratching misses, I mean what the hell man, missing wide open guys by a mile. And that's after 3 seconds of the happiest of happy feet whether or not there's pressure. It's pretty awful and I don't see it changing. This team has absolutely no chance to win if they are behind at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I think all you need to know about Alex Smith is.... We play one of the worst defenses in the league, and he leads us to 14 points. At home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikeRedskin7 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Peregrine said: I think all you need to know about Alex Smith is.... We play one of the worst defenses in the league, and he leads us to 14 points. At home. FACTS!!!!! Smith is the third worse QB in the NFCE. Eli is worse, but not by much. Eli can throw downfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeermonkey Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 We would have been better off with the likes of Bridgewater and spend the money elsewhere. He is absolutely hopeless and I've said it before - he'll be sitting his ass before the end of this year, Gone by the end of next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacePenguin Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Season's halfway over and I'm not even angry watching Alex Smith play QB anymore. I laugh at him so predictably being utter trash, and I laugh at this organization (namely Bruce Allen) for not realizing what he was, when anyone with a pair of eyes and a modicum of football knowledge already knew. Smith reminds me of how I felt watching Jason Campbell or post 2012 Robert Griffin. He doesn't have the arm strength nor the accuracy to push the ball downfield to the sidelines. The entire offense has become slant routes and checkdowns. I can only hope his acquisition results in wholesale changes in the front office, but I remain doubtful on that front. I'm not tilted after a loss at all. I'm perfectly calm. The only thing that bothers me is that so many quality players on both sides of the ball for this football team are going to be constantly let down by this fraud of a front office which voluntarily acquired this fraud of a QB for the foreseeable future. At least there is extremeskins to read. You guys are great. We all deserve better than this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I've been crushing Alex all year but I'm an equal opportunity hater and I just can't put this on him, yes he's overpaid and yes he's boring but the run game was hideous and we got called for 8 holds, WTF is that? It seemed like every time we made a play it was called back, also those 2 drops by JD on that 2nd drive killed us. Then you have a defense getting gashed by RB's who haven't done anything all year, Falcons offense converting 3rd downs at 77%, 150 yards in penalties, who can win with that? I can't believe I'm sticking up for DJ checkdown but come on, that game was unwinnable due to the run game, penalties, and a defense that played so poorly they should be embarrassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I'm going to be a contrary voice. I think Alex played pretty well today. He got hit really hard by drops. Worse, every time we got a first down the refs negated it. Usually, they threw the flag after the play was over once they realized they needed to prevent the first down. Considering the drops, the penalties, and that Alex was playing with less than half of a starting o line and without two of his major play makers... I thought he had a solid game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanguard Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It's time for a change. I'm tired of watching him. He's not smart, he's not inspiring, and he doesn't throw downfield. I'm also not a fan of his character and personality as a QB in the NFL. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Not sure how any sane person could pin this loss on Smith. Hell, he’s damn near the only guy that even showed up today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeermonkey Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: Not sure how any sane person could pin this loss on Smith. Hell, he’s damn near the only guy that even showed up today. I'm not pinning the loss on him. He's just crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh32 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 They need to make Smith a june first cut..No way they can go into next year with that kind of QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacePenguin Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, thebeermonkey said: I'm not pinning the loss on him. He's just crap. This was one of his better games this year, and he was still god awful. That's what's really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It's so predictable how some of the biggest Kirk haters that time and time again tried to call out posters that support Kirk as making excuses are now using those same "excuses" that they scoffed and laughed at to forgive Smith of his ineptitude. Keep being hypocrites guys. We expect nothing less from you! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 He had his best drive and possibly best performance of the season in a slaughter. Still has happy feet and some woeful, wobbly passes at times and instills no confidence he’s going to take it down and score. But there are plenty of other places to point the finger in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: Not sure how any sane person could pin this loss on Smith. Hell, he’s damn near the only guy that even showed up today. I'll give him props for the Bobby Boucher run. Was yelling "You can diew it!" at the tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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