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So with Hampton, I'm reading a lot about "box safety" and "plays better closer to the line". Does that mean he's a guy you would sub in for obvious running downs? Along with the fierce LBs we have? Seems to be a trend with fiery tacklers here. The best QBs you face these days need to be contained. Is our defense going to run past them in an attempt to get them or...or I'm definitely over thinking, I'm not football smart enough to know these things. What I do know is this might as well be an expansion Team at this point. Exciting to see something new with new, talented guys orchestrating it. I mean we're about to draft one of each position lol, what's left, we grab a kicker?

Hm. Reminding myself that Peters builds a team using the entire draft. If that trade back made it a fourth 3rd rounder then...ok, there's a lot of holes to fill.

"He's a passer who just happens to be good at running" is the main RG3 PTSD point I just can't shake. I swear it was repeated over and over about RG3, from his killer combine 40, his awesome run vs the vikings, etc...come to think of it, that's the only explosive game changing run I can remember. And then he tried to be a pure passer and the rest is history. So I think the ability to run, as in speed is not so important, whereas the ability to run elusively is what's important. I think I read that Maye had more first down runs than any QB in college. Run when you need to and do it effectively/be able to pass on the run because you're going to be doing it a lot this year in Washington. The line still needs work. It's just too similar to RG3, I can't shake it. We've been a laughing stock, and with the new owner and new everyone, I'm thinking please can we just be a boring, effective team that's slowly building properly. I hate all this news about us. I want to be out of the news. I don't want to cringe every time JD takes off (it's usually unfair to clip a bunch of things together but his clips of being hit in college are brutal). I don't want to roll the dice. 2 years ago, hell, a few months ago, the consensus was Maye was obviously #2 only because Williams is so good. These men haven't taken a single snap since then, yet everyone's convinced that's switched around because we're so obsessed with football that we talk ourselves into different opinions. All that said, I will be stoked for JD if that's the case. I will be worried though. RG3 was where he was because of Andrew Luck, and here we are again. I just don't like seeing the same movie twice when I know it has a tragic ending.

My main bull**** call on this "executive" is the tweet saying "yeah I'm gonna deactivate, this is too risky". Someone truly in that position wouldn't say that, they would just do it. That said, it seems he called the Fields Pittsburg thing? Or was that tweet one second after it happened. Whatever the case, I agree what he's saying makes sense. I think the Daniels hype is just that. Wouldn't be surprised if he falls a bit.

Which first round QBs, let alone top 3 picks, have sat their first year in like, decades? Rodgers and Love? GB does their own thing lol. Actually good old Jason Candle sat a year I think? I'm sure I'm missing another or two, just saying, we're getting bored if we're having that discussion. #2 overall is having the offense...especially our new offense under new coaches..built around him and he's starting.

Yeah since when are we now sitting the #2 overall pick QB. And why do I feel like the only one terrified of Daniels because of major RG3 ptsd. The things I read about him are verbatim RG3 scouting reports. The only different word is the name... I know, they're different people but hey...ptsd and all...but what do I know. Seriously, I know I don't know much of anything when it comes to scouting QBs. The media guys aren't perfect either. Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers, Brady...I guess Purdy, Lamar...not only were they not top 2 picks, media guys weren't saying they were either. It also sure feels like the media swerves have gotten way out of control vs past years. A couple of these graphics showing mock scenarios are straight up click bait, borderline trolling. It's easy right, have a weird opinion and people can't wait to click on it and argue. Tale as old as the internet but man, this year seems worse. I just dont wanna get cute. I just want Maye. Prototype big fella who can move. It's a no brainer to me. I heard about Maye 2 years ago. I've seen these changes in opinion and draft position without seeing any knocks on Maye, just potential positives for some other guys. Media is bored. And everyone is media nowadays. I think the coming weeks will solidify what everyone knew already. Maye is easily the #2. Would be the #1 if not for Williams and honestly I'd be less suprised if Maye went to the Bears than if he dropped to some other team on some bull**** trade scenario.

A guy like Dan Quinn can lead a team to greatness if his QB is great. As in, equal to or greater than Matt Ryan. And I hate simplifications like that, but when it comes to QB I think it really is that simple. When it comes to coaching defense on the same team as Dak, it gets complicated...defense was great..had inuries..blew it vs green bay... how great IS Dak..who's really choking in those playoff games, dak or the defensive scheme...dallass gets all this attention and hype... what a mess. How about a nice boring no-hype - do what you do, be a leader, let your coaches coach, let your GM build the team, let your owner stay away like the great teams do. Problem here is everything is new, from the ground up. So expectations should be around a losing/growing season. I agree with those that predict we get better as the season goes on; opposite of last season. A big part of that is players believing that things can get better. This past season was: everyone's getting replaced, **** it. This coming season will be the opposite. I preach about "only QB matters" but it's a big team. It has to be built with the right players at the right positions with the right motivation. Seems Quinn is a hell of a motivator. Seems our GM is a hell of a team builder. We should stay excited as we were a week ago about Peters. We as fans have the impossible task of being patient lol. At the same time, we're expected to: A-trust new beginnings and B-act like it hasn't been a win now **** show for a quarter of a century. Shanahan was supposed to be "Snyder is hands off". Gruden was somewhere in the middle and Rivera was literally given control of everything. Snyder is gone. This is an expansion team. And so far it's being run like a normal team. Quinn is a "normal" hire. An experienced coach. The young coaches around the league look fun and all, but we don't have that luxury. We really gotta start from square one and I like it. So next season expectations? WHO THE HELL KNOWS. We are an absolute wildcard of a team. History says we get around .500 or worse this coming year but the QB will determine that. This will be the most exciting, promising offseason we've ever seen. I've already not cared much about wins and losses for awhile now. So let's not gripe about who should have been head coach and watch this team build.

"Yeah why didn't Harris and Peters simply hire all of the best perfect coaches at every position? Its not like there's 31 other teams or something. Are they stupid?" That's what a lot of this board sounds like right now.

Definitely seems like we wanted johnson or Macdonald first, but I don't see this as a "scraping the bottom, we blew it" thing. We made it clear we were doing an extensive search with lots of interviews. It would have been wise to list a few guys knowing there's no "first overall pick" here. The hate on Quinn is odd. He seems to be a good coach. We're only comparing to Ron because we just had him and we're hating Quinn because he wore a star last year or didn't win a superbowl? Good coaches coach for decades and don't win super bowls let alone get to them. We can't predict the future off of Ron's history or even Quinns. I'm sure the players will dig it. Get the right QB and everything will be fine.

I've learned that none of us know anything. The buzz around johnson makes me never trust a speculative tweet ever again (shouldn't have in the first place) . And I know even less about which coach is best...why was Johnson such a great idea anyway? Because the lions offense was good? What else? Did we expect that to instantly translate to success in Washington? Macdonald, because he's a defensive guy our offense would suck but our players would like him? We all like the idea of a young coordinator coach like the guy on the dolphins and our very own Sean mcvay and therefore no to anyone who's ever been a HC before? We're all over the place. We don't know ****. Now we're angry about Peters not being firmly sat in some office for the last 48 hours? We should stay excited about him. Team building doesn't happen in 48 hours. A coach is like a draft pick in this NFL world. We will see. We loved Johnson because some people said so. He was flaky, now we say we didn't want him anyway. I like the idea of a diligent process. And again, none of it will matter if the new QB sucks. They're certainly keeping that in mind with this search, I'm sure. This "best destination" for a new HC with the high pick, the cap room, the new owner, the great GM...suddenly seems like more of a big undertaking and not a stroll down easy street. There are no easy streets in the NFL. So I suppose it's no surprise that we're taking longer than everyone else.

Maybe it's just coping, but I'm staying with my opinion that the only thing that matters on your team is the QB. That's it. From owner down to water boy. As long as your team isn't a complete mess otherwise, which is why GM/ whoever evaluates and brings other players is 2nd most important. This coach search feels disappointing, but Johnson, Macdonald or whoever wouldn't make it very long if the rookie QB doesn't become great....of course a lot of that is up to the coach but sometimes I wonder just how much. I think the great QBs are just born with it. Definitely a coping mechanism here, but I'm more worried about whoever we get at QB "has it" and less worried about the coach being a "leader of men" and all that. I do wish it would be an offensive minded coach for that matter but beyond that, I'm not crying over being the last team without a coach.

Thanks so much to the folks in this thread that have followed/figured out all these draft order scenarios. I don't remember it being this complicated 😵‍💫 Lose today, seems we're in good shape. I see the talk about later round picks being shuffled around...we can only be talking about a spot or two right? Early seconds are important for sure, but jeez I'll take the way things have fallen the last few weeks.

I usually feel the same, but one of the reasons I didn't like Haskins is because "no good QBs out of Ohio state". Ohio state has usually been a good team and had a lot of good QBs that flaked out in the NFL. UNC isn't exactly known for great football players, so any QB coming from there could be great. Not a bunch of bad draft history there. That's why I like Maye, I'm being boring and going with "he's the prototypical QB". Don't want too much flash. Nice boring rebuild that works from the inside out.

I agree with all of that. I mean, it's not a matter of agreeing, it's just facts. It's been terrible. Still, celebrating his FIRING with big smiley emojys like "HAHA **** YOU RON" just doesn't feel right. And not just because of his health. I don't think he's a bad person and I don't think he deserves that "**** you good riddance" response. How bout a: "thanks for trying, boy we expected better, but great timing, everything's getting overhauled anyway, hope you stay in good health". Maybe it's just the thread title. I'm probably overreacting. I just don't have an ounce of hate for the guy.

I don't wanna celebrate Ron being fired. Maybe it hits home too much, but the cancer thing is a big deal to me. For a moment, we forgot about football and were rooting for his health. I'm not gonna start hating him 3 years later because the team sucks. Him being gone should mean a proper front office structure for once instead of "Hey the coach is in control of everything, we promise Snyder has no say". Sure he agreed to the situation, but it just wasn't what was best for the team. I really think he tried. I think he means it when he says it starts with culture and I think he was a big part of a culture change. I think I appreciate him standing there like a statue and not bull****-posturing around acting like we still got this or he's still got this. At least he seems to be honest. Not a bad thing anyone has to say about Ron besides his management of the team. I know that's a big one lol I'm just saying we didn't have video of him sitting on the ground outside of a bar and **** like that. Best of luck Ron. (Unless for some reason he stays then I'll become an asshole about it lol)