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      ES Coverage: Giants vs Redskins 
       
      12/9/18
       
      DEFEAT!!!
       
      Giants 40 - Redskins 16
       
      Greetings friends, JimmiJo here, and I am joined by my shivering partner, Spaceman Spiff. Together we will bring you this all important NFC East divisional matchup between the Washington Redskins and New York Giants.
       
      When I was last with you the Redskins had command of the division and there was optimism to spare. Since, devastating injuries to quarterbacks, linemen, and cornerbacks has left this team losers in 4-of-5 contests.
       
      But there is still everything to play for, and if they can manage a victory today and the Eagles to the same Washington will once again have a share of the lead.
       
      I can dream can't I?
       
      On paper, the future looks grim. A continued collapse will start the questions about the future of personnel and perhaps leadership. Yes, we can certainly point to injuries as the primary reason the team is struggling. But the record earlier in the year was masking some issues with the squad. No real arial threat. An inconsistent running game. And a defense that has been anything but consistent.
       
      But these are questions for another time. Today, it is just two teams looking for a win.
       
      See you at the half.
       
      Follow along on Twitter @Skinscast 
       
      Inactives
       
      The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy
      o   No. 32 RB Samaje Perine
      o   No. 46 RB Kapri Bibbs
      o   No. 52 LB Ryan Anderson
      o   No. 63 C Demetrius Rhaney
      o   No. 66 G Tony Bergstrom
      o   No. 99 DL Caleb Brantley
       
      JimmiJo
       
      I was happy to see players like Josh Johnson and Byron Marshall in the game. The marquee guys did not earn the right to play following the disastrous first half. It was historically bad.
       
      Never before had the Washington Redskins trailed by as much as the 34-0 deficit they entertained today at the half.
       
      I remarked to one of the writers that in 13-seasons I had never seen this team so outplayed as today. The offense led by Mark Sanchez was throw-up in mouth bad. At no point did you feel like they would or could score.
       
      I tweeted before the game that it is time for Daniel Snyder to replaced head coach Jay Gruden. Yes injuries are the headline. But the offense was poor before the injuries.
       
      No aerial threat and an inconsistent rushing. They only seemed to score 20-points per game.
       
      What they did do well was hold on to the ball. And the defense was a takeover machine the first half of the year.
      But turnovers tend to even out.
       
      So I was more than glad to see those ‘backups’ play. All they did was show they should have been playing in the first half.
       
      Especially Johnson. Take a look at your Redskins’ starter the rest of the way. From his first snap the offense looked different. There was energy. There was life.
       
      And there was threat.
       
      Johnson played with more command, accuracy and imagination than Mark Sanchez. He looked much more the accomplished quarterback.
       
      A word on Josh Doctson. You are an idiot. Without the stupid penalty you are not letting the safety out-position you to make the pick with 5-minutes left.
       
      Following this game, staring at the standings and considering possible scenarios for getting in the playoffs is fools’ gold. It is all about assessing who it worth keeping for next year.
       
      I don’t believe head coach Jay Gruden is going to make the list. Nor should he. He has had nore than enough time to do something here. He had Kirk Cousins’ starting over 3-full seasons.
       
      He had his chance.
       
      I tweeted before the game team owner Daniel Snyder should let Gruden go and bring in Mike McCarthy. Washington Post writer (and friend) Rick Snider made a great counterpoint to that idea:
       
      “Why would McCarthy want to come here? He has better options,” he said.
       
      That sure feels like the truth. And if so, it may explain why Gruden is fast becoming one of the most tenured coaches in the league.
       
      This was my last game for this season. I would like to thank Extremeskins and the team for the opportunity this year. I will see you guys next year.
       
      Let me go on the record now and say I do not think Jay Gruden's position here is secure. Not with the likes of Mike McCarthy available.
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How many Alabama players is that on the Redskins now? Six?

 

(Payne, Allen, Anderson, Hamilton, Sims, and now Dix).

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I definitely didn't expect this kind of move, I was content with sitting firm. Now we've added a top tier talent on defense to replace arguably our weakest link (Montae has flashed enough to prove that he can play, this digestion period may do well for him) at a far more reasonable price than I would have imagined. Not only that, if he meshes well and this goes as planned, we have first dibs to re-sign him and if not, he will guarantee at least a 4th round comp pick. This is the first trade that I can remember where I feel like we did the hosing. It's like I'm waiting for him to fail a physical or something and bring this back down to earth.

 

I "liked" just about a whole page of comments. Today is a good day.

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Chad Dukes on the radio is going crazy on how stupid his move was and should have gotten a top tier WR in Tate to improve Alex instead. Thoughts?

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6 minutes ago, SkinsGuy said:

How many Alabama players is that on the Redskins now? Six?

 

(Payne, Allen, Anderson, Hamilton, Sims, and now Dix).

7, Arie Kouandjio

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Monte needs more time in the cooker, this seems like a good move.

2 minutes ago, zskins said:

Chad Dukes on the radio is going crazy on how stupid his move was and should have gotten a top tier WR in Tate to improve Alex instead. Thoughts?

He is almost the type of guy that had an issue with any move. With that said, yes we need WR help but making that defense stronger is the better option I think.

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3 minutes ago, zskins said:

Chad Dukes on the radio is going crazy on how stupid his move was and should have gotten a top tier WR in Tate to improve Alex instead. Thoughts?

 

Chad Dukes is an idiot.

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3 minutes ago, zskins said:

Chad Dukes on the radio is going crazy on how stupid his move was and should have gotten a top tier WR in Tate to improve Alex instead. Thoughts?

Chad Dukes is the biggest moron on radio. If he thinks the trade sucks then it might actually be the greatest trade in sports history.

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2 minutes ago, slinky said:

7, Arie Kouandjio

 

I forgot about Arie. That guy is good interior OL depth for next season.

 

 

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1 minute ago, method man said:

I forgot about Arie. That guy is good interior OL depth for next season.

 

But NOT a starter. 

 

We still need to draft one in the top 3 rounds next year. ;)

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5 minutes ago, zskins said:

Chad Dukes on the radio is going crazy on how stupid his move was and should have gotten a top tier WR in Tate to improve Alex instead. Thoughts?

 

If that loud-mouth Dukes hates it, then it must be an awesome move. 

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Ballhawk, did we really need this? Mwha, would say no based on our D# production but we go now into a streak of games against passing teams. Not run teams. Haha wil help a lot against that. Get some vets in the middle to support the young corners on the outside.

 

Getting a WR or speed rusher would have been better for the team overall I think. But I like the player so I'm not going to be to harsh. 

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8 minutes ago, zskins said:

Chad Dukes on the radio is going crazy on how stupid his move was and should have gotten a top tier WR in Tate to improve Alex instead. Thoughts?

 

Dukes likes being the contrarian.

 

Tate is good, I am not sure if he's THAT good.  I understand where he's coming from but we'd need like...Randy Moss in his prime to improve Alex.

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4 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

Dukes likes being the contrarian.

 

Tate is good, I am not sure if he's THAT good.  I understand where he's coming from but we'd need like...Randy Moss in his prime to improve Alex.

 

No ... we just really need a better QB. 

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11 minutes ago, zskins said:

Chad Dukes on the radio is going crazy on how stupid his move was and should have gotten a top tier WR in Tate to improve Alex instead. Thoughts?

 

Tate is older, a problem for a skill position like WR. Also, if the D has a weakness it's in the secondary. If he thinks WR was  bigger need, Ok fine. But to say this was a stupid move is pretty silly. It's a very good move no matter what else you may have wanted them to do. 

 

 

 

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The only reason I was upset about us not getting Tate was that he went to Philadelphia.  I was having a hard time seeing how we could be successful covering Jeffery, Agholor, and Tate.  With Clinton-Dix, we should welcome the challenge.  I think we're much better prepared to cover the Falcons, the Bucs and the Texans, not to mention Cooper and Beasley, and even the lowly OBJ and co. 

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34 minutes ago, zskins said:

Chad Dukes on the radio is going crazy on how stupid his move was and should have gotten a top tier WR in Tate to improve Alex instead. Thoughts?

This is a guy with no football background who spends his afternoons talking about fast food.

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1 hour ago, justice98 said:

So we're cool with a 4th for a rental safety?  A minute ago, we werent cool with a rental WR.

 

Yeah I’m not cool with it - I look for us to extend him either now or before he hits free agency or this is a waste of a draft pick IMO.

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2 minutes ago, MartinC said:

 

Yeah I’m not cool with it - I look for us to extend him either now or before he hits free agency or this is a waste of a draft pick IMO.

 

Not really. They will get a compensation pick back. And it's only a 4th. Having said that, I would agree it would make much more sense to sign him long term. they must feel like they can get that done. 

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Talk earlier in the year that was Clinton-Dix is looking for an 8m p/y deal. Not sure what he gets, but I'd expect us to extend him and restructure DJ with an equivalent  pay rise/contract at some stage. 

 

I will happily take these 2 as our starting safeties for a few years from this point.

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9 minutes ago, MartinC said:

 

Yeah I’m not cool with it - I look for us to extend him either now or before he hits free agency or this is a waste of a draft pick IMO.

 

If he walks then we get an extra 3rd comp pick in 2020. We are stacked with picks in 2019. Worst case scenario is we have swapped a 2019 4th when we are loaded to a 2020 3rd when we dont know what we'll have in terms of picks. There is literally nothing to **** and moan about.

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17 minutes ago, JSSkinz said:

This is a guy with no football background who spends his afternoons talking about fast food.

 

Yeah he is just a Redskins fan and into computer games, WWE and food... lol

 

When he had Finley come in he corrected Chad on how it makes sense to go with a DL than a WR. I could tell Finley didn't want to butt head with Dukes so he said in a way not to upset him. Duke in that conversion did say it was a good move but felt a WR would have been better. 

 

Duke is like most of us here where we want to see an offense like the Saints and the Falcons. Finley was great and said let's say the D is at 8.5 and now they are going to be 9.5 but the offense is 5.5 and adding a WR will bump them up to 6.5 so adding a DL has a better value. He was spot on with his reasoning. I liked it. :)

 

 

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3 hours ago, NickyJ said:

I guess Dix is the end of the Montae Nicholson Experience?

This will be interesting. I didn't really see this as a need at first. Does Montae take a back seat? seeing that Gruden named him as the defense's version of Jordan Reed?

 

But after further review....

Here is what I think the Skins are doing....I think the Redskins are preparing for the back end of the season where they'll probably be playing a lot of big nickle packages against "12 personnel" offenses (like the Falcons & Eagles). "12 personnel" is one RB, two TEs and two WRs. So the Redskins my defend that by placing Montae or Clinton as the extra safety that acts as a hybrid linebacker/cornerback. One will be responsible for covering tight ends and receivers in the slot. They'll also defend the run which I think both are good at although the play of Payne, Allen and "Ion Man" makes it easy. They both have the size, strength and length to match up with big-bodied, pass-catching tight ends.

 

Ironically, DJ was just talking (indirectly) about Clinton in the post game interview. Fact is, the Redskins now have the top two Safeties in the league. So I like the trade. Ha-Ha is no joke.

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