skinny21 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Agreed @Vanguard. We have 2 guys that have loads of potential (Doctson and Pryor), and three very good pass catchers (Reed, Crowder and Thompson). Pryor seemed like the consensus #1 FA WR target this year... and after a few drops (granted, a very high drop rate) people have strong doubts about him. Looking forward to seeing what comes of this group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 30 minutes ago, Santana_89 said: I am not brimming with all this enthusiasm that some others seem to have. The only known playmakers are Crowder, Reed and V Davis....I will even include Niles Paul in that group, outside of that I'm crossing my fingers with Pryor, Doctson, Grant, Harris etc. Pryor was kind of a bigtime playmaker in the NFL last year, maybe you missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 6 hours ago, jschuck12001 said: I can't tell if the issue is Kirks unfamiliarity with the new WR's or if it's on the WR's. If you look at those pics in Doug Farrar's recent article they don't lie, guys are open but I don't know if he cherry picked on those examples of Kirk starring down his 1st read and never getting to the 2nd or 3rd. In the one on one interview KC explained that he was given direction to throw to specific targets regardless of coverage. He said he'd go to the line and be able to see it was the wrong coverage for the play, but had to deliver it to the target anyway. One of those was the fade to Grant. Maybe this sheds a little light on some pre-season targets. After hearing that I'm just joining the crowd that's holding WR grades until after the games count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_89 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 5 hours ago, XxSpearheadxX said: Pryor was kind of a bigtime playmaker in the NFL last year, maybe you missed it. That was last year and on a different team no less. Pryor is a second year receiver in a whole new system with a different qb, etc. So while I hope he has the same sucess as last season and even more, I am not counting my chickens until they hatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportjunkie07 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Im not worried. This receiving group is better than last year's imo. Well the ceiling is much higher anyways and the floor isn't much lower. I doubt doctson works out but I'm expecting big things from reed, pryor, and crowder. I expect that grant will do better than people think. I haven't had a chance to watch much preseason so maybe that's why I'm not worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacoby66forHOF Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 11 hours ago, Santana_89 said: I am not brimming with all this enthusiasm that some others seem to have. The only known playmakers are Crowder, Reed and V Davis....I will even include Niles Paul in that group, outside of that I'm crossing my fingers with Pryor, Doctson, Grant, Harris etc. Not sure I would put Davis or Paul in the play maker category. Davis is a complimentary player at this point in his career and Paul, who knows what he is. He hasn't played in 2 years and he hasn't played in his current jacked up form. I am very intrigued to see what Paul can contribute, but he falls in the question mark category for me along with Pryor, Doctson and Grant. 10 hours ago, XxSpearheadxX said: Pryor was kind of a bigtime playmaker in the NFL last year, maybe you missed it. Lets be reality. Julio Jones, Antonio Brown and AJ Green are big time play makers. Pryor is not in that category. Especially considering arguably the worst team in the NFL, who is desperate for play makers, let him walk in the off-season. He has the potential to be a play maker but let him realize that potential first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakmoney61 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I have one word to describe how I feel about the WRs and it's uneasy. I think Doctson is causing my negative vibe. I just want to see the man on the field and we really haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordranger76 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Can't believe they cut Mo for Quick. Bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksun247 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Is Quick still a definite lock for the 53? There are still more cuts to come. Maybe another surprise WR makes the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordranger76 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, ksun247 said: Is Quick still a definite lock for the 53? There are still more cuts to come. Maybe another surprise WR makes the roster. Not a lock just my guess. I should have clarified that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Jacoby66forHOF said: Lets be reality. Julio Jones, Antonio Brown and AJ Green are big time play makers. Pryor is not in that category. Especially considering arguably the worst team in the NFL, who is desperate for play makers, let him walk in the off-season. He has the potential to be a play maker but let him realize that potential first. Ok I should have left out bigtime. But he had pretty damn good stats with terrible QBs, over 1000 yards with terrible QBs. And we know why Pryor didn't sign with the bowns is because he wanted the chance to get a generational wealth kind of contract (hes never really had a good contract) so he signed with a team who has a "proven" QB to give him the best chance. He absolutely is a playmaker. Smart money is on 10 tds and 1000 yards for him this year. Plus he blocks like a champ 1 hour ago, fordranger76 said: Can't believe they cut Mo for Quick. Bad move. Meh harris is still practice squad eligible, thats most likely why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacoby66forHOF Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 minute ago, XxSpearheadxX said: Ok I should have left out bigtime. But he had pretty damn good stats with terrible QBs, over 1000 yards with terrible QBs. And we know why Pryor didn't sign with the bowns is because he wanted the chance to get a generational wealth kind of contract (hes never really had a good contract) so he signed with a team who has a "proven" QB to give him the best chance. He absolutely is a playmaker. Smart money is on 10 tds and 1000 yards for him this year. Plus he blocks like a champ After Robert Griffin I am just cautious about proclaiming a player an absolute anything after 1 year. Pryor has potential, no doubt, but teams have tape on him now. If he puts up better numbers this year I'll jump on the absolute bandwagon with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napredskins1 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I really think B. Quick can be good once he gets comfortable with Cousins. For years we've wanted big WRs and now we have 3 of them now. Hopefully it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Without Quick we'd be awful young and raw. Grant is our vet mentor of the bunch. Coaches may value a guy on the field that knows all routes more than a "better" player that cannot gain that same trust. Jay doesn't care if you drop the odd ball or slip, as long as you are always in place and on time. Maybe we'll see Hazel or Harris back in week 13 after proving to Jay for 12 weeks that they can be trusted for a few plays. I think Quick was the best insurance for Doctson and Pryor for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo'sRangers Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Interesting tweet. We never really saw Brain this preseason. We all have our preferences, but Brian may have been forgotten in the whole mix. All the cameras & eyes were on Pryor, JDoc, and others. Maybe he will do better for us than we think. I liked this tweet personally... ✔@john_keim Yep. Ike hilliard said last week that Quick had made more plays in camp than "all the other receivers combined." https://twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/904038442782351361 … 1:49 PM - Sep 2, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacoby66forHOF Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Keeping Quick shows the coaching staff saw a lot of question marks in the receiving Corps. They needed experience to offset some of them. Specifically Doctson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Where was the reporting on Quick all through camp? He was a tall shiny new toy, too. Maybe Ike just said that to validate him making the 53 and give him a vote of confidence. Chart Quick's career stats by year. A rare late bloomer whose stock is on the rise. He may well plateau and that is fine, he's a tall vet which goes a long ways of late. But I cannot be the only one that projected keeping him, albeit with more than 5WRs. What sealed my thinking was hearing the XM guys say <20 combined RECs first 2 years means no NFL career. Quick had already beaten the odds, while his competition is still struggling to get to 20. Edit: Heads will explode when he scores our first red zone passing TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinssRvA Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Very bad today. Pryor is exactly what I thought, an elite athlete but not yet a WR. TOo many drops. Crowder was invisible. Doctson, maybe played 5 snaps. Reed even was nothing. My god the brightest spot was ryan grant. Poor play designs by jay, poor execution by Kirk and this group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Work in progress at best. Among the league's worst at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Terrelle Pryor is officially our new Rod Gardner aka 50/50. I was actually impressed by how open Pryor could get on almost any route he ran, but the fact that he seemed to drop half the balls thrown his way is not good. Also, what is the deal with Doctson, did he play much? It's hard to understand why Mo Harris was cut, when he was on the field making plays last season, and you have a bunch of other WRs who can't do jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Still very concerned. Doctson doesn't exist and Pryor still can't catch and looks like he's in concrete coming out of his breaks, looks much better in drills than a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 It was a coming out party for Grant with Crowder limping. I really thought it would be Josh. I fear Jay has lost faith in him, or ? I figured Crowder would get a decoy load today. -.3 on fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CjSuAvE22 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Docston hardly seeing the field is very concerning.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportjunkie07 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Pretty bad so far. I was expecting a bit of a slow start but pryor dropping those passes was pretty bad. Reed looked partially injured. Wasn't expecting much from doctson anyways. Kirk being inaccurate didn't help. Im not too worried, it's only 1 game (albeit an important loss) and I think Kirk and wr group will get and get a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csup Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I don't want to get too analytical - but they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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