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Bozo the kKklown Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Goddamn crock of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Yes... perhaps America is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Even Forbes eyes the Manafort sentence poorly. https://www.forbes.com/sites/charlestiefer/2019/03/07/the-judge-who-let-manafort-off-easy-with-47-months-is-an-arch-conservative/#18b050a15256 The Judge Who Let Manafort Off Easy With 47 Months Is An Arch-Conservative Instead, this weak sentence sends these kind of messages of a conservative judge: it is not so bad to use Republican connections to cash in with Putin’s allies; Trump’s campaign manager is worthy of much, much more respect than in the Sentencing Guidelines; Mueller’s quest for the Russia connection deserves little help, and some messages. (snip) Take a comparison of the Manafort case with another prosecution of a political figure, a black Democratic Congressman from a black district in Louisiana named William J. Jefferson. Jefferson’s case was basically bribery. It was nationally famous because agents raiding his house found cash in the freezer. Manafort may have gotten off easy with four years, but Ellis threw the book at Jefferson. In 2009 Ellis sentenced Jefferson to 13 years, the longest sentence of any Congressman to that date. (After further twists and turns Ellis let off Jefferson in December 2017 for five years time served.) It seems that while Judge Ellis can sympathize with Manafort, the Republican presidential campaign manager, he did not sympathize with Jefferson. Pretty pathetic. One more reason why the GOP has been so hellbent on stacking the courts has been revealed. It's not about abortion or gun rights. It's about Get Out of Jail Free (or mostly free) cards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: Yes... perhaps America is done. Its doing what it is supposed to do: making sure wealthy white men don’t face justice for their many crimes. The sick thing about the Ellis decision is that it falls in line with white collar crime convictions. Some how making your money through defrauding and international crime doesn’t mean as much as a black or brown person walking around with an ounce of weed. This country is at its core sick and always has been. And McConnell has been stacking the court with more and more judges like this. 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 51 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: Its doing what it is supposed to do: making sure wealthy white men don’t face justice for their many crimes. The sick thing about the Ellis decision is that it falls in line with white collar crime convictions. Some how making your money through defrauding and international crime doesn’t mean as much as a black or brown person walking around with an ounce of weed. This country is at its core sick and always has been. And McConnell has been stacking the court with more and more judges like this. It’s a really pathetic indictment of our democracy as well. The voting population is so poorly informed and disconnected from reality, that this kind of nonsense isn’t political suicide. The GOP can simultaneously run on anti-elite platforms while using all the power at their disposal to stack every branch of government in service of the elites. It would be so laughably dumb if it wasn’t a sign of a failing system of governance. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 It's all our fault. If we weren't so collectively stupid, they wouldn't have the balls to try this ****. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: It's all our fault. If we weren't so collectively stupid, they wouldn't have the balls to try this ****. Agreed. This is the worst I’ve felt about things in a while. Too stunned for words at this point. Hoping for a better tomorrow. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said: Agreed. This is the worst I’ve felt about things in a while. Too stunned for words at this point. Hoping for a better tomorrow. Did you see we traded for Case Kennum? That kinda ****s on the entire weekend Edited March 8, 2019 by Momma There Goes That Man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 15 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Is prosecution able to appeal sentence? This is a good question and one I had as well. From what I can find the answer is yes, they absolutely can as long as there are legit concerns about the sentence that was handed down. In this case I'd be very surprised if Mueller's team doesn't appeal, as the sentence is so grossly out of line with the DoJ's sentencing guidelines, and because the judge seemed to go out of his way to side with Manafort (an otherwise blameless life? are you ****ING KIDDING ME?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 "An otherwise blameless life" is particularly disgusting given that he is due sentencing next week for entirely different crimes. I think we are all aware of what happened here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Goddamn activist liberal judges 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 "An otherwise blameless life" sounds like a good title for Paul Manafort's biography. Hopefully after he dies in jail and the proceeds can go to his poor abused wife. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I'm honestly more shocked you guys didn't expect this kind of thing from the jump. Like yall didnt know the justice system was ****ed and that men like Manafort benefited greatly from that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 With Liberty and Justice for all. **** your ****ing pledge. Another lie. ~Bang 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) This thread is going to be poppin' once Trump pardons Manafort in a couple of weeks. Edited March 8, 2019 by NoCalMike 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Burgold said: Even Forbes eyes the Manafort sentence poorly. The judge and Manafort probably play golf together. 🤨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chachie said: The judge and Manafort probably play golf together. 🤨 ... or the NRA made a donation via Moscow to the Judge's grandaughter's scholarship fund. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Worse, according to NPR this morning, it’s unclear whether the next case will result in consecutive or concurrent sentencing. I didn’t realize “minimum sentencing guidelines” and “mandatory minimum” were different things. I didn’t know a judge could undercut minimum sentencing guidelines by so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chachie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, visionary said: Those House of Reps committees are just adorable with their hopes and dreams, eh? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bang said: With Liberty and Justice for all. **** your ****ing pledge. Another lie. ~Bang Or in the words of The Almighty Steve Vai... "WHICH liberty and justice for all?" ~Passion and Warfare Edited March 8, 2019 by skinsmarydu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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