Hersh Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Trump is nice to all of our enemies, not just Putin. That's factually not right. He's actually started a trade war with China. Having said that, looking into ties with Saudi Arabia as it relates to Kushner is important too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: I don’t think paying an adult entertainer to keep her mouth shut is a high crime... It's a crime though, and the phrase is "high crimes and misdemeanors".https://www.vox.com/2018/12/12/18138213/trump-illegal-hush-payments-women-explained 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Even if hes not aware of the collusion, which is a stretch by any means really, he is definitely involved in the cover up. The thing with Junior where he lied and said the meeting was about adoption, clear as day cover up. And there are emails, and witnesses to prove it. They have already admitted to it. That right there, knowing that Russia hacked out election at the time is a problem with or without knowledge that there was actually any help. You cannot absolve him of that no matter how you try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Hersh said: That's factually not right. He's actually started a trade war with China. Having said that, looking into ties with Saudi Arabia as it relates to Kushner is important too. China is not actually our enemy, they are an important trade partner.. starting a trade war with them, not smart. NK and Russia actively work against the interested of the US. Edited March 6, 2019 by CousinsCowgirl84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: (From the other thread) Trumps campaign definitely colluded, I’m not blind. Did trump himself do something illegal, mueller will tell us. "Well, yeah, it's a fact that every one of his hand-picked subordinates participated in anti-American conspiracy, but it's possible that the person who hand picked them (and who, BTW, makes a point about emphasizing what a hands-on meddler he is, in everything he does) was completely unaware, and didn't hand pick them specifically for this purpose. " "No doubt some local fisherman, out for a pleasure cruise, at night, in eel-infested waters." Edited March 6, 2019 by Larry 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: China is not actually our enemy, they are an important trade partner.. starting a trade war with them, not smart. NK and Russia actively work against the interested of the US. Are you suggesting China doesn't actively work against the interests of the US? You gotta do some research on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: I don’t think paying an adult entertainer to keep her mouth shut is a high crime... Would you say it is better or worse than getting head from an intern and lying about it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Hersh said: Are you suggesting China doesn't actively work against the interests of the US? You gotta do some research on that. No, you are right, I had forgotten about the cyber warfare stuff 16 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Would you say it is better or worse than getting head from an intern and lying about it? probably better... it’s close though, in Clinton’s case he was in a position of authority over the intern. The logic that “Republicans did something foolish so now democrats have every right to act foolish” is foolish. I can only guess that is your point... the republicans did it so why can’t the democrats? Right? Edited March 6, 2019 by CousinsCowgirl84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Colony Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Larry said: "No doubt some local fisherman, out for a pleasure cruise, at night, in eel-infested waters." "No Collusion" "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: I don’t think paying an adult entertainer to keep her mouth shut is a high crime... Honestly, I never cared much about that either. Consensual stuff. Should not matter in the big picture. As an admitted hater, I'd love to see him go down for anything- even this, because of campaign finance illegality but I don't care who he bumps uglies with and don't really hold the "act" against him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, Chachie said: Honestly, I never cared much about that either. Consensual stuff. Should not matter in the big picture. As an admitted hater, I'd love to see him go down for anything- even this, because of campaign finance illegality but I don't care who he bumps uglies with and don't really hold the "act" against him. Agree. I think most of us do. Problem is he paid for it as President and we have every reason to believe he did it when he did to cover it up during the campaign. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 59 minutes ago, Chachie said: Honestly, I never cared much about that either. Consensual stuff. Should not matter in the big picture. As an admitted hater, I'd love to see him go down for anything- even this, because of campaign finance illegality but I don't care who he bumps uglies with and don't really hold the "act" against him. Isn't that what took down John Edwards? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 45 minutes ago, Barry.Randolphe said: Isn't that what took down John Edwards? He was indicted on felony charges but he was done for having an affair and knocking up a women after his wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: The logic that “Republicans did something foolish so now democrats have every right to act foolish” is foolish. I can only guess that is your point... the republicans did it so why can’t the democrats? Right? I think perhaps the logic is Republicans impeached Clinton over the one so... And Trump's behavior is actually criminal in addition to immoral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, Hersh said: He was indicted on felony charges but he was done for having an affair and knocking up a women after his wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. True. He was acquitted but his political career was over. Simpler days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonSkin Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, RedskinsFan44 said: I think perhaps the logic is Republicans impeached Clinton over the one so... And Trump's behavior is actually criminal in addition to Well, to be precise, Clinton was impeached because he committed perjury not because he got a blowjob. Like Trump, Clinton had his fair share of shadiness, misogyny and sexual assaults. Maybe the Dems will catch Trump in a similar trap. My guess is that he will be impeached, but will finish out his term. 75% chance he gets charged with something and 25% chance he's found guilty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, HoustonSkin said: Well, to be precise, Clinton was impeached because he committed perjury not because he got a blowjob. Like Trump, Clinton had his fair share of shadiness, misogyny and sexual assaults. Maybe the Dems will catch Trump in a similar trap. My guess is that he will be impeached, but will finish out his term. 75% chance he gets charged with something and 25% chance he's found guilty. To also be precise, Trump's legal issue is not that he was cheating on his pregnant wife with 1 pornstar and 1 playmate, it's that he paid them hush money not to talk about it during his campaign for the presidency, and covered it up, which are felony campaign finance law violations. Edit: I'll go with 50% chance he gets impeached by the House, 0% chance he's found guilty in the Senate. 90% chance he gets charged and convicted of something upon leaving office. Edited March 6, 2019 by PleaseBlitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: I don’t think paying an adult entertainer to keep her mouth shut is a high crime... Gotta be honest, I was at first trying to figure out if you were making a dirty joke here. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, HoustonSkin said: Well, to be precise, Clinton was impeached because he committed perjury not because he got a blowjob. Like Trump, Clinton had his fair share of shadiness, misogyny and sexual assaults. Maybe the Dems will catch Trump in a similar trap. My guess is that he will be impeached, but will finish out his term. 75% chance he gets charged with something and 25% chance he's found guilty. All this is true, but the hypocrisy comes in when the GOP says "the scope of the investigation is too big." The Clinton-Monica-Perjury stuff all began with the White water investigation which produced absolutely nothing. Then it continued to morph until it lead to something they could corner Clinton on, which was the affair. Out of all the supposed sinister things the GOP thought they could nail Clinton on, the actual impeachment ended up being him lying under oath about a BJ. How about Hillary and Benghazi. Every single time they investigated, she was found to have done nothing wrong, but they kept holding hearings over and over again. Again, the hypocrisy is off the charts on this overall issue of "wide net investigations" There is a reason Trump said 2 years ago he didn't want people looking into his finances, and I am pretty sure it's not because he might have made a filing error in good faith. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: The logic that “Republicans did something foolish so now democrats have every right to act foolish” is foolish. I can only guess that is your point... the republicans did it so why can’t the democrats? Right? NoCalMike pretty much summed it up. I wasn't condoning the Dems doing something hypothetically so much as pointing out the GOP hypocrisy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, HoustonSkin said: Well, to be precise, Clinton was impeached because he committed perjury not because he got a blowjob. Well, to be precise, Clinton was impeached because the GOP had spent four years abusing Congress' powers to conduct a political opposition research fishing expedition, the voters had finally gotten fed up with it and it had cost them some seats, and the lame ducks needed something that they could pretend retroactively justified the expedition. Edited March 6, 2019 by Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Larry said: Well, to be precise, Clinton was impeached because the GOP had spent four years abusing Congress' powers to conduct a political opposition research fishing expedition, the voters had finally gotten fed up with it and it had cost them some seats, and the lame ducks needed something that they could pretend retroactively justified the expedition. Bill Clinton was impeached for obstruction of justice and if Nixon had not resigned, he was facing the same charge. Donnie T has obstructed justice about 500 times since 2016. Edited March 6, 2019 by Chachie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Clinton was impeached for 2 things: Lying to a grand jury (about Lewinsky) and also obstruction of justice. There were, i believe, 2 other articles of impeachment that did not pass the House. I forget what they were. Trump will never, ever go in front of a grand jury, because he can't open his mouth without lying, and you are correct, he obstructs justice, publicly, on freaking Twitter, on a seemingly daily basis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DogofWar1 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Suborning perjury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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