Isifhan Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 10 hours ago, RedskinsMayne said: No country in europe is going to stop sharing intelligence over this. They need our military and our money to fight ISIS and they have more to lose in the immediate sense if isis grows stronger. Well - look at that https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/european-official-to-ap-country-might-stop-sharing-intel-with-us-if-trump-gave-classified-info-to-russian-diplomats/2017/05/16/d0bd76fc-3a3a-11e7-a59b-26e0451a96fd_story.html?utm_term=.24b94bda97bd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 There goes the media again using unnamed countries. This is why no one believes the press anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 They might do a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 BBC news had a guy on who said this puts intelligence agents in an impossible situation where they can't simultaneously inform the President and protect the country's security interests, both of which they are sworn to do. This spells it out. Clock is ticking. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/05/16/trump-is-a-serious-threat-to-national-security-commentary.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'm curious how Fox News watchers feel about Fox not covering the story (calls for more Hillary investigations were on the front page for hours after this story broke). Trump has admitted that he leaked the info. Its not fake news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: They don't care dude. They really don't give two ****s about anything except D & R. You know how much time & money & frenzied energy was spent on the whole email thing? Well it certainly wasn't because they care so much about classified information or carelessness with our intelligence. The last little flicker of hope left that party months ago. And for what? For Donald ****ing Trump? The GOP is an infestation. GOP's Theme Song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Burgold Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, codeorama said: I'm curious how Fox News watchers feel about Fox not covering the story (calls for more Hillary investigations were on the front page for hours after this story broke). Trump has admitted that he leaked the info. Its not fake news. I am hoping there is a newsroom revolt. I can't imagine a lot of reporters, producers, and editors are feeling good about ignoring and not being part of a top news story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Fox right now is pushing a conspiracy that a DNC staffer was murdered because he was communicating with WikiLeaks. Despite the guys family saying that the conspiracy is baseless. But Fox don't care. They've gone full InfoWars. I am sure that the rights downward spiral into the nutjob conspiracy wing is also somehow the liberals fault. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 hours ago, haithman said: eagerly awaiting the RedskinsMayne spin zone Fingers crossed he attempted my mental re-imaging exercise and his head exploded. 7 minutes ago, No Excuses said: Fox right now is pushing a conspiracy that a DNC staffer was murdered because he was communicating with WikiLeaks. Despite the guys family saying that the conspiracy is baseless. But Fox don't care. They've gone full InfoWars. I am sure that the rights downward spiral into the nutjob conspiracy wing is also somehow the liberals fault. Where's Jim Jones when you need him 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Tillerson: "He didn't do it." McMasters: "He didn't do it." Dina Powell: "He didn't do it." Trump: "I did it." Fox News: "Who told the Post?" Is this pretty much where we're at? 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, No Excuses said: Fox right now is pushing a conspiracy that a DNC staffer was murdered because he was communicating with WikiLeaks. Despite the guys family saying that the conspiracy is baseless. But Fox don't care. They've gone full InfoWars. I am sure that the rights downward spiral into the nutjob conspiracy wing is also somehow the liberals fault. 53 minutes ago, codeorama said: I'm curious how Fox News watchers feel about Fox not covering the story (calls for more Hillary investigations were on the front page for hours after this story broke). Trump has admitted that he leaked the info. Its not fake news. Here's some cynical icing on that Fox News cake. There is nothing in the DNC staffer story that's particularly timely. It's something they've had in the hopper for awhile, just waiting for a time to publish. Then, surprise, on the day after news comes out that Trump ****ed up royally, they release it as counterprogramming to blunt the news of Trump's careless idiocy. How much more callous can a news organization be? Edited May 16, 2017 by Dan T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, codeorama said: I'm curious how Fox News watchers feel about Fox not covering the story (calls for more Hillary investigations were on the front page for hours after this story broke). Trump has admitted that he leaked the info. Its not fake news. While it's nice to hope that there will be some epiphany of honor and truth that finally allows them to report on the situation as it is, we know better. They will double down on it all, and try to sow as much dischord as they can. No matter what happens.. if impeachment proceedings begin, they will deflect and blame the democrats, call them traitors,scream for the heads of leakers who are the spawn of the devil and are trying to subvert their president's attempts to lead. When it all falls down, they will continue to blame democrats, and they will convince their audience that a great injustice has been done, regardless of how much comes out, which will be branded "fake'.. oh sorry... "FAKE".. Their followers won't give in, and will believe everything Fox tells them. When it comes down, they will be convinced their republic has been stolen. Fox will do nothing to dissuade them. They will then begin the campaign to canonize Mike Pence and make sure everyone knows that no matter how bad Trump compromised us or what the damages eventually are, it will be blamed on the democrats, and they will do what they can to dog whistle for revolt.. at the ballot box, or otherwise. ~Bang 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dan T. said: How much more callous can a news organization be? Fox is not a news organization, they are a propaganda organization. If people didn't believe that in the past, they should now. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dan T. said: And here's some cynical icing on that Fox News cake. There is nothing in that story that's particularly timely. It's something they've had in the hopper for awhile, just waiting for a time to publish. Then, surprise, on the day after news comes out that Trump ****ed up royally, they release it as counterprogramming to blunt the news of Trump's careless idiocy. How much more callous can a news organization be? Watching them try their hardest to minimize or talk around every Trump story is interesting to watch. At the beginning of Fox and Friends this morning, even they were having a hard time with it and they'll excuse just about anything. But their trick is to just not spend any time discussing it when they have nowhere to go, so after the first 10 minutes, they'll do some story about a cat up a tree or some such thing. Tucker Carlson spent half the show talking about the ransomware attack. Not an insignificant story, but this Trump story was blowing up at the time vs a 2 day old one. Edited May 16, 2017 by justice98 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, codeorama said: Fox is not a news organization, they are a propaganda organization. If people didn't believe that in the past, they should now. Good point. I forgot to use quotation marks. Let me try again... How much more callous can a "news" organization be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dan T. said: Good point. I forgot to use quotation marks. Let me try again... How much more callous can a "news" organization be? I think we are beyond callous. Fox is essentially state sponsored media now since Trump regularly pimps them out. This is all really sad to see play out. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 McMaster at 1130. Wonder if he says screw this I quit on National TV. That would be sweet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, codeorama said: I'm curious how Fox News watchers feel about Fox not covering the story (calls for more Hillary investigations were on the front page for hours after this story broke). Trump has admitted that he leaked the info. Its not fake news. I have first hand experience with this. I can answer your question. They think fox is covering it. They think everyone else is hung up on it and won't let it go. Fox's coverage has been pretty much a defense of the administration, with how crooked Clinton is intertwined throughout. It's depressing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PF Chang Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I watched some of Fox's coverage last night. It approaches satire. Criticism of Fox News is not exaggerated...you'd be more informed by watching nothing. This is the kind of story that most concerned me about Trump as President. It wasn't the racism, misogyny, xenophobia, etc that made me actually fear him. It's the lack of intelligence, nuance, sophistication... just a steady drip of completely avoidable mistakes that he doesn't even realize he's making. I mean, an American asset could easily have died from this. Who knows how many times Trump's already screwed up like this and we just don't know about it? The response from the right on this is just disgusting. Focusing on Trump's idiocy being technically legal so that they don't have to accept that this guy simply should no longer be President. Have some ****ing integrity for once in your lives. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 59 minutes ago, No Excuses said: Fox right now is pushing a conspiracy that a DNC staffer was murdered because he was communicating with WikiLeaks. Yup, more of the word games I was talking about earlier. Part of the headline is - lead detective ordered "not to pursue" investigation No reasoning was ever given as far as I saw. Could have been as simple as - there is absolutely no evidence to warrant pursuing that line of investigation. If you watch fox news, they certainly aren't telling you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, No Excuses said: I think we are beyond callous. Fox is essentially state sponsored media now since Trump regularly pimps them out. This is all really sad to see play out. this is a really good point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 McMasters seems to be going all in...or is being forced to. He is saying what Trump did was "wholly appropriate" and that it is the leaks that damage our national security, not a bumbling idiot disclosing super top secret intel to an adversarial foreign power. He's also trying to downplay the location portion of it, basically saying that everyone knows what areas ISIS controls so anyone could just pick a city and they might be correct. This is pathetic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Im confused... Did he not just say, before walking out: the president wasn't briefed on the information he supposedly gave over ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Damn it, McMasters, you literally wrote the book on why you don't do this. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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