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Nice call on this @LadySkinsFan. Back like a month ago iirc

Fox 5's Tony Perkins hates gay people too?

I do know one thing for certain: The only thing ignoring them, staying medium and going high when they go low has gotten us is Donald Trump in the White House and the Alt Right Nazi's dominating online culture and now moving it to the streets. "Don't feed the troll" politics is no longer an option. As much as Tina Fey and her cake-eating white privilege might hope otherwise, it just isn't. Some of us actually have something tangible to lose in this fight.

Btw i agree that violence for the sake of violence is stupid and entirely counterproductive (don't get me started on the vandalism). But I don't think you should be lining up to get canned at the salt pits ala Gandhi or stomped out on the bridge ala MLK and Co. This ain't that type of fight. I like what I've been personally doing. Just going to as many rallies as I can and not taking **** from anyone but never instigating direct confrontations. You remember when we were younger and you'd always tried to get the other person to swing first. Like once that happened you were free to do anything? Of course both kids would get suspended no matter who threw first but that mindset was always there. Like it was a legal loophole for violence or something. It's stupid but I think that's the way to play it here. Confront, don't instigate and defend don't escalate. No weapons but be strong. This isn't the mid 20th Century and this isn't a huge empire canning half-naked Indians. Empathy is a smaller factor. You have to stand up for yourself but you can't give them ammunition to use against you in their propaganda. It's a fine line to walk.

If you can stand a bunch of whiney Germans crying "woe is us. Nobody I know was a Nazi. I swear! It must have been the other Germany!!" then I really recommend "The Memory of Justice". It's available to stream on HBO right now. It's fascinating because it's from the 70's so it's almost exclusively folks being interviewed who experienced the Third Reich firsthand. Including Albert Speer, Hitler's favorite architect and good friend and who, for all his faults, is really an amazing man (the most senior Nazi to own the Holocaust and condemn Hitler and spent the last 30+ years of his life walking the walk), the admiral who was officially the last head of state of Nazi Germany, who is a bitter old curmudgeon, the psychologist of the Nuremberg defendants, a lot of the legal folks involved in the trial and many, many others. It's 4 1/2 hours long and obviously can get very heavy at times so you might want to watch it in batches. If you've never seen it though, it really is a must watch. Can't recommend it enough. One of the greatest documentaries ever. http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/the-memory-of-justice https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Memory_of_Justice

Recidivism rate is the first thing I look at. Japan has a ridiculously low recidivism rate from what I remember. Jim Webb, the former Senator and one politician that I can recall ever spending any time on this issue, was always talking about Japan. That was 10 years ago and I'm not trying to remember the details now. And yes, the Nordic countries are the easy answer. I have to say though, It's borderline offensive, as someone who's been through the justice system, to see someone claim it's the best in the world. It really makes me cringe and feel legitimate anger. I wouldn't wish a trip through our justice system on anyone. It is life destroying. It will literally follow you and haunt you until the day you die. It's punitive based, not rehabilitative. It's a philosophy from the 19th Century outfitted for the 21st Century. And the results speak for themself. I always--before and now as an addiction therapist--see people who loudly support our justice system...until the moment their child ends up in it. Then they see. Then they understand. I really don't want to get into it all that in the thread though. Just wanted to post this in here (this is still the American Nazi thread right?)

Japan I think you're asking about a better justice system. Though I'm kinda stunned someone would be defending it that adamantly so maybe I'm misreading you. I'm joining this discussion late. Anyway...wanted to post this in here too just to make sure people know what's going on

The Alt Right Russian bots in the news today... Keep sleeping on what I'm trying to tell you.

It's THE battlefield. Charlottesville was the Internet come to life. And we can only hold it off for so long. Charlottesville was just the start. It'll pop up into the real world more and more in the years to come. Until eventually they are synonymous. So go look at a YouTube comment section and ask yourself if you want that to be our way of life. I don't have answers either. I just know we desperately need the federal government and their vast resources tackling it head on. I'm praying Mueller recognizes the threat (it's most definitely tied to Russia) and sounds the alarmn

And slavs defintely weren't part of the master race. That didn't stop Richard Spencer from marrying and having children with a Russian who...woman. This isn't the 40's. There are even Russian Nazi groups and political organizations. Case in point https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity Russia is in up to its elbows in funding, supporting and pushing the alt right. One example: you know all the racist bull**** you see in comment sections across the Internet? Russian bots. Russia is hell bent on weakening our country in their desperate bid to matter again. Trump, the alt right and hijacking and corrupting half of our political spectrum is the way to do it. It's not a question of if anymore. http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-connections-to-the-alt-right-2016-11 http://www.salon.com/2017/08/17/trump-the-alt-right-and-the-kremlin-white-supremacists-russia-links-are-no-secret/ https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/07/26/two-notorious-alt-right-figures-may-play-key-roles-russia-investigation https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/10/trump-putin-alt-right-comintern/506015/ Really hoping Mueller exposes it all and puts these traitor ****s on blast. We desperately need the feds on top of this.