tshile Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, TD_washingtonredskins said: And the Titanic isn't just a graveyard. It's probably the most famous shipwreck in history (at least modern history), so it's more of a historical site than how you're describing it The fascination with it is that it’s a graveyard. not trying to downplay it just calling it what it is. Someone spent 250k to go down there to take pictures of it. Their submersible probably lost power and is floating around aimlessly. And they knew the risks. So. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, tshile said: The fascination with it is that it’s a graveyard. not trying to downplay it just calling it what it is. Someone spent 250k to go down there to take pictures of it. Their submersible probably lost power and is floating around aimlessly. And they knew the risks. So. 🤷♂️ I guess you can't get into each and every person's head, so you could be right. I always assumed the fascination with Titanic was the story of the "unsinkable ship" that sank and the tragedy of it all. Of course, the death of those people plays into it. But I don't think people were or are interested in recovering the shipwreck or exploring the wreckage to see dead bodies or what remains of the people who were killed. It's the historic significance of the event and what's left of the ship. At least that's always been my thought. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, tshile said: The fascination with it is that it’s a graveyard. not trying to downplay it just calling it what it is. Someone spent 250k to go down there to take pictures of it. Their submersible probably lost power and is floating around aimlessly. And they knew the risks. So. 🤷♂️ I'm betting (heavily) on catastrophic structural failure. The thing sounds "cutting edge" being made of carbon fiber and titanium. I bet their maintenance inspection cycles weren't what they needed to be and a small rivet (or whatever) failure rapidly accelerated similar to the Challenger. I can go into more depth if you all want but think about the strength of a soda can demonstrations. Unfortunately this also means we probably won't ever find the wreckage mainly because of how I explained volume and current above. So it will be hard to actually know without wreckage to inspect. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 minute ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I'm betting (heavily) on catastrophic structural failure. The thing sounds "cutting edge" being made of carbon fiber and titanium. I bet their maintenance inspection cycles weren't what they needed to be and a small rivet (or whatever) failure rapidly accelerated similar to the Challenger. I can go into more depth if you all want but think about the strength of a soda can demonstrations. Unfortunately this also means we probably won't ever find the wreckage mainly because of how I explained volume and current above. So it will be hard to actually know without wreckage to inspect. yeah I was thinking about that when you were highlighting some of the parameters for a search area. if it imploded then who knows how it’ll float/sink 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, TradeTheBeal! said: Who do we hate more…rich people or poor people? Definitely poor people. But it’s not trendy it just is. More under your breath hate. Edited June 20, 2023 by CousinsCowgirl84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 51 minutes ago, tshile said: The fascination with it is that it’s a graveyard. not trying to downplay it just calling it what it is. Someone spent 250k to go down there to take pictures of it. Their submersible probably lost power and is floating around aimlessly. And they knew the risks. So. 🤷♂️ And now they get to meet the crew and passengers as well as see the wreck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 To be honest I actually hope, for their sake, that it experienced a fault and implosion. That would at least be very very quick. Much better than suffering through seemingly endless hours of existential panic and torment followed by a slow suffocation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Gotta be the Bermuda Triangle. It must have expanded. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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redskinss Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 3 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: It’s just trendy to hate people who are rich now. There are worse trends. Jeff bezos makes a million dollars an hour, not every hour he's working, every hour he's breathing. That's right when you and him were sleeping last night he made 8 or 9 million dollars. And these people are the ones who rigged the game so that they could do what their doing right now, they are NOT innocent and something needs to be done. Rant over back to the topic at hand. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Lots of Monday Morning Quarterbacking on the Internet. 3 days ago no one was talking about this being grossly unsafe. I would be that ship has taken 20+ trips. I think this was the 4th of the year? Any word on how they keep in communication? I would think loss of comms would be pretty catastrophic... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fergasun said: Lots of Monday Morning Quarterbacking on the Internet. 3 days ago no one was talking about this being grossly unsafe. 3 days, How about 5 years? https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/20/missing-titanic-submersible-41-hours-or-less-of-oxygen-left.html?&qsearchterm=missing submersible Quote Also Tuesday, federal court filings from a 2018 lawsuit came to light, revealing that a then-OceanGate director warned that the company’s submersible posed potential “extreme danger” to passengers because it had not been properly tested for use at very low water depths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I don't believe the bottom of the ocean should be a tourist destination and this reaffirms my beliefs on that. We need to respect jus how dangerous going down that deep is and remember we know next nothing about it either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Nah, we don't need to respect anything. Most of us are smart enough. Those who are not help clean the gene pool. ~Bang 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 This headline is now on the CNN home page. Wouldn't 'underwater search capabilities' have been important from the beginning if you are looking for a submarine? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Corcaigh said: This headline is now on the CNN home page. Wouldn't 'underwater search capabilities' have been important from the beginning if you are looking for a submarine? @Bang is right, we already have a solution for stupid people and it's called natural selection. Since I heard this story, I've wondered how you would get rescued from the bottom of the ocean during a tourist visit if something went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 They are dead. Why waste resources anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I'm betting (heavily) on catastrophic structural failure. The thing sounds "cutting edge" being made of carbon fiber and titanium. I bet their maintenance inspection cycles weren't what they needed to be and a small rivet (or whatever) failure rapidly accelerated similar to the Challenger. I can go into more depth if you all want but think about the strength of a soda can demonstrations. Unfortunately this also means we probably won't ever find the wreckage mainly because of how I explained volume and current above. So it will be hard to actually know without wreckage to inspect. Given what's come out so far, I would doubt they had maintenance inspection cycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 If you kill 4 of the other people you quadrupole your air supply 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 And you have some food. ~Barf 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Whoops!!! "Furthermore, Lochridge said vessel's viewport, which allows passengers to look outside, was only certified by the manufacturer to withstand pressures at 1,300 meters below the surface. That was due to OceanGate's design of the vessel, which did not meet federal standards, according to the complaint." Titan submersible updates: Rescuers race to find the Titan before air runs out : NPR You can now add 5 more to the list of Titanic deaths except these did it willingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbyrwock Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Renegade7 said: I don't believe the bottom of the ocean should be a tourist destination and this reaffirms my beliefs on that. We need to respect jus how dangerous going down that deep is and remember we know next nothing about it either. Scientifically speaking we know a lot about the bottom of the ocean. For example, I'm pretty sure I recently read a pre-print where they demonstrated the bottom of the ocean was actually under water. Who knew? Naturally I'd wait for peer review before taking it as gospel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Jabbyrwock said: pier review 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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