CobraCommander Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Elon Musk is enrolling all twitter employees in the Jelly of the Month club instead of giving them Christmas bonuses...facts! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, CobraCommander said: Elon Musk is enrolling all twitter employees in the Jelly of the Month club instead of giving them Christmas bonuses...facts! Please mark this post as parody per our new policy. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 This sort of idiocy by a sociopathic dolt who believes he's smarter than everyone else sounds vaguely familiar... Has anyone ever actually seen Dan Snyder and Elon Musk in the same room together? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, mistertim said: This sort of idiocy by a sociopathic dolt who believes he's smarter than everyone else sounds vaguely familiar... Has anyone ever actually seen Dan Snyder and Elon Musk in the same room together? No but they deserve each other. Throw trump in with them on a space-x rocket to Mars and I can finally get some sleep. It's hard work making fun of three buffoons all the time. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, CobraCommander said: Elon Musk is enrolling all twitter employees in the Jelly of the Month club instead of giving them Christmas bonuses...facts! I think a Jelly of the Month would be better than any bonuses Twitter will be paying out for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, CobraCommander said: No but they deserve each other. Throw trump in with them on a space-x rocket to Mars and I can finally get some sleep. It's hard work making fun of three buffoons all the time. Yeah Snyder and Trump are the two people Musk reminds me most of at the moment. It's amazing just how bad one person can be at this, after decades of ostensibly being a "brilliant" businessman. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Several tech companies have reduced or have plans to reduce their labor force by 25 percent or more…facts. Meta being borderline equally stupid in a different way is not an excuse to say "hold my beer"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spaceman Spiff Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 4 hours ago, The Sisko said: Let me see if I’ve got this right. Dude buys a company, then aside from royally screwing it up, proceeds to roll up his sleeves and starts personally trying to “fix” things. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an owner or CEO jump into daily customer-facing business operations and start acting as the de-facto customer service department. This is like being a fly on the wall at the Commodes’. Unlike Farquaad though, the public display of Elon’s incompetence and stupidity isn’t limited to seventeen days a year and only noticed by a small fan community. I just don’t think he really gives a ****. I think he finds Twitter interesting, something to **** around with but I don’t think he’s taking it entirely 100% seriously. I mean, some of his tweets are absolutely hysterical and troll-worthy. Contrast that to the people who think this is a downfall of a key pillar to society (the very people he’s trolling) and the spectacle is absolutely fantastic. I’m totally with @Momma There Goes That Man, this has been the funniest week ever. But I think what a lot of people aren’t realizing is that Musk is an engineer at heart. We can banter back and forth about how much he’s actually invented vs what he’s been given credit for, that’s fine. Steve Jobs could be viewed similarly. Jobs was a fantastic pitchman and an idea guy, not a wrench turner but he gets credit for practically everything. But I digress. I believe in Musk’s world, there’s a lot of ****ing around and experimenting on things before they’re seen in public. And I think that’s what’s happening here with his purchase of Twitter but a lot of people don’t know how to handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) He might be an engineer at heart but his degrees are in physics and economics. Wharton might be asking for the latter one back with how he's torpedoed Twitter. God knows I'm wrong a lot but I don't think it comes back from his meddling. Edited November 12, 2022 by The Evil Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 Musk was pretty pivotal in the software development of PayPal, so watching him break nearly every rule known man concerning production code changes screams "no ****s given". He's acting like even if his decisions hurt people's livelihoods he's already directing his accountants to soften the blow from too negatively impacting his richest man in the world rankings, he won't go broke if Twitter does, no fear of that at all it seems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Spaceman Spiff said: I believe in Musk’s world, there’s a lot of ****ing around and experimenting on things before they’re seen in public. And I think that’s what’s happening here with his purchase of Twitter but a lot of people don’t know how to handle it. I think his experimenting and ****ing around IS being seen in public. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) In case you missed it...guess this is one way to skirt the "No impersonating others" rule lol: Edited November 12, 2022 by Califan007 The Constipated 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Renegade7 said: Musk was pretty pivotal in the software development of PayPal, so watching him break nearly every rule known man concerning production code changes screams "no ****s given". He's acting like even if his decisions hurt people's livelihoods he's already directing his accountants to soften the blow from too negatively impacting his richest man in the world rankings, he won't go broke if Twitter does, no fear of that at all it seems. Max Levchin was the main software architect behind Paypal. Musk didn't do much, if any, coding there from what I understand. His main coding was his first company, Zip2. But once Zip2 expanded and hired professional software engineers, they mostly rewrote what Musk had done since he was self taught and his code was too bloated to do the new things they wanted. Zip2 was sold and he invested the money from that sale in a new company called x.com, but they were well financed and hired professional coders. I think Musk was mostly on the business end of things (IIRC there was actually a power struggle for CEO between him and another guy for a while.) Then x.com merged with Confinity, which was basically Paypal and had already been written by Levchin. He probably still knows some software engineering, but I'd be shocked if he actually deployed any production code in the last 20 years. Edited November 12, 2022 by mistertim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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method man Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, mistertim said: Max Levchin was the main software architect behind Paypal. Musk didn't do much, if any, coding there from what I understand. His main coding was his first company, Zip2. But once Zip2 expanded and hired professional software engineers, they mostly rewrote what Musk had done since he was self taught and his code was too bloated to do the new things they wanted. Zip2 was sold and he invested the money from that sale in a new company called x.com, but they were well financed and hired professional coders. I think Musk was mostly on the business end of things (IIRC there was actually a power struggle for CEO between him and another guy for a while.) Then x.com merged with Confinity, which was basically Paypal and had already been written by Levchin. He probably still knows some software engineering, but I'd be shocked if he actually deployed any production code in the last 20 years. The better way to describe Elon is that he is a product manager at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 He’s a dabbler, as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, mistertim said: Max Levchin was the main software architect behind Paypal. Musk didn't do much, if any, coding there from what I understand. His main coding was his first company, Zip2. But once Zip2 expanded and hired professional software engineers, they mostly rewrote what Musk had done since he was self taught and his code was too bloated to do the new things they wanted. Zip2 was sold and he invested the money from that sale in a new company called x.com, but they were well financed and hired professional coders. I think Musk was mostly on the business end of things (IIRC there was actually a power struggle for CEO between him and another guy for a while.) Then x.com merged with Confinity, which was basically Paypal and had already been written by Levchin. He probably still knows some software engineering, but I'd be shocked if he actually deployed any production code in the last 20 years. The "doing his code better" part especially makes a lot of sense. Even his wiki page shows his involvement down the line with companies you mentioned showed his involvement was more as a CEO who didn't know what he was doing. One example I did hear of before I made my post was trying to push his vision for the software so hard from the top it would force important people to resign, and eventually replace him in order to get what we know PayPal to be today. He probably oversees from a high level some of the agile functions at Tesla and SpaceX, him doing coding himself isn't a requirement for giving final approvals for code into production. What it looks like now is someone who learned to back off getting involved in the agile process himself to point of holding them back with Tesla and SpaceX (those are too much his babies to be completely hands off, see that in documentaries about it). Now he's all up in it to prove points, doubling down on the kinds of mistakes he got replaced for as CEO in his younger years. It's actually kinda scary how similar his early days lack or really being good and getting rich anyway story is to say Dan Snyder the more you think about it. He made of money of mergers and sales of companies that kept giving him a chance to be deeply involved and finally jus had to push him out. At some point he pulled back meddling too much with later companies, what we seeing now with Twitter reminds me of something early 2000s Snyder would do. It begs the question of if this is what it looks like Musk is too involved in a company, how involved was he in the companies like Tesla and SpaceX? Edited November 12, 2022 by Renegade7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 52 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: He’s a dabbler, as they say. But can he play jazz flute? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Now available for only $2.99: The Physical Manifestation Of Twiddor’s Rapid Descent Into Chaos Thanks To Inept Management From A Manbaby Edgelord Pounds Me In The Butt 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbyrwock Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: He’s a dabbler, as they say. Thats a funny way to spell "narcissistic idiot" 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: The "doing his code better" part especially makes a lot of sense. Even his wiki page shows his involvement down the line with companies you mentioned showed his involvement was more as a CEO who didn't know what he was doing. One example I did hear of before I made my post was trying to push his vision for the software so hard from the top it would force important people to resign, and eventually replace him in order to get what we know PayPal to be today. He probably oversees from a high level some of the agile functions at Tesla and SpaceX, him doing coding himself isn't a requirement for giving final approvals for code into production. What it looks like now is someone who learned to back off getting involved in the agile process himself to point of holding them back with Tesla and SpaceX (those are too much his babies to be completely hands off, see that in documentaries about it). Now he's all up in it to prove points, doubling down on the kinds of mistakes he got replaced for as CEO in his younger years. It's actually kinda scary how similar his early days lack or really being good and getting rich anyway story is day Dan Snyder the more you think about it. He made of money of mergers and sales of companies that kept giving him a chance to be deeply involved and finally jus had to push him out. At some point he pulled back meddling too much with later companies, what we seeing now with Twitter reminds me of something early 2000s Snyder would do. It begs the question of if this is what it looks like Musk is too involved in a company, how involved was he in the companies like Tesla and SpaceX? Yeah it seems like everything he's doing recently is mostly driven by emotion and, as you mentioned, trying to prove points, vs anything even remotely resembling sound business tactics. I think like @method manmentioned above, it might be better to think of Musk as a product manager vs an engineer. He'll come up with a high level idea and set the end vision, but he won't be the one who actually designs it, builds it, codes it, etc. And yeah, I definitely get Dan Snyder vibes from him nowadays. To me right now it's like if you somehow took Snyder's almost unrivaled Dunning-Kruger tendencies and then combined it with the obnoxious and juvenile trolling of Trump. (and added some IQ points...he may do some dumb ****, but he's definitely way smarter than either of those guys) As far as things at SpaceX, etc...IIRC it may have been @Jabbyrwockwho mentioned that most scientists he's knows regard Musk as sort of a useful idiot. I could imagine it being a situation where they let him play around and think he's doing stuff, but then when he leaves the room the real work starts. I imagine there's a fair amount of time spent in making Musk think their ideas and designs are actually his before he'll approve them. Elon at SpaceX HQ: Edited November 12, 2022 by mistertim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 What Elon Musk Is Doing Right at Twitter 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Elon Musk braces for $56 billion battle with heavy metal drummer Elon Musk has taken on Detroit's automakers, short-sellers and securities regulators. Next week, the Tesla chief executive is set to square off in court against an unlikely foe - a thrash metal drummer who hopes to strip Musk of his $56 billion pay. The trial will pit the world's richest person against one of the electric carmaker's smallest investors, Richard Tornetta, who held just nine shares when he sued in 2018. Tornetta sued Musk and the Tesla board on behalf of the company in what is known as a shareholder derivative lawsuit. If successful, Musk's 2018 package of stock grants will be rescinded, benefiting Tesla. Tornetta is not seeking damages for himself. Historically, cases brought by investors with a near-meaningless economic stake in the litigation have been criticized by business groups as "nuisance suits." Such lawsuits often end quickly in a non-monetary settlement and a payment to the attorneys representing the plaintiff. "This case looks different," said Jessica Erickson, a professor at University of Richmond School of Law who has specialized in shareholder litigation. Tornetta's case survived a motion to dismiss in 2019 and is heading to a week-long trial beginning on Monday in Wilmington, Delaware that will feature live testimony from Musk, who last month bought Twitter for $44 billion. The pay package was widely criticized and California's teachers retirement system known as CalSTRS was among the investors who voted against it. Legal experts said such large shareholders are unlikely to sue because it might invite blowback from Musk and cut off access to management. CalSTRS declined to comment. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, China said: What Elon Musk Is Doing Right at Twitter I was wondering why there was no first paragraph. Feels like an April fools joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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