rumplestilskin Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Mathieu over Wagner for me simply based on bang for your buck. And based on the fact that Tyranns play isnt declining. Wags still very good but not the same player he once was. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 This updated cap says Commanders have excess of $45m in space. I wonder if the Wentz' deal hasn't hit that yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Both Honey Badger and Wagner, sign up Donte Jackson while you’re at it. we have and can create room, they think Wentz is the 2-3 year answer, take your shot with the guy and go heavy O in the draft. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Mathieu is expected to secure a contract of near $15MM per season. You have to factor that into the equation of whether or not you wish to acquire him. Is he a $15MM/apy player? I'm not sure any safety is currently worth that much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: @Skinsinparadise another thing that is interesting regarding Wentz' contract ... is the way the team/FO has worded the acquisition. We'll learn more today obviously, but it sounds like they think he can be "they guy" ... and if he's NOT "the guy" then there's likely a new front office in place here. So there's a lot of room to work with on this Wentz contract. A simple restructure frees up substantial cap space this year, at the expense of next year. I guess they feel they made the moves they had to make, and want to remain flexible in the cap arena next year, but is just curious they'd rather cut Flowers/Ion before re-doing the Wentz deal to lower the hit this year. We have plenty of space now. No reason to redo Wentz. We can walk away after this season with no penalty at all if need be. And of he turns out to be the answer we have him locked up for 2 more years at a very respectable number. I am leaving Wentz's contract exactly how it is and working around it this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I guess the next question we have to ask in light of this recent signing. Are there any other gingers out there looking for work and how will they fit onto our roster? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebestian Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, RWJ said: I like him in the 2nd . Favorite FS besides Hamilton but Hamilton will go before #11. If we don't draft Brisker in the 2nd and sign a vet MLB give me Muma in the 2nd. do you think Hill is good from Michigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Mathieu is expected to secure a contract of near $15MM per season. You have to factor that into the equation of whether or not you wish to acquire him. Is he a $15MM/apy player? I'm not sure any safety is currently worth that much money. So we'd pay him what we would've been paying Landon Collins....??? Is that right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, kingdaddy said: So we'd pay him what we would've been paying Landon Collins....??? Is that right? Pretty much. I'd take him over Landon Collins, but I'd prefer to not pay any safety that kind of money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said: We got us another Bud swilling old school mean mutha in the middle of our oline... Love this. Good protection for Carson. He's a big man! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, Hazel-Ra said: Yup... a quick peek at footballdb.com says we played GB 4 times during Favre's career and lost every one. I don't think we ever got over on Peyton Manning. Got Brady twice though...but not in the one we really needed. Spurrier beat Manning at least once: https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/221027028 Remember listening to it on the radio because our power was off, was unexpected and right on time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RWJ Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, sebestian said: do you think Hill is good from Michigan I think he's overrated, myself. He's ok but he's not in Brisker's class when watching the film on him. JMO though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebestian Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, RWJ said: I think he's overrated, myself. He's ok but he's not in Brisker's class when watching the film on him. JMO though. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, clskinsfan said: We have plenty of space now. No reason to redo Wentz. We can walk away after this season with no penalty at all if need be. And of he turns out to be the answer we have him locked up for 2 more years at a very respectable number. I am leaving Wentz's contract exactly how it is and working around it this year. We reportedly have 17mil left with the McCain deal not yet deducted. Assume down to 14mil. The Collins credit isn’t included yet either. That’s 12mil to be added in June if he is in fact a June 1 transaction. I think we’ll need to either convert some Wentz cash OR do a couple of conversations on salary/roster bonus on the bigger existing contracts.....IF we are targeting more FA or course, especially a higher end player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, Est.1974 said: We reportedly have 17mil left with the McCain deal not yet deducted. Assume down to 14mil. The Collins credit isn’t included yet either. That’s 12mil to be added in June if he is in fact a June 1 transaction. I think we’ll need to either convert some Wentz cash OR do a couple of conversations on salary/roster bonus on the bigger existing contracts.....IF we are targeting more FA or course, especially a higher end player. Is it too late to deduct the McCain deal entirely? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chris 44 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, redskinss said: I guess the next question we have to ask in light of this recent signing. Are there any other gingers out there looking for work and how will they fit onto our roster? The one and only Ginger Tompkins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumplestilskin Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Mathieu is expected to secure a contract of near $15MM per season. You have to factor that into the equation of whether or not you wish to acquire him. Is he a $15MM/apy player? I'm not sure any safety is currently worth that much money. Maybe that number will be dropping as the days pass. I will be curious to see if he and Wag cash in as expected. I dont think they will get what they wanted because if so they probably would have signed by now when the stupid money was flying around. We will see. Either guy would be awesome leaders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Reminder that the salary cap is a needless worry to some... The Saints have reworked a load of deals again, and they now have 30mil in cap space.. Just wait for it, they bring back their LT Armstead and maybe trade for Watson ????? 5 minutes ago, KDawg said: Is it too late to deduct the McCain deal entirely? Yeah that’s an odd one for me too. We actually confirmed that deal very soon after it was announced that the Ravens got Williams. Maybe we missed out, maybe coincidence. Could be a cheap fallback pending an upgrade. Or they just like him more than most others do.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, sebestian said: Agreed Love me some Lewis Cine from Georgia. draft sleeper I like is Yusuf Corker from Kentucky. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 54 minutes ago, Redwards said: I get what you're saying. I do. Perhaps it comes down to a personal viewpoint, and I'm starting to feel silly going back and forth about this point. 😉 But Ron was selling THIS Oline - the actual Oline that played and achieved the 6th ranking this past season - to prospective QBs as a major reason to join the team. He went on and on for months about that. He wasn't selling an O line with prospective backups that could move into a starting role, future FA pickups or draftees that hypothetically could achieve that 6th ranking. That's a huge difference. Now, if one chooses to believe that behind closed doors, Ron was trying to sell a franchise QB on those hypothetical things, then that's fine. But it would make Ron a lackluster salesman. "We had the 6th ranked Oline this year but we're not going to have Scherff in all likelihood next season and Flowers is a good bet to be gone, too. But don't worry, we'll still be able to keep that ranking, or better, with players that have zero chemistry with the other members of our Oline and haven't proven they can do it here. But they will, don't worry." I'm not buying that was the sales pitch. Not trying to be argumentative here but who is he selling this to? This feels like manufactured indignation that you (again meaning metaphorically) are not privy to details of how they are building the team so it must be a bad plan since it does not align with how I see the team should be built. You want to take the words literally when they were never meant to be literal. I respect your right to your opinion I just could not disagree more. Hopefully we will get some answers soon. Looks like we are close to terms with Andrew Norwell. That would be a big get. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Norwell better not cancel out the 3rd round comp pick from Scherff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RWJ said: Love me some Lewis Cine from Georgia. draft sleeper I like is Yusuf Corker from Kentucky. I like Cine as well. But he isnt a sleeper anymore after the combine he had. Edit: NVM. I see Corker is your sleeper. Lack of coffee on my end. Carry on. Edited March 17, 2022 by clskinsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, Always A Commander Never A Captain said: Norwell better not cancel out the 3rd round comp pick from Scherff Probably will downgrade it at the least. Honey Badgers would wipe it out. Its an early 4th for all intents and purposes. It’s a great get when it fits your roster construction of course, but if the reason you lose out on it is because you’re adding real, impactful talent to the roster after you acquire a QB to win with? Hard to hate on that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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