Conn Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Renegade7 said: This is fair, I just don't want to see us stupidly release Patterson and be lucky to bring him back again. Patterson is fine, but every team in the league has a guy like him. He’s a replacement level backup RB that runs with some fire and good squat pad level, they’re all over the league. I wouldn’t make any plans based around him if I liked a late round rookie’s talent more 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 20 hours ago, mhd24 said: Should we start a new FA thread considering this is technically the 2022 thread? I was gonna ask the same thing... I want to see us get at least one or two new starters for the oline then use the first round pick on oline as well. Just do an overhaul, we don't need much, but we need to be careful how many players we already have on rookie contracts in context of actual need versus case to add help. 1 minute ago, Conn said: Patterson is fine, but every team in the league has a guy like him. He’s a replacement level backup RB that runs with some fire and good squat pad level, they’re all over the league. I wouldn’t make any plans based around him if I liked a late round rookie’s talent more I mean, didn't we do that last year, regret it, and bring him back? Not talking an LTS, but I don't agree with drafting another running back unless the intention is bottom of the 53 or practice squad, RB is arguably our deepest position right now, right up there with DT, we got bigger "problems", imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Renegade7 said: I was gonna ask the same thing... I want to see us get at least one or two new starters for the oline then use the first round pick on oline as well. Just do an overhaul, we don't need much, but we need to be careful how many players we already have on rookie contracts in context of actual need versus case to add help. I mean, didn't we do that last year, regret it, and bring him back? Not talking an LTS, but I don't agree with drafting another running back unless the intention is bottom of the 53 or practice squad, RB is arguably our deepest position right now, right up there with DT, we got bigger "problems", imo. I don’t think it’s that deep at all, personally. I’m not happy with Gibson as a starting RB and we’re one Robinson injury away from that being our reality. And he’ll be leaving next year in FA most likely. McKissic is probably done here. Rest are fine but JAGs. One more potential playmaker in the late rounds couldn’t hurt us if we’re leaning on a young QB, we don’t want to have an underperforming run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Renegade7 said: I was gonna ask the same thing... I want to see us get at least one or two new starters for the oline then use the first round pick on oline as well. Just do an overhaul, we don't need much, but we need to be careful how many players we already have on rookie contracts in context of actual need versus case to add help. I mean, didn't we do that last year, regret it, and bring him back? Not talking an LTS, but I don't agree with drafting another running back unless the intention is bottom of the 53 or practice squad, RB is arguably our deepest position right now, right up there with DT, we got bigger "problems", imo. Nah, we cut him with knowledge he'd be available for the practice squad and we could bring him up as needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 45 minutes ago, MrJL said: Nah, we cut him with knowledge he'd be available for the practice squad and we could bring him up as needed Can't other teams sign him off our practice squad if they wanted to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Conn said: I don’t think it’s that deep at all, personally. I’m not happy with Gibson as a starting RB and we’re one Robinson injury away from that being our reality. And he’ll be leaving next year in FA most likely. McKissic is probably done here. Rest are fine but JAGs. One more potential playmaker in the late rounds couldn’t hurt us if we’re leaning on a young QB, we don’t want to have an underperforming run game. I'm not that low on Gibson, especially because I felt he was not fully utilized and severly cut down his fumbles. Like to see what he and others do with new OC, agree to disagree on Patterson, I'm not in rush to "do better". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Renegade7 said: Can't other teams sign him off our practice squad if they wanted to? Yeah, but as I said, every team in the league has Patterson-quality guys hanging around the roster, so it wasn’t viewed as a risk for good reason. And now 10-15 or more RBs at least as good as Patterson will enter the league as rookies, and the risk will lessen further. I’m not saying he’s bad at all, I’m just saying he’s nothing special and can be easily improved upon with minimal draft pick investment. Hell, another UDFA could possibly do it, it’s a deep class. Edited February 26, 2023 by Conn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FootballZombie Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Odd timing, but I'm good with it. I get the move. Provides a better oppo for both Butler and Forrest to see the field at the same time which could both be good and save us money. Only saves us 4.4 if he is a post J-1 cut tho. Otherwise its 2.3 savings Edited February 27, 2023 by FootballZombie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: Odd timing, but I'm good with it. I get the move. Provides a better oppo for both Butler and Forrest to see the field at the same time which could both be good and save us money. Only saves us 4.4 if he is a post J-1 cut tho. Otherwise its 2.3 savings Yep he’s got 2.1mil in future bonus money 2024-2026 hasn’t he, voidable years but still needs accounted for via the cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 If I recall @KDawg's favorite player? 14 minutes ago, Andre The Giant said: Clearing cap room to keep Wentz? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Edited February 27, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: If I recall @KDawg's favorite player? Clearing cap room to keep Wentz? He did better at nickel corner. But… it’s a business. And Reaves has more value. Edited February 27, 2023 by KDawg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I have no attachment to McCain (and I’m optimistic about Butler), but I’m a little surprised in that I don’t know who man’s the slot corner role now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I posted this over in the 2023 FA thread, are we still posting in here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 If we are getting ahead of ourselves and making some room now keep an eye on the team cutting a check to let Logan Thomas go. He'd be over 5 Mil in savings as both a pre and post J cut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, FootballZombie said: If we are getting ahead of ourselves and making some room now keep an eye on the team cutting a check to let Logan Thomas go. He'd be over 5 Mil in savings as both a pre and post J cut This FO has been pretty consistent about cutting guys early, and I’m comfortable feeling it’s at least in part to give them a fighting chance in FA. Personally, I’d prefer to scope out the FA market and see what the draft brings before I make the decision on Thomas and Roullier (and McCain). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: If we are getting ahead of ourselves and making some room now keep an eye on the team cutting a check to let Logan Thomas go. He'd be over 5 Mil in savings as both a pre and post J cut That one is interesting. I've heard Rivera mention him recently as to weapons this team has, so I wonder if that means they are keeping him. I like the TEs in this draft. But not sure what they are thinking. Edited February 27, 2023 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: I posted this over in the 2023 FA thread, are we still posting in here? Agree. This one needs to be canned now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 McCain was a surprise. I thought he was ok and usually healthy. They probably cut him early to give him a chance to play elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) duplicate post Edited March 5, 2023 by HigSkin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Locking this one down to avoid confusion about which free agency thread to post in. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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