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1 hour ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

It occurs to me that Trump probably actually is the most unfairly treated person in the history of our country. Half of the citizens absolutely love and worship him like he is the greatest hero America has ever known. If he was treated fairly, everybody would see him for the disgusting piece of **** that he actually is.

 

He is treated fairly. Executive privilege doesn't extend beyond the presidency. He knows that. I'm not giving him any wiggle room. He was going to monetise these documents because he's a grifter. 

 

He still has some documents. MAL needs to be thoroughly searched until we get the docs back to the National Archives. And TFG needs to go to prison.

 

 

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21 hours ago, tshile said:

I would argue if you’re the FBI agents conducting a raid on a former president “accidentally taking his passports” isn’t a thing that should happen 

 

Probably not accidental:

 

 

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1 hour ago, LadySkinsFan said:

 

He is treated fairly. Executive privilege doesn't extend beyond the presidency. He knows that. I'm not giving him any wiggle room. He was going to monetise these documents because he's a grifter. 

 

He still has some documents. MAL needs to be thoroughly searched until we get the docs back to the National Archives. And TFG needs to go to prison.

 

 

It already has been monetised. 2 billion to Kush and the golf tournaments are laundering just some of the money.

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First on CNN: Elaine Chao, Trump's former Transportation Secretary, met with Jan. 6 committee as other Cabinet members engage with panel

 

The House select committee investigating January 6, 2021, has recently interviewed former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao and has been in talks with former Education Secretary Betsy DeVos as well as former National Security Adviser Robert O'Brien, multiple sources tell CNN. Chao and DeVos, both members of former President Donald Trump's Cabinet, resigned a day after the attack on the US Capitol and discussed invoking the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from power.

 

News of Chao's cooperation, and the committee's discussions with DeVos and O'Brien have not been previously reported. O'Brien is expected to appear virtually before the panel on Friday, according to a source familiar with the probe. CNN has reached out to O'Brien.


The development comes after former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo met with the panel on Tuesday. The 25th Amendment was a topic of focus during Pompeo's meeting, CNN previously reported.

 

Additionally, sources tell CNN the committee is still negotiating terms for a potential interview with former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe. Given the classified nature of Ratcliffe's former role, there are unique issues the two sides have to work out, the sources said.


At least nine Cabinet-level officials who were still in their roles on January 6 are known to have cooperated with or are engaging with the committee.

 

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DHS Watchdog Refuses to Recuse Himself From Missing Jan. 6 Texts Investigation

 

Top congressional Democrats on Tuesday accused the Department of Homeland Security’s Trump-appointed inspector general of stonewalling their efforts at accountability, and revealed a letter, sent last week, in which he refused to cooperate with their demands.

 

In a scathing response, the chairs of the House Oversight Committee and Homeland Security Committee again demanded Inspector General Joseph Cuffari recuse himself, and that he produce documents and testimony detailing why his department erased text messages in the days after January 6.

 

Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Bennie Thompson (D-MS), who oversee the House Oversight and Homeland Security committees, demanded to know why Cuffari hadn’t alerted Congress more quickly, and suggested he may have been intentionally withholding the information. 

 

Congressional Democrats have since called for Cuffari to recuse himself from the investigation. 

 

But in a letter replying to Maloney and Thompson made public Tuesday, he rejected those calls, and refused to make his staff available for testimony.

 

His response also addressed letters they sent him in July and August.

 

The first of those, sent on July 26 by Maloney, questioned why Cuffari didn’t sound the alarm on the missing texts sooner, and noted that the inspector general had presented shifting explanations of how the material was lost, when he learned it was lost, and the extent to which the Secret Service has cooperated with his office. She requested that he recuse himself from the investigation into the missing texts and that the Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency (CIGIE) appoint a new inspector general in his stead.

 

Maloney noted that a 50-page semiannual report sent to Congress on November 29, 2021, only briefly mentions issues accessing records from the Secret Service. The report acknowledged that DHS “significantly delayed the OIG’s access to Department records, thereby impeding the progress of the OIG’s review.”

 

“However,” the congresswoman wrote, “the brief description failed to mention that the Secret Service was the source of the access issues and did not indicate that OIG continued to encounter stonewalling.”

 

Maloney also noted that the Inspector General Act of 1978 requires inspectors general to send the head of their agency a “seven-day letter” when the IG becomes aware of “particularly serious or flagrant problems, abuses, or deficiencies relating to the administration of programs and operations.”

 

“Inspector General Cuffari did not send Secretary Mayorkas a seven-day letter notifying him of the Secret Service’s refusal to fully cooperate and provide information responsive to the DHS IG’s investigation,” Maloney wrote.

 

To this, Cuffari responded that he has reported to Congress “consistent with the law” various access issues his office encountered since the attack — including the report Maloney listed and “numerous briefings” his staff provided to members of Congress and their staff.


Maloney sent another letter on August 1. This time, she mentioned that top officials from within his office told DHS they no longer needed the text messages as part of their investigation.

 

She cited an email from Thomas Kait, the Deputy Inspector General for Inspections and Evaluations, sent to a senior DHS official on July 28, 2021, where he states that the OIG “no longer request[s] phone records and text messages from the USSS”. She also linked to a CNN article which reported that Cuffari had known texts were missing since May 2021, seven months earlier than previously believed.

 

The letter also mentions that Kait removed language from a February 2022 memo to DHS that restated how important the text messages were to their investigation; instead, Maloney wrote, Kait’s final memo praised the department for their responses.

 

“These documents raise troubling new concerns that your office not only failed to notify Congress for more than a year that critical evidence in this investigation was missing,” she wrote, “but your senior staff deliberately chose not to pursue that evidence and then appear to have taken steps to cover up these failures.”

 

She reiterated her call for Cuffari to recuse himself, but also requested copies of all communications regarding the decision not to recover any of the missing texts and whether to notify Congress about the missing texts by August 8. She also asked that the inspector general make Kait, Deputy Inspector General Glenn Sklar and Chief of Staff Kristen Fredricks available for interviews by August 15.

 

In his August 8 response, however, Cuffari refused to allow his staff to sit for transcribed interviews.

 

He also rebuked the representatives’ call for CIGIE to remove him from the investigation.

 

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42 minutes ago, Dan T. said:

 

 

Back when Trump arrived in Washington, and he was being investigated for his campaign working with the Russian government, there were numerous articles stating that he was having a lot of trouble finding lawyers in Washington DC.  

 

One article contained an anonymous quote:  "He doesn't pay and he won't listen."  

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Lawyers will take on clients and they may think they'll lose the case as long as they are paid. 

 

Trump lies and sometimes doesn't shut up, he's guilty, and he doesn't pay his lawyers. Just ask Rudy Guiliani, Trump promised to pay for post election work and didn't pay him at least what he promised. Probably because Guiliani couldn't deliver on securing the election for Trump based on lies. 

 

Given his history of stiffing contractors including lawyers, it's not surprising that he's scraping the bottom of the barrell for representation, and competent representation at that.

 

 

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Dumbass mother****er.  Just looking for yes men everywhere.  

 

I think @PleaseBlitzshould get a job as a Trump lawyer by saying yes to everything and then doing an expose after about how ****ing looney he is. 

Just now, LadySkinsFan said:

Lawyers will take on clients and they may think they'll lose the case as long as they are paid. 

 

 

 

No way!!!  I refuse to believe this.  PB, she can't be correct, can she?  Right?  

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1 minute ago, LadySkinsFan said:

Lawyers will take on clients and they may think they'll lose the case as long as they are paid. 

 

Trump lies and sometimes doesn't shut up, he's guilty, and he doesn't pay his lawyers. Just ask Rudy Guiliani, Trump promised to pay for post election work and didn't pay him at least what he promised. Probably because Guiliani couldn't deliver on securing the election for Trump based on lies. 

 

Given his history of stiffing contractors including lawyers, it's not surprising that he's scraping the bottom of the barrell for representation.

 

Legal ethics dictate that everyone is entitled to representation, from the poorest to the richest and including those charged with and likely guilty of the most heinous crimes.  Lawyers take on cases they think they may lose because of that.  Of course, everyone should be paid for their work.  

 

But the kind of high-end lawyers Trump needs get to pick who they represent for the simple fact that they are good at what they do and are in demand.  Trump is a ****ty client if he doesn't listen to their advice and is a risk of nonpayment.  Plus, the folks at many high-end firms won't take on a client like Trump because it destroys the morale of the firm and makes it difficult to hire the next generation of talent because so many people, especially younger people, do not want to be associated with Trump in any way.  

1 minute ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Dumbass mother****er.  Just looking for yes men everywhere.  

 

I think @PleaseBlitzshould get a job as a Trump lawyer by saying yes to everything and then doing an expose after about how ****ing looney he is. 

 

Plus maybe I'll learn some nuclear secrets I can sell. 

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2 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

Legal ethics dictate that everyone is entitled to representation, from the poorest to the richest and including those charged with and likely guilty of the most heinous crimes.  Lawyers take on cases they think they may lose because of that.  Of course, everyone should be paid for their work.  

 

But the kind of high-end lawyers Trump needs get to pick who they represent for the simple fact that they are good at what they do and are in demand.  Trump is a ****ty client if he doesn't listen to their advice and is a risk of nonpayment.  Plus, the folks at many high-end firms won't take on a client like Trump because it destroys the morale of the firm and makes it difficult to hire the next generation of talent because so many people, especially younger people, do not want to be associated with Trump in any way.  

 

Plus maybe I'll learn some nuclear secrets I can sell. 

 

Lol, lawyers and morale at firms, like lawyers have feelings and emotions.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Dan T. said:

 

 

Guy who is known for not paying is having trouble hiring people who want to be paid. 

 

Here I was thing the RNC was paying his bills on some way. But good. If he's stuck with a fired traffic lawyer, a former OAN host, and someone who advertises on busses in Spanish. I'm cool with that.

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Trump is rushing to hire seasoned lawyers — but he keeps hearing ‘No’  The former president’s current legal team includes an insurance lawyer who’s never had a federal case, a past general counsel for a parking-garage company and a former host at OAN

Speaking of those great lawyers

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4 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said:

Plus, the folks at many high-end firms won't take on a client like Trump because it destroys the morale of the firm and makes it difficult to hire the next generation of talent because so many people, especially younger people, do not want to be associated with Trump in any way.  

The only thing you didn’t add, that I expected you to, was damage to rep with regards to current/future clients

 

or is that not necessarily a thing at that high of a level?

 

I believe Abby Lowell represented Kushner in something. I remember being shocked someone with that reputation would take a client like that 🤷‍♂️ 

 

Edit: reading Lowell’s Wikipedia page I guess he’s involved in shady/semi-shady stuff. Didn’t know that. 
 

 

4 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Lol, lawyers and morale at firms, like lawyers have feelings and emotions.

I think he was referring to the admin and paralegals, the people who actually do all the work 

4 hours ago, @DCGoldPants said:

 

Here I was thing the RNC was paying his bills on some way.

They are. But he’s got numerous things going on. Not sure which ones they’re helping with and how much. 
 

but like a month ago it leaked they’d have to stop if he declared candidacy for 2024 since that would violate being impartial towards current candidates 

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59 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

Pence apparently now is willing to testify to the 1/6 committee.

 

If that happens; prime time baby.

 

29 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

This would be magical. You know he's got the goods. 

 

Racist Bannon will likely have nothing to say. 

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1 hour ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

Pence apparently now is willing to testify to the 1/6 committee.

 

If that happens; prime time baby.

 

Don't break out the Lubriderm just yet.  Every headline I see right now from CNN to ABC and NPR says that he'd "consider" testifying if invited.

 

The articles go on to say that he'd give "due consideration" to any formal invitation.  The CNN link says he's "hinting at potential executive privilege issues." 

 

There it is, that pesky "p" word. 

 

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"If there was an invitation to participate, I would consider it," Pence said, after calling January 6 a tragic day for all Americans. "But, you heard me mention the Constitution a few times this morning. Under the Constitution, we have three co-equal branches of government, and any invitation to be directed to me, I would have to reflect on the unique role I was serving in as vice president. It would be unprecedented in history for a vice president to be summoned to testify on Capitol Hill. But, as I said, I don't want to pre-judge, so if there's ever any formal invitation rendered to us, we would give it due consideration."

  

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Riley Williams, Pa. woman accused of stealing Pelosi’s laptop Jan. 6, denied venue change for trial

 

A midstate woman charged with stealing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s laptop during the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol attack was denied her request to move her trial to a Pennsylvania court.

Riley Williams, a 23-year-old from Mechanicsburg, argued the publicity about her case makes it impossible to find an unbiased jury in Washington, D.C.

 

She cited a study that found the majority of D.C. residents surveyed presumed guilt for those accused of participating in the Capitol attack.

 

Federal Judge Amy Berman Jackson wrote in her opinion that Williams didn’t prove a jury would be tainted, and said the survey missed a broad chunk of potential jurors.

 

“[Williams] appears to know little about [Washington, D.C.] or its people,” Berman Jackson wrote. “And she relies on a flawed survey and mere assumptions and generalizations about the jury pool.”

 

Berman Jackson said Williams’ issues can be addressed during jury selection.

 

Williams was also denied a request for potential jurors in her case to be screened with an additional written questionnaire.

 

Berman Jackson denied this request, citing courts that have previously been able to seat juries without questionnaires, and called the publicity around the case “relatively limited.”

 

Williams, who was videotaped inside the Capitol, faces multiple charges:

  • Civil disorder
  • Obstruction of an official proceeding
  • Assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers
  • Aiding and abetting theft of government property
  • Entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds
  • Disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds
  • Disorderly conduct in a Capitol building
  • Parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building

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