skinny21 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, mistertim said: Yeah trying to keep defenses honest makes sense, and I'd be fine with it if we're talking about passes that are where either your receiver gets it or nobody does, but that's pretty tough to do with throws like out routes that are more about precision than anything else...and if the ball doesn't get there in time it's an incomplete pass if you're lucky, a pick six if you're not. With that sort of throw, to make it so just your guy can get it you'd really need to push it to the sideline and basically force your receiver to toe tap. But it's do-able. I’ll add to this that with Heinicke in particular, it’s crucial he look off the safety on those throws. If it’s Terry out there though, that’s probably not doable - you gotta figure they’re intent on bracketing him. Speaking of which, 1) I hope Turner is calling/scheming Terry pulling coverage from others (deep shots in particular), and 2) it’s a shame Brown and Samuel haven’t gotten going - they could be good fits in that role (running go routes while Terry pulls the safety on post and dig routes). Chess match with the safety in 1/2 deep coverages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ODU AGGIE said: I had already taken that into account. The thrust of my post was that I thought TH would play well, but it may not be enough. Try to let that sink in this time. You missed my point and/or my previous post. Kinda hard to expect a lot from a QB if none of his receiving targets would start for another NFL team. Edited October 16, 2021 by ThomasRoane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I think the Chiefs game will be the beginning of the end of Taylor’s run as starting QB. My guess after the Bucs game; Fitzy if healthy or Kyle will take over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 TH has had one really bad game. Scored 20+ points a game. The D has not held up and has given up 20+ points a game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 If Heineke and offense get to 30 points that would 3 out of 5 starts QBing a 30 point offense. Even in the bad games he achieved/gained rhythm and momentum. Im not out on Taylor being a candidate to compete for the job next year. Side note: didn’t like like him saying he played well, but didn’t listen to the whole interview to gain any context. Thoughts from others who did watch the whole thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerm Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 hours ago, ODU AGGIE said: OK guys. I'm trying my best to be objective, but undoubtedly some of my bias will shine through. I think TH can have a good game this week. First, as others have pointed out the Chiefs defense has not exactly been setting the world on fire. I saw a tweet this week talking about the Chiefs' D. It said something about the Chief's D giving up more yards per play than the Ram's "greatest show on turf" offense averaged. So, the implication is that an average offense should look like the Greatest show on turf when they play KC. Also, I think I read that TH has more 20+ yard pass plays than Mahomes has had so far this year. That is obviously a statistical fluke, but I do think the WFT and TH will have chances for a lot of big offensive plays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 11 hours ago, wit33 said: Side note: didn’t like like him saying he played well, but didn’t listen to the whole interview to gain any context. Thoughts from others who did watch the whole thing? In his post game presser I don’t believe he said he played well, just came across like his only bad plays were the picks. To his credit, he admitted how awful and crippling they were to the team because of where they took place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) At least its a little refreshing to see a QB who isn't Capt'n Checkdown or a gazer { staring at 1 WR } or a statue. He does seem to excel in extended plays, and most all of the top QBs butter their bread that way... Edited October 16, 2021 by skins island connection 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Hes going to have a monster week. 3TD 3TO kind of day. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 19 hours ago, wit33 said: If Heineke and offense get to 30 points that would 3 out of 5 starts QBing a 30 point offense. Even in the bad games he achieved/gained rhythm and momentum. Im not out on Taylor being a candidate to compete for the job next year. Side note: didn’t like like him saying he played well, but didn’t listen to the whole interview to gain any context. Thoughts from others who did watch the whole thing? Yeah that's true, but it would also be 30 points against 3 terrible defenses, so I'd take that with a grain of salt. Against decent defenses (Chargers, Bills, Saints) we're averaging a little under 20 points per game so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvernon Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, mistertim said: Yeah that's true, but it would also be 30 points against 3 terrible defenses, so I'd take that with a grain of salt. Against decent defenses (Chargers, Bills, Saints) we're averaging a little under 20 points per game so far. Bad defenses that are beginning to have success against him. It was like the 3rd quarter and Lattimore had 5 PDs. The good D's will eat him alive now that there's enough tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, Silvernon said: Bad defenses that are beginning to have success against him. It was like the 3rd quarter and Lattimore had 5 PDs. The good D's will eat him alive now that there's enough tape. Saints have a good D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvernon Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 11 hours ago, PartyPosse said: Saints have a good D Sure. Not great though. Lattimore is top of the line. With Lattimore getting his hands on a half dozen throws - and I think he could have played better - that should now be the expectation for every top corner: the chance at a multi-pick game. It basically makes Terry a non-factor. Your top 10 WR can be 'covered' by a top 30 CB. Maybe give up a couple of TDs, but you'll get the turnovers and timely stops with poor QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Silvernon said: Sure. Not great though. Lattimore is top of the line. With Lattimore getting his hands on a half dozen throws - and I think he could have played better - that should now be the expectation for every top corner: the chance at a multi-pick game. It basically makes Terry a non-factor. Your top 10 WR can be 'covered' by a top 30 CB. Maybe give up a couple of TDs, but you'll get the turnovers and timely stops with poor QB play. The point is we haven’t seen a “bad” defense figure him out. We’ll see what today shows us. Also, Terry would dominate most CBs regardless of Taylor’s accuracy issues. Lattimore is a top 3-7 (maybe even higher) CB. Terry had no chance against him with those throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 20 hours ago, Silvernon said: Bad defenses that are beginning to have success against him. It was like the 3rd quarter and Lattimore had 5 PDs. The good D's will eat him alive now that there's enough tape. Chiefs looked at the tape, Taylor looked off their entire defense for the Seals-Jones TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D’Pablo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Taylor has been figured out. We’re screwed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 This thread will be off the front page before the end of the season at this rate. Indefensible game by Taylor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 It's been a bad few weeks for you Taylor. Save every cent you make. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 It can look worse then this... and we'll see it in these next 6 weeks looking at the schedule. Mclaurin limited. Samuel out. Thomas on IR. Gibson has shin issue. There were plenty of plays on the field that Taylor missed but our offense doesn't really have anything besides JD catching the ball out of the backfield. I seriously doubt Kyle Allen us going to perform any better. Doesn't matter though. We'll see all 3 QBs play this season regardless whether it's due to injury or performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Mooka said: I seriously doubt Kyle Allen us going to perform any better. Doesn't matter though. We'll see all 3 QBs play this season regardless whether it's due to injury or performance. Sums it up properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Mooka said: It can look worse then this... and we'll see it in these next 6 weeks looking at the schedule. Mclaurin limited. Samuel out. Thomas on IR. Gibson has shin issue. There were plenty of plays on the field that Taylor missed but our offense doesn't really have anything besides JD catching the ball out of the backfield. I seriously doubt Kyle Allen us going to perform any better. Doesn't matter though. We'll see all 3 QBs play this season regardless whether it's due to injury or performance. Jesus I can’t believe people are still sticking up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 hours ago, PartyPosse said: The point is we haven’t seen a “bad” defense figure him out. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PartyPosse Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: Taylor has the audacity to never take responsibility. He hasn’t earned the right to be this delusional. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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