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Has your team support wained due to ownership or can you see past it?  

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  1. 1. Will you attend a game and support the team while Dan Snyder is the owner of the team, regardless of success?

    • Yes
      47
    • No
      106
    • I would start attending games if Dan was no longer the owner of the team.
      77

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8 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

That’s cool. I know of a story of a certain current Washington sports owner (I won’t say which one) trying to feed viagra to one of his former tight ends while he was passed out after a night of drinking.

Really?? I hadn't heard that one hahaha

 

Being completely objective here, I think it's weird how much Snyder wanted to be friends with the star players...but if that was more frat house type stuff I care a lot less about that. Like I said, it's weird and cringy but it's not criminal (unless the TE honestly felt unsafe or something). 

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1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

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Bruce has a lot to do with the disfunction in the organization too, SIP.  At the very least he went along with Snyder hence SnyderAllen and could have done some things on his own accord after asking Snyder or telling Snyder after the fact.  The possibility of it might exist. 

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5 hours ago, RWJ said:

Bruce has a lot to do with the disfunction in the organization too, SIP.  At the very least he went along with Snyder hence SnyderAllen and could have done some things on his own accord after asking Snyder or telling Snyder after the fact.  The possibility of it might exist. 

 

Bumbling Bruce, hired by Doofus Dan, replacing My Cousin Vinny.

 

Lets put partial blame on the other guys, as if it somehow makes anything different than what is reality for 22+ years:

 

 

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On 3/28/2021 at 11:08 AM, RWJ said:

Bruce has a lot to do with the disfunction in the organization too, SIP.  At the very least he went along with Snyder hence SnyderAllen and could have done some things on his own accord after asking Snyder or telling Snyder after the fact.  The possibility of it might exist. 

 

I was one of the loudest critics of Bruce here.   But to me Dan is the lead clown by a country mile.  Who hired Bruce?   Dan's responsible for anyone he hires and that goes double if he allows the clown show to take place under his watch.  Dan IMO is clearly the lead incompetent and bad culture driver of the organization.  Even if I blamed his underlings, that would be on him too.  They don't hire themselves. 

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14 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

 

 

I was one of the loudest critics of Bruce here.   But to me Dan is the lead clown by a country mile.  Who hired Bruce?   Dan's responsible for anyone he hires and that goes double if he allows the clown show to take place under his watch.  Dan IMO is clearly the lead incompetent and bad culture driver of the organization.  Even if I blamed his underlings, that would be on him too.  They don't hire themselves. 

I agree but compare Bruce to any other GM we've had.  Allen seems to be an evil man.  Was he this way in Oakland?  Who knows but the way he did players and did his job was a HUGE issue to me.  

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8 minutes ago, RWJ said:

I agree but compare Bruce to any other GM we've had.  Allen seems to be an evil man.  Was he this way in Oakland?  Who knows but the way he did players and did his job was a HUGE issue to me.  

 

I don't care for Bruce to say the least.  As for Dan plenty of accounts that he's not the nicest dude.    

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I don't care about Dan's personal life or personality. It irrelevant IMO. The players love Ron. The players play for Ron. Ron seems to have control of the football operations. The team seems to be getting more talented. Hopefully they win games on Sundays. Every person in the building (for the most part) are football guys. I'm good. The media's job is keep things interesting. They're doing a great job. But its far from important. If Dan sells the team or not, football will be played on Sundays with a owner in the box. If the team loses games, that owner will begin to be villainized by the media. The sheep will latch on to the stories (true or false). And the beat goes on......

Look at Kraft. His team is winning Super Bowls. He's got to be one of nicest guys you ever want to meet, right? Oh but there is the time he (finally) got caught buying ****. Amazing how the charges got dropped but the women get charged. I don't even recall hearing much by way of the media on this. Not as much as this apparent event that took place 15 years ago. Kraft's **** was more a blip turned punch line and not even a full on NFL investigation. Anytime the NFL has to emphasize that the Person Conduct Policy applies equally to everyone in the NFL, that means it doesn't. Anyway, I don't care..... 

 

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25 minutes ago, joeken24 said:

I don't care about Dan's personal life or personality. It irrelevant IMO. The players love Ron. The players play for Ron. Ron seems to have control of the football operations. The team seems to be getting more talented. Hopefully they win games on Sundays. Every person in the building (for the most part) are football guys. I'm good. The media's job is keep things interesting. They're doing a great job. But its far from important. If Dan sells the team or not, football will be played on Sundays with a owner in the box. If the team loses games, that owner will begin to be villainized by the media. The sheep will latch on to the stories (true or false). And the beat goes on......

Look at Kraft. His team is winning Super Bowls. He's got to be one of nicest guys you ever want to meet, right? Oh but there is the time he (finally) got caught buying ****. Amazing how the charges got dropped but the women get charged. I don't even recall hearing much by way of the media on this. Not as much as this apparent event that took place 15 years ago. Kraft's **** was more a blip turned punch line and not even a full on NFL investigation. Anytime the NFL has to emphasize that the Person Conduct Policy applies equally to everyone in the NFL, that means it doesn't. Anyway, I don't care..... 

 

There is literally nothing more relevant to the Washington Football Team, and to its success, than Dan Snyder.

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Happy that he got a 100% control.  I know I'm in the minority but he is willing to spend and has tried several different approaches trying to win so think he is in it to win.  He'll hit the magic formula soon and hopefully already has with Rivera and co.

 

Also, keep the name the same just to rub those opposed to the Redskins name in the....  :)

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One silver lining to this very dark cloud would be that since now Snyder owns 100% of the team, he is now also 100% responsible for everything that happens from here on out.

 

Have to wonder, though: what if there are other allegations, with actual proof, of even worse behavior that haven't been brought to light yet? The NFL would look even worse than it does now, which isn't very good considering that all of the cheerleaders lost their jobs and the man responsible for the toxic environment that enabled their abuse was rewarded with even more control of the team by the owners' puppet Goodell. The only person who paid any price at all was Larry Michael, and all he lost was his job. The cheerleader DVD seems to have been forgotten about.

 

It's clear the NFL didn't seriously consider the sexist environment a major problem, or they would have acted more decisively. But they will look worse if there are more allegations coming that they weren't aware of. The NFL better hope it did its due diligence...

 

And where is the follow up? Snyder's goons tried to intimidate Moag and people who worked for the team. Schar and the other guy were DESPERATE to sell their shares...does anyone believe that it was only because Snyder missed a payment to them? All of this seems to have been swept under the rug, even by the media, who clearly isn't following up on any of this.

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Yep, this is very disappointing unless it's truly is somehow completely unrelated to the investigation (which I doubt). 

 

I've done such a 180 from a few years ago. Back then, I didn't care about anything off the field and only really wanted Snyder to "figure it out" on the field. Now, I can concede that he's made some better football-related decisions (we don't know enough to know if they are lucky, forced upon him, etc.) but all I can focus on is the fact that a seemingly bad and corrupt man is running the team. 

 

I've laid this out before so I apologize, but the best-case scenario with all of this is that he had no idea what was going on within his $3B NFL organization. That, in and of itself, makes him unfit to stay on as the owner. And, obviously, that's the best he he can look with the pimping of cheerleaders, numerous sexual misconduct allegations, the cheerleader video, etc. 

 

I'd die to be back in the days when I didn't realize he was doing all of that and just hoped he'd stop being impulsive and petulant and a football owner. 

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14 hours ago, owa said:

Happy that he got a 100% control.  I know I'm in the minority but he is willing to spend and has tried several different approaches trying to win so think he is in it to win.  He'll hit the magic formula soon and hopefully already has with Rivera and co.

 

Also, keep the name the same just to rub those opposed to the Redskins name in the....  :)

Incompetent. In-com-pe-tent - "not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully." 

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14 hours ago, owa said:

Happy that he got a 100% control.  I know I'm in the minority but he is willing to spend and has tried several different approaches trying to win so think he is in it to win.  He'll hit the magic formula soon and hopefully already has with Rivera and co.

 

Also, keep the name the same just to rub those opposed to the Redskins name in the....  :)

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"Willing to spend"  That was a swell narrative back in the 2000's when we could see that he was willing to open his checkbook to pay for past their prime free agents that gladly came here to pad their retirement.  However, since that time there is an abundance of information that indicates he's actually not willing to spend when it comes to pretty much everything outside of free agency.

 

Tying 'tried several different approaches' to being 'in it to win' is pretty hilarious.  No, he's tried several different approaches, because he's a constant failure, and has no choice but to try another approach, time after time.  

 

As fans, we can hope to get lucky with Rivera.  We can hope that the sea of change that was all but forced upon him as a result of his own wrongdoings can result in more than what we've become accustomed to under his ownership.  But no - him garnering more control is in no way, a good thing.  How anyone can see it any other way is beyond comprehension.

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14 hours ago, owa said:

Happy that he got a 100% control.  I know I'm in the minority but he is willing to spend and has tried several different approaches trying to win so think he is in it to win.  He'll hit the magic formula soon and hopefully already has with Rivera and co.

 

Twenty years as an owner has proven he doesn't know what he's doing. You are a minority of one if you're happy he has ultimate control of the team now (well... two, including Danny). His spending sprees his first few years as an owner or any other time have done nothing to make this team a success, even off the field.

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