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Who should be Starting RB in 2018??? (Public Poll)

Renegade7

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Who' should be Starting RB in 2018???  

185 members have voted

  1. 1. Who should be Starting RB in 2018???

    • Trade for Le'Veon Bell
      11
    • Draft RB in 1st Round
      16
    • Draft RB in 2nd-7th Round
      73
    • Sign Veteran FA
      17
    • Sign UDFA
      0
    • Trade for Veteran RB (Not Le'Veon Bell)
      4
    • He's already on the Roster
      27
    • IDK, but I know he's not on the Roster
      37

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Skinsinparadise

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8 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

He had 2 guys escorting him all the way to the endzone which helped compensate his slow speed.

Anyway, if you really want to know, try it like I said, and line up that video of his long run next to Kelley's 66 yarder

 

I am not judging a RB on one run.   But I am with you if on the chance he is even slower that Kelley - that would be awful -- Kelley speed is almost 4.7, slower than that would be scary.  As I posted above Kelley is one of the least athletic RBs you'd ever see in a starting RB line up.

 

Got my doubts though that a guy who was timed in the 4.4s for the 40 is now a 4.7 guy -- let alone being one of the leaders in breakaway 15 yard plus runs.  If he is pulling off breakaway runs, especially with that terrible O line, with 4.7 speed, I'd gather he must have elite vision.

 

But I'd guess you might be judging him too much based on him not darting to the end zone in the game against the Redskins.  A game by the way he ran for 154 yards.  If you take out the Rams game -- Kelley didn't match that in all his other games (6 of them) combined. 

 

Check him out in this game.  To me, he looks like he has more speed and burst than Kelley.    I am not saying Darkwa is the be all and end all but if he's 100% he's an upgrade over Kelley IMO.

 

 

 

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More on Chris Warren:

 

https://www.silverandblackpride.com/2018/8/17/17627574/chris-warren-iii-rushing-performance-for-the-raiders-didnt-just-come-out-of-nowhere

 

"Gruden loves him because he loves big, physical RB’s as he had Mike Alstott in Tampa Bay. Running over Detroit Lions linebacker Jarrad Davis in a joint practice didn’t hurt either. And in the preseason game with the Lions, he showed that physicality with 3.6 yards per carry after contact according to Pro Football Focus to go along with that speed.

“I like that guy man, if you know anything about him his dad was one heck of a player at the Seattle Seahawks, Chris Warren, and he’s a big back, Gruden said after the first preseason game against the Lions. “You don’t know it but he’s 253 pounds and can run four-five. He’s a hammer, he can really thump you and he’s got breakaway speed. But he’s improving in the passing game, he’s become more and more of a running back instead of just a runner. He’s becoming a receiver, blitz pickup, all those little details are improving but he’s got a lot of talent.”

 

John Kelly

 

 

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26 minutes ago, JoggingGod said:

1) Freeman plays with Matt Ryan and had an elite WR corps to take pressure off him. We don’t have any of those. Ingram had his best year when Kamara came in. Eagles and Vikings won without Ajayi and Cook, neither of which are star talents right now.

 

Freeman is beast, full stop, you said Atlanta doesn't have a elite running back, they do. Stop plowing forward and jus admit your wrong everyo once in a while.  Ingram is as well, what does having another solid running back on team matter if they aren't on field same time?  Ajay and Cook are  better then anything we currently have on the roster, not even close.  Its 2018, this is what we're walking into and up aginst this year.

 

26 minutes ago, JoggingGod said:

 

2) Smith has a much much much much much worse injury. That was my point. He didn’t just tear his ACL. He tore other ligaments and had nerve damage. The fact that he, with something that could be considered career ending, is back on the field and playing like he did in college right now shows that there is no reason to assume that a hyperextention and a torn ACL would ruin a player in today’s medical world.

 

He's not playing like he did in college yet, and point of the article I posted is to not expect that he ever will.

 

26 minutes ago, JoggingGod said:

3) ACL recovery is dependent on the player but Guice is at a huge advantage given his pain tolerance, playing style, and timeframe of recovery.

 

His time frame for recovery right now is same as everyone else, about a year. And his pain tolerance and playing style is what kept LSU from addressing it before he got to the NFL, that's literally the reason he's on IR right now.  Dudes a power back, you think that's an advantage to him avoiding injury? 

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16 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

 

Freeman is beast, full stop, you said Atlanta doesn't have a elite running back, they do. Stop plowing forward and jus admit your wrong everyo once in a while.  Ingram is as well, what does having another solid running back on team matter if they aren't on field same time?  Ajay and Cook are  better then anything we currently have on the roster, not even close.  Its 2018, this is what we're walking into and up aginst this year.

 

 

He's not playing like he did in college yet, and point of the article I posted is to not expect that he ever will.

 

 

His time frame for recovery right now is same as everyone else, about a year. And his pain tolerance and playing style is what kept LSU from addressing it before he got to the NFL, that's literally the reason he's on IR right now.  Dudes a power back, you think that's an advantage to him avoiding injury? 

ACL recovery is 6-9 months today, not a year. A 9 month has him ready for training camp at the very least. Also I never talked about avoiding injury. I talked about THIS specific recovery. As for avoiding injury on average males have around a 5% chance of re-tearing their ACL after surgery. There is risk involved but not enough to completely change your plan at the position.

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10 minutes ago, JoggingGod said:

ACL recovery is 6-9 months today, not a year. A 9 month has him ready for training camp at the very least. Also I never talked about avoiding injury. I talked about THIS specific recovery. As for avoiding injury on average males have around a 5% chance of re-tearing their ACL after surgery. There is risk involved but not enough to completely change your plan at the position.

We both need to be more clear then, I didn't understand why you fit his playing style into this coversation(if anything that makes him more likely it get hurt again), and I should've said season instead of year as only player to come back in same season from ACL is jerry rice from my understanding.  Show me where you got that 5% stat, I at least gave you an article for mine.

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14 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

We both need to be more clear then, I didn't understand why you fit his playing style into this coversation(if anything that makes him more likely it get hurt again), and I should've said season instead of year as only player to come back in same season from ACL is jerry rice from my understanding.  Show me where you got that 5% stat, I at least gave you an article for mine.

https://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/05/26/bradfords-acl-what-are-the-odds/

 

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The odds of re-injuring the same knee are relatively low. According to Carey, studies have shown that the probability of re-tearing a reconstructed ACL is about three to six percent. (Those studies were on the general population, not just football players. But they line up with other findings that suggest the chance of a recurrent injury to the same knee amongst NFL players within two years is about five to six percent.) Meanwhile, the probability of tearing the other knee — or the “native ACL” — is higher, around nine to 12 percent.

“You would think the reconstructed ACL would be more at risk. And it’s really changed our behavior a lot in how we treat these athletes when they return to play,” said Carey. “For example, bracing used to be pretty common after ACL reconstruction. At this point, I guess the question is: which knee do you want to brace? The other knee is actually at a higher risk in general.”

The reason for the lower odds? Part of it, Carey theorizes, is that the tissue used to reconstruct may be a little bit bigger than the native ACL. If the original ACL is seven millimeters, say, it might have been replaced with a nine millimeter graft, so there’s more give. Also, because of all of the attention that leg receives during rehab, it’s not uncommon for patients to feel that the reconstructed side is the stronger of the two.

 

It depends on the player and position for sure but 3-6 percent (I rounded the average to 5) are not odds bad enough to not trust Guice as the lead back right now, especially in an offense that isn’t run heavy, and especially not at a very young age of 21. I would be more concerned if he missed extended time in college due to a knee injury but this sounds like a standard torn ACL that several notable backs have come back from normally. 

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    John Keim Retweeted John Keim

    Also, was told Jamaal Charles will have just a normal free agent type visit. Means no need for a workout.

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    FWIW: Orleans Darkwa has completed his workout here. Did his solo.
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    FWIW: Orleans Darkwa has completed his workout here. Did his solo.

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Can confirm Orleans Darkwa worked out with the #Redskins this morning. Flew in last night. Source says Darkwa is looking for a starting opportunity and it doesn't look like that's going to align with the Redskins at the moment. Things can change, but doesn't look like he'll sign.

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Lol, what planet is he on that he thinks he’ll be given a starting opportunity at this point in the offseason?  He’s obviously banking on a significant injury to a starting RB, but that’s a pretty dangerous game to play. He could lose out on a lot of money waiting for that to happen, and most teams will feel more comfortable starting their current backups if something were to happen to their starters anyway. 

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12 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said:

Lol, what planet is he on that he thinks he’ll be given a starting opportunity at this point in the offseason?  He’s obviously banking on a significant injury to a starting RB, but that’s a pretty dangerous game to play. He could lose out on a lot of money waiting for that to happen, and most teams will feel more comfortable starting their current backups if something were to happen to their starters anyway. 

 

Like having the starting RB go out for the year with a ACL? Honestly, what we have stinks.

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2 minutes ago, TK said:

AP coming in tomorrow.

 

1) Trent's off season video showed Trent was faster then AP

 

And 2) Eveytime he came here with Minny, our D broke him...

I wonder how much Guice could learn from AP if we were to sign the Hall of Famer? If Peterson has anything left in the tank I'd love to sign him. This is the home of the greatest old running back in NFL history, why not see what AP can do? 

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Rich Tandler Retweeted ig: josinaanderson

But is AP down for signing a contract for what the #Redskins are willing to pay him? That’s real question.

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ig: josinaandersonVerified account @JosinaAnderson
Matter of fact, on the phone with Adrian Peterson right now. He just landed in Texas just now and literally just heard about his visit with the #Redskins. He says "I fly in tonight. I'm down for working out or whatever I have to do to make the team," Peterson told me. https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1031254399337811968 …
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I will say Rob looks more comfortable catching the ball or at least he did on his 1 catch the other night, if that's the case we can get an AP but I would rather have someone who isn't so 1 dimensional, we gotta start looking at backs who can run and catch, this ain't the 90's.

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