I Love The Skins Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, seantaylor=god said: So, who were we bidding against then? Ourselves? Would KC have traded Smith to Denver? Browns are a better FO period. I’d bet their record over the next 3 years is better than ours as well. If Andy Reid wasn't worried about Alex Smith beating him he would have traded him to Denver. him to Denver. 1 hour ago, seantaylor=god said: So, who were we bidding against then? Ourselves? Would KC have traded Smith to Denver? Browns are a better FO period. I’d bet their record over the next 3 years is better than ours as well. We will see they have to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 9 hours ago, I Love The Skins said: If Andy Reid wasn't worried about Alex Smith beating him he would have traded him to Denver. him to Denver. No reason to think that, because our offer was better than Denver's. than Denver's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboy757 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, seantaylor=god said: Browns are a better FO period. I’d bet their record over the next 3 years is better than ours as well. Don't know about that. The Redskins most embarrassing years usually end with 4-6 wins. A good season for the Browns will be getting past 4 wins. I'd bet the Browns are more likely to fire their FO in 3 years vs them being some model franchise to be envious of. If the Browns are successful in the next few years I would for sure root for them to win. Their fans are loyal, which is frowned upon around these parts. If you are a loyal Skins fans you are a 'homer' or 'blind supporter'. You basically have to show public hate for a FO member or player to be considered a neutral Redskins fan. I also think Browns fans are just cool down to earth people to talk to...at least the ones I have chatted with online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I think the new front office that they've assembled in Cleveland is very strong. I believe they'll turn it around. My only worry for that team is the HC position. I'm not sure Hue should be trusted with the reins of a team. We'll soon find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, skinzplay said: I think the new front office that they've assembled in Cleveland is very strong. I believe they'll turn it around. My only worry for that team is the HC position. I'm not sure Hue should be trusted with the reins of a team. We'll soon find out. Hue is only there for their owner to save face. He can't admit a complete mistake; where not only was his front office was wrong but the coach was wrong also. So, Hue gets another shot but I figure after the Browns suck again in 2018; the owner will wake up and let his new front office, get a quality coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvernon Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Hue Is there because the Browns are still 2+ years away from anything. They won't get Cousins, so they'll be looking at McCarron as a placeholder for Darnold or Mayfield. Wouldn't it be something for the Browns to select Barkley #1 and see who's there at #4? If Darnold and Barkley are gone, you get the top defensive player of the draft as consolation or the possibility to trade down. If you're good with two QBs in this draft and Chubb/Fitzpatrick/Ward. The flip side is you take Darnold #1 and sit him for 1-2 years behind McCarron and actively seek to trade down with #4 and keep building for the future. For 2019 off-season: Fire Hue Hire a better coach Have a franchise QB in development Have an elite front seven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love The Skins Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 There isa report on Roto world the Browns aren't enamored with this year's QB class different FO same clown show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/26/2018 at 11:27 AM, I Love The Skins said: There isa report on Roto world the Browns aren't enamored with this year's QB class different FO same clown show. Or maybe they are going to jump in the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/25/2018 at 11:52 PM, Silvernon said: Hue Is there because the Browns are still 2+ years away from anything. They won't get Cousins, so they'll be looking at McCarron as a placeholder for Darnold or Mayfield. Wouldn't it be something for the Browns to select Barkley #1 and see who's there at #4? If Darnold and Barkley are gone, you get the top defensive player of the draft as consolation or the possibility to trade down. If you're good with two QBs in this draft and Chubb/Fitzpatrick/Ward. The flip side is you take Darnold #1 and sit him for 1-2 years behind McCarron and actively seek to trade down with #4 and keep building for the future. For 2019 off-season: Fire Hue Hire a better coach Have a franchise QB in development Have an elite front seven If the Browns do it right, they can be contenders for years. How much longer does Ben play? Does Pittsburgh have someone they plan to groom? The Ravens aren't really going anywhere. Harbaugh is on the hot seat. The Bengals are the Bengals. Cleveland just needs to draft well, get that quality coach in 2019 and by the time they are good; the rest of the division maybe on a downswing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 My issue with the Browns is the problem is at the top of their organisation . They are fundamentally a cheep orgaization . The reason Hue is still there is almost fundamentally a result of financial implications of cutting him ... I cannot see at this point how he has the confidence of the FO or the players ... which is is a shame . I think the Browns FO has the potential to put together a good team ... I think the Browns fo have talent on the field but it is being squandered by the coaching staff and the leadership from the top ... The Browns missed out on A.J. McCarron because they fluffed the paperwork ... missed out on Smith because they would not give him an extension ... missed out on Watson because the brain trust values measuring things over understanding things...that is all the haulmarks of a confused and overmatched organisation but the FO right now seems solid ... they have talent on the field ... imagine what they could do if they had an ownership that would open up the cheque book and bring in a guy like Cousins ... give him a 3 year over the top deal if that is what it took draft Barkley no.1 ( or see if you could get the giants flustered enough to make them flip flop from 2 -1 to secure their QB of the future- to take over from manning ) and then draft Neloson (g) at no.4 . And instantly they are at least contenders in the NFC north ... if they could find a coach with balls and an owner that would let them do what is necessary... but it won’t happen ... they will squander yet another high pick on a QB of the future squabble amongst themselves fall apart rinse and repeat ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 It seems a stretch to me that keeping Hue is all about money. I feel like there has to be more at play here. One doesn't spend big bucks to redo the FO and build a 'dream team' and then worry about losing money on a coach. Maybe he does, but that just seems crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 17 hours ago, bedlamVR said: if they could find a coach with balls and an owner that would let them do what is necessary... but it won’t happen ... they will squander yet another high pick on a QB of the future squabble amongst themselves fall apart rinse and repeat ... Odd how you can understand all these things about the Browns but somehow not see the same, and currently worse, with your own team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakmoney61 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 IMO, if the Browns don't take Saquon Barkley first, they will continue to be a laughing stock. Compared to every QB in the draft, he is a superior talent. Not one QB is considered a consensus, sure-fire talent. Furthermore, every QB may be available when they pick at #4 anyway. There is little to no chance that Barkley will be there at #4. So, if I was a Browns fan, I would lose my mind if they picked a QB first. But I suspect that is exactly what they are going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 They're gonna take Barkley at 1 and Mayfield at 4 and win a Super Bowl by 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: They're gonna take Barkley at 1 and Mayfield at 4 and win a Super Bowl by 2020. I say vet QB in free agency, Barkley at 1 then trade out of 4 and fleece a team for a load of picks looking to draft a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love The Skins Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 How about we see how Cleveland does in the next few years before we crown them as better then the Redskins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 18 hours ago, I Love The Skins said: How about we see how Cleveland does in the next few years before we crown them as better then the Redskins? I think that's pretty much the entire point of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 On 3/5/2018 at 3:01 PM, I Love The Skins said: How about we see how Cleveland does in the next few years before we crown them as better then the Redskins? Because we’ll have Alex Smith, they’ll have either Sam darnold/josh Rosen/Josh Allen, for a brighter future im only half serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I really like the momentum of the Browns taking Barkley at 1. It is clearly the right move, this is a very dicey QB class. And of course it would keep Barkley out of NY as the Giants were sure to jump on the chance to get the best player in the draft at a huge need position. Come on Browns, don't screw this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Jarvis Landry. Havent seen the cost yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Let's just project for a second: QB: Darnold/Rosen/Allen RB: Barkley, Johnson WR: Gordon, Landry, Coleman That's a group with some promise. I'd take that over what we will probably be rolling out next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Brown's are going to be good. Nice move to get a QB on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 On March 5, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Warhead36 said: They're gonna take Barkley at 1 and Mayfield at 4 and win a Super Bowl by 2020. I don't know if baker is the right QB, nut Barley at 1, some QB at 4, or they sign Keenum/Bridgewater and take the best defensive player in the draft at 4.... i like their heir positioning a lot. If they get a good vet QB, some good coaching, they will have more wins than the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Tyrod is a good get. They are doing something interesting. Barkley at one and trade down at 4 or BPA. They’ve given themselves a lot of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonez3 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Why would you trade a ham sandwich for Taylor... Stupid, stupid, stupid. He was gonna be free agent and frankly, will fill the spot of Cleveland taking the worst QB on any given market and making him worse role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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