Garcon More Wine Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 we are missing a true #1. doctson may be that guy next year but he aint. so we have a solid #2 in doctson, a slot guy in crowder, a #4 in grant, harris can serve as the #5, and our TEs are gonna get yardage due to the scheme. but we dont have that scary guy that teams fear. pryor was supposed to be that. the only thing he fears is catching the football and making plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbias Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 18 minutes ago, Garcon More Wine said: we are missing a true #1. doctson may be that guy next year but he aint. so we have a solid #2 in doctson, a slot guy in crowder, a #4 in grant, harris can serve as the #5, and our TEs are gonna get yardage due to the scheme. but we dont have that scary guy that teams fear. pryor was supposed to be that. the only thing he fears is catching the football and making plays. Many teams have won without a 'true #1', so it can be done. IMO to win you need a defence. If you are top 5 in D you have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Unbias said: Many teams have won without a 'true #1', so it can be done. Not every team can be New England, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbias Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Not every team can be New England, though 2016 - Pats - Edleman? 2015 - Broncos - Thomas? But they didn't win because of him. 2014 - Pats - leading reciever in Sb was a backup Rb 2013 - Seahawks - Baldwin & Co. Was now where near as good as they are today. 2012 - Ravens -? 2011 - Giants -? 2010 - Packers - was that the WRs or the HOF QB? 2009 - Saints -? 2008 - Steelers - Santonio Holmes? Maybe another way to look at the question, if you make a top 5 WR list how many have rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJacobyHOForRIOT Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 While you guys debate about if we can win without #1 Im not even sure we have a #2 on this roster with the way these guys have played this season. The only 2 players on offense this season who i feel 100% confident catching the ball when it comes there way is Chris Thompson & Vernon Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Both aren't even #2 they are safety valves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Wow, so Crowder's got the drops now too. As Pryor smiles. And Doctson has the slips. As Grant smiles. Harris for the Hall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Gotta say, based off last year and some of his College film, I thought of Harris as a (only) long, sure handed chain mover. That catch/route on Sunday made me question that view. Don't get me wrong, I was a fan, but I didn't see that kind of catch coming. Very encouraging that Kirk has been calling for him (discouraging in other ways, but that's more a FO/coaching thing). Here's hoping he can continue that trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 It looked like Crowder was favoring his hammy near the end of the non kirk fumble return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cumberland Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Against Norman too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Acre Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 7:56 PM, Unbias said: 2016 - Pats - Edleman? 2015 - Broncos - Thomas? But they didn't win because of him. 2014 - Pats - leading reciever in Sb was a backup Rb 2013 - Seahawks - Baldwin & Co. Was now where near as good as they are today. 2012 - Ravens -? 2011 - Giants -? 2010 - Packers - was that the WRs or the HOF QB? 2009 - Saints -? 2008 - Steelers - Santonio Holmes? Maybe another way to look at the question, if you make a top 5 WR list how many have rings? Art Monk, Gary Clark, and Ricky Sanders have rings. Numbers 4 and 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I think we only have 2 healthy WRs. After watching Crowder pull up on the 100 yd faux fumble return, I don't believe he is 100%. I am so adding Mo Harris into a daily fantasy lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 20 hours ago, Paul Cumberland said: Against Norman too.. with 2 penalties too. 21 minutes ago, RandyHolt said: I think we only have 2 healthy WRs. After watching Crowder pull up on the 100 yd faux fumble return, I don't believe he is 100%. I am so adding Mo Harris into a daily fantasy lineup. Could be a sneaky good pickup... and how did Pryor hurt an ankle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 23 minutes ago, OVCChairman said: Could be a sneaky good pickup... and how did Pryor hurt an ankle? I will take a guess.... a result of poor muscle memory that supports the ankle, when trying to run block for the first time last week? Joking aside, the injuries don't seem to be waning. It the WRs turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 The Redskins need to figure out whatever scout on the Steelers is finding all those guys like Brown, Bryant, Schuster etc., and offer him 2x pay. They can fire the one who suggested Pryor. I'm sure the Browns could use them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Doctson is easily at least a #2, and next year he will be a #1. They seriously have to at least throw the ball to the guy first. Heck, if Kirk hadnt overthrown him he would have had yet another TD this past week, and that wasnt the ONLY time he beat his guy deep. Seriously, lets reexamine the 7 targets he got last week. He caught 4 of them, good. The 5th he beat his defender badly on the short goalline route, and just slipped. Good job, bad luck, would have been an easy TD. The 6th he beat his defender badly again for a long ball over the middle that Cousins just overthrew him on. Again, good job, would have been an easy TD and a better QB would have made the throw. The 7th and final one was with 2 minutes left, almost another TD, Doctson runs a skinny post, beats his guy by a step, but Cousins throws it behind him and the defender comes up and makes the play. The only 1 of the 7 where Doctson did anything other than what a #1 would have done is play #5 where he slipped, but he beat his defender badly on the play, and its hard to blame a slip on him when its his first. 7 passes, and at least 6 of the 7, probably 7, the defender couldnt cover him. That doesnt count the other times as others have posted where he beat his man badly and Kirk didnt see him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 36 minutes ago, Peregrine said: Again, good job, would have been an easy TD and a better QB would have made the throw. Clearly we need a better QB that doesn't miss throws like that...ever. If we just simply had one of those Doctson would be starting in the Pro Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Peregrine said: Doctson is easily at least a #2, and next year he will be a #1. They seriously have to at least throw the ball to the guy first. Heck, if Kirk hadnt overthrown him he would have had yet another TD this past week, and that wasnt the ONLY time he beat his guy deep. I agree that Doctson/Kirk have left several TDs in the field. Doctson has 3, but he could've had 3-4 more. He would be up there with the league leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Reports that Pryor ruled out... this is odd.. does anyone have any info of how this injury occurred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, OVCChairman said: Reports that Pryor ruled out... this is odd.. does anyone have any info of how this injury occurred? Saw on twitter that Pryor says it happened in week 2 @ Rams game. Made it harder to make his cuts. Could explain why he hasn’t been productive this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Saw on twitter that Pryor says it happened in week 2 @ Rams game. Made it harder to make his cuts. Could explain why he hasn’t been productive this season. Still very odd.. if thats the case, why now? Why after Mo Harris took your spot? Why come out 3 weeks ago apologizing to the fans for not being good enough? Something smell weird here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 The Pryor situation is odd. Browns tried to trade for him too, we knocked them back. Pretty sure his contract has 2mil in LTBE incentives in there, seems to me like we are slowing shutting him down. He has been bang average though, very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, OVCChairman said: Still very odd.. if thats the case, why now? Why after Mo Harris took your spot? Why come out 3 weeks ago apologizing to the fans for not being good enough? Something smell weird here. I'm prone to agree with you here. After it looks like a bad year for him, he suddenly has injuries to explain away his lack of production. Since he is on a one year prove-it type deal, I'm sure he's trying to do everything he can to preserve a modicum of FA interest around the league for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Out? Heh things are going downhill fast with Pryor. In hindsight, we haven't seen him do anything awesome WRT how athletic he is. So yeah he probably is injured, as he certainly didn't look this bad in lowly cleveland with "no QB" facing the top corner almost weekly, and playing for his next contract. Guys get injured and we don't always know, but coaches are wise to rest players so we find out by practice logs and that alone. Why didn't Gruden rest him - that's what smells. Pryor may have just tried to push through it; he certainly seems extremely motivated and driven. What would be really odd is if he went straight to IR yet wasn't even limited in practice while injured spanning 2 months. With Harris confirming he is worthy / signed off by Kirk, maybe it was time to sit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 15 hours ago, RandyHolt said: What would be really odd is if he went straight to IR yet wasn't even limited in practice while injured spanning 2 months. Call me soon, can't find a better deal anywhere, promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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