visionary Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Donald Trump is going to single-handedly increase illegal immigration more than any President in the last 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Edited January 28, 2017 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 These are the symptoms of a man who doesn't know what he's doing at his job. Nice going America. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Not going to lie. Felt a little pain for the good people that this will affect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) I'm seriously starting to doubt the ability of the US to come back from this Presidency unless some of these things are over turned (quickly) in court or by Congress. People that are a net positive economic gain come here with the idea of getting green card. If a US green card is meaningless and can be essentially rendered null and void by the signature of a President in the future people that are capable of coming here and contributing are going to look elsewhere that is more welcoming to immigrants and takes immigration policy seriously. This is going to affect immigration patterns beyond a Trump Presidency, and if it is Muslims today, why can't it be Chinese (maybe we become worried about Chinese spies and national security) or some other group tomorrow. Yes, there are risk, but you don't become great without risks. We don't look like the home of the brave to me. We are looking like the home of the scared and timid to me. On another note, does anybody not think this effort to single out Christians doesn't affect our ability to fight ISIS? It seems like telling Iraqis that we really want their oil, and then telling the many Muslim Iraqis that have helped us over the last decade+ that they don't matter much to us because of their religion doesn't seem like a good way to get their (future) cooperation in fighting ISIS and Islamic extremists. Edited January 28, 2017 by PeterMP 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasCowboyFan156 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) I find myself worrying that this policy could be extended to include other countries that are hostile toward the United States. I and my Chinese wife both live abroad now but we want to move back to America some day. Is Trump going to make it harder for me to get my wife into the country? If I can't get her in then I'd essentially become an outcast from my own country, unable to return home without leaving my wife behind. It pains me to think that there are likely some for who this is already a reality. An American who married a spouse from any of these 7 countries is now in that nightmare scenario. Edited January 28, 2017 by DallasCowboyFan156 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 hour ago, KingGibbs said: Not going to lie. Felt a little pain for the good people that this will affect. How many bad people do you think this will actually affect? Is it beyond ISIS abilities to get a passport from a country not on the list if they want to put someone in the country? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Corcaigh said: How many bad people do you think this will actually affect? Is it beyond ISIS abilities to get a passport from a country not on the list if they want to put someone in the country? More likely they'd just recruit somebody that HAS a passport from one of the countries not on the list (how many of the 9/11 people were Suadis). Though, I think he meant non-ISIS people. Like Iraqis that aren't terrorists that actually want to come to the US. Edited January 28, 2017 by PeterMP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 22 minutes ago, PeterMP said: If a US green card is meaningless and can be essentially rendered null and void by the signature of a President ... The background check for Green Card applicants is the same as for naturalization. If Trump is not OK with green card holders then any naturalized citizens should also be denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 23 minutes ago, DallasCowboyFan156 said: but we want to move back to America some day. I'd keep your options open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 43 minutes ago, PeterMP said: I'm seriously starting to doubt the ability of the US to come back from this Presidency unless some of these things are over turned (quickly) in court or by Congress. We can never surrender the belief that we, as a nation, will come back from this train wreck. In fact, every time he does this kind of **** we must reconfirm our resistance to his madness. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Pig-brained POS (cheerfully extended to his actual enthusiasts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) This is horrible! Bannon is going to make the Monroe Doctrine impracticable at this rate! Edited January 28, 2017 by FanboyOf91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I'm pretty sure an injunction or two on this will come down from District Courts, followed by a flurry of angry tweeting, and eventually it will reach SCOTUS. I'm not the biggest fan of John Roberts, but I think he and Kennedy will do the right thing here. Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 hour ago, DallasCowboyFan156 said: I find myself worrying that this policy could be extended to include other countries that are hostile toward the United States. I and my Chinese wife both live abroad now but we want to move back to America some day. Is Trump going to make it harder for me to get my wife into the country? If I can't get her in then I'd essentially become an outcast from my own country, unable to return home without leaving my wife behind. It pains me to think that there are likely some for who this is already a reality. An American who married a spouse from any of these 7 countries is now in that nightmare scenario. That's interesting, I'm pondering what my next move should be if Sino-American relations become actively hostile and war breaks out. The US is not the place to be right now. I have family in Munich, guess I could hide out there for a bit if **** hits the fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Get pissed at a man for taking a knee during the national because it's unpatriotic, but support closing our borders to immigrants. That's rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Edited January 28, 2017 by FanboyOf91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Those countries will retaliate by possibly blocking Americans from entering their country, but it is not enough. All middle eastern countries need to unite and retaliate, including Saudi Arabia. Pakistan should kick out all Americans. Note: Not trying to cheer against America, but Trump needs to be taught a lesson. He is just a dumbass. Edited January 28, 2017 by redskins59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, redskins59 said: Those countries will retaliate by possibly blocking Americans from entering their country, but it is not enough. Oh no, I'm gonna have to cancel the family vacation to the middle east. Edited January 28, 2017 by jschuck12001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 minute ago, jschuck12001 said: Oh no, I'm gonna have to cancel the family vacation to the middle east. This kills American business over there. Do business in Dubai? Erbil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Just now, jschuck12001 said: Yep, gonna have to cancel the family vacation to the middle east. Pakistan for example is very important when it comes to war against terror. Al Zawahiri (sp?) is still hiding somewhere in Pakistan. So yeah, if Pakistan retaliates in terms of not sharing intelligence info with the United States, it will mean that we will be less safe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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redskins59 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 There is a huge outcry in Mexico right now. The nationalists are calling for boycotting all American goods. The people in the Middle East are angry. Mexico is angry. Western Europe is also angry (Angela Merkel). Only Putin is giddy with joy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 America first baby! we won't be able to travel anywhere, nor do business anywhere nor have anyone to buy our exports 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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